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Should gas drilling be allowed in the reservior watershed?
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golden beetle
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Just be sure to disclose it when you sell the property.
If you don't sell the property, then no big deal I suppose, insofar as the depreciation in value to the property will not be felt by you financially in the short term.
If you don't sell the property, then no big deal I suppose, insofar as the depreciation in value to the property will not be felt by you financially in the short term.
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a part of the full seller's disclosure. Having just read one, I even recall a lengthy clause pertaining to mining, etc. The property I looked at had never been mined so I didn't pay more attention to it after that. I think wells, whether gas or water, have to be disclosed. I also see it along the lines of such info as to whether a property is in a flood zone. All these things come up before the sale closes.
eddavidson9
how's that for a slice of fried gold
Recent NY DEC announcement regarding gas drilling in NY watersheds:
Department of Environmental Conservation blocks drilling for natural gas near city reservoirs
BY Adam Lisberg
DAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU CHIEF
Originally Published:Friday, April 23rd 2010, 6:19 PM
Updated: Saturday, April 24th 2010, 1:12 AM
Related NewsEPA: Too costly to enforce PCB laws, so change 'emCameron: 'Avatar' studio wanted 'tree-hugging crap' cutHigh school students put recycled dresses on the runway for Earth DayThe Closer: Real estate at the movies, trees grow in East Harlem, and moreMolloy: Yes I heard you ... NYC still has a noise problemNew York's water supply got new protection from natural-gas companies Friday after environmental regulators put up a roadblock on drilling near city reservoirs.
Any gas well in the 2,000-square-mile upstate watershed will require a costly and complex environmental review, the Department of Environmental Conservation said.
"We have something that's tantamount to a ban," said Councilman James Gennaro (D-Queens), a geologist. "I just don't think anyone's going to [drill] when there are such better opportunities elsewhere in the state."
Gas companies wanted to use a new technique called "hydrofracking" to pump a chemical stew underground and force out gas from an underground formation called the Marcellus Shale.
"Drilling cannot be permitted in the city's watershed," Mayor Bloomberg said. "The additional reviews now required for any drilling proposal in the watershed will lead the state to that same conclusion."
The DEC hopes to complete a statewide policy for Marcellus hydrofracking later this year, but Friday's decision means the unfiltered reservoirs that feed New York City will be exempted from the statewide rules, as will Syracuse's reservoir.
"To better assure the continued use of an unfiltered surface-water supply, there must be an additional review process which may result in associated regulatory and other controls on drilling," said DEC Commissioner Pete Grannis.
In Pennsylvania, Marcellus drilling has led to an economic boom and new tax revenues - as well as contamination of rivers and drinking water.
Many upstate officials want to see similar development in New York, and say the DEC can adequately protect the environment in the process.
Chesapeake Energy Corp., which holds leases to drill near the reservoirs, has pledged not to do so, saying the amount of gas there is not worth the effort.
"Marcellus is really in our view not especially prospective underneath the watershed," Chesapeake CEO Aubrey McClendon said. "We can do it safely, but the rock quality is not there, and we said we wouldn't, so we won't. And I don't think anybody else will either."
Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer praised the decision, but said the city needs an outright ban to protect its water.
"A complete ban on watershed drilling was the right thing a year ago, it's the right thing today," Stringer said.
Department of Environmental Conservation blocks drilling for natural gas near city reservoirs
BY Adam Lisberg
DAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU CHIEF
Originally Published:Friday, April 23rd 2010, 6:19 PM
Updated: Saturday, April 24th 2010, 1:12 AM
Related NewsEPA: Too costly to enforce PCB laws, so change 'emCameron: 'Avatar' studio wanted 'tree-hugging crap' cutHigh school students put recycled dresses on the runway for Earth DayThe Closer: Real estate at the movies, trees grow in East Harlem, and moreMolloy: Yes I heard you ... NYC still has a noise problemNew York's water supply got new protection from natural-gas companies Friday after environmental regulators put up a roadblock on drilling near city reservoirs.
Any gas well in the 2,000-square-mile upstate watershed will require a costly and complex environmental review, the Department of Environmental Conservation said.
"We have something that's tantamount to a ban," said Councilman James Gennaro (D-Queens), a geologist. "I just don't think anyone's going to [drill] when there are such better opportunities elsewhere in the state."
Gas companies wanted to use a new technique called "hydrofracking" to pump a chemical stew underground and force out gas from an underground formation called the Marcellus Shale.
"Drilling cannot be permitted in the city's watershed," Mayor Bloomberg said. "The additional reviews now required for any drilling proposal in the watershed will lead the state to that same conclusion."
The DEC hopes to complete a statewide policy for Marcellus hydrofracking later this year, but Friday's decision means the unfiltered reservoirs that feed New York City will be exempted from the statewide rules, as will Syracuse's reservoir.
"To better assure the continued use of an unfiltered surface-water supply, there must be an additional review process which may result in associated regulatory and other controls on drilling," said DEC Commissioner Pete Grannis.
In Pennsylvania, Marcellus drilling has led to an economic boom and new tax revenues - as well as contamination of rivers and drinking water.
Many upstate officials want to see similar development in New York, and say the DEC can adequately protect the environment in the process.
Chesapeake Energy Corp., which holds leases to drill near the reservoirs, has pledged not to do so, saying the amount of gas there is not worth the effort.
"Marcellus is really in our view not especially prospective underneath the watershed," Chesapeake CEO Aubrey McClendon said. "We can do it safely, but the rock quality is not there, and we said we wouldn't, so we won't. And I don't think anybody else will either."
Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer praised the decision, but said the city needs an outright ban to protect its water.
"A complete ban on watershed drilling was the right thing a year ago, it's the right thing today," Stringer said.
Kilgour Farms
I took the one less traveled by
To NYC it's never been about the fracing fluid. NYC number one concern has always been soil and errosion control. The city mixes and matches the water from the different reservoirs to meet the FAD. There is alot of turbility in some of the reservoirs as well as TDS which will degrade the quality of the reservoirs.
NYC filtration avoidance determination is on borrowed time and NYC DEP officals know this and will use all their political clout to convince the EPA to extend it, they used most of it the last time, 2007. If NYC uses their political influence for future FAD and not science it will be to the detriment of the people of NYC.
NYC filtration avoidance determination is on borrowed time and NYC DEP officals know this and will use all their political clout to convince the EPA to extend it, they used most of it the last time, 2007. If NYC uses their political influence for future FAD and not science it will be to the detriment of the people of NYC.
catskill dick
New member
I have been reconsidering my position on drilling in the Catskills. The gas and oil companies seem to be pretty certain that it can be done safely, and I don't think that I have been fair in doubting them. Look at off-shore drilling, the gas and oil companies have assured us that it can be done safely and withhout risk to the environment. Its not like they have had any disasters or issues drilling in the gulf or anywhere else. Why should I doubt their claims that they can safely drill in the Catskills? Drill baby drill.
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
Calling for a ban on all oil drilling? Or just in places YOU value?
Get off the jet ski, CD... (and stop cooking, and heating your house, and driving your car, and mowing your lawn and using plastic...)
C'mon...lead the way...show us how it's done...:rofl:
