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Smoky Mountain Fly Fishing Report

MACFLY

Too many streams too little time
Greeting All

Well I have been traveling a great deal since my last post and checking in occasionally but I managed to get some fly fishing in while down in Tennessee a couple of weeks ago. We rented a cabin in the smokies for 3 days on our way back from Nashville. Nashville was great and Opry was a hoot but the Smokies were the highlight of the trip. In any event, I took the opportunity to fish the Little River for half a day while my wife and her parents did some sightseeing. I had read about some excellent fishing in the park for brookies, browns, and rainbows ranging from the small natives up to some 20 plus inch specimens and decided to give it a shot.

Woke up to a sunny day with moderate wind and temps in the 50s. Got to the smoky mountain angler around 8am to pick up some supplies and we headed out to the river (well its really a creek). Water was low and gin clear as you will see from the pictures with water temp around 50 degrees. We were about a week past the prime fall colors and the leaves were falling in earnest but all in all it did not dampen the fishing much. Started with a dry and dropper combo using a BHPT for the dropper and stimulator for the dry. Before we cast a fly, we did some scouting from a rock outcropping of the first pool to see if any Browns were on the spawn. The browns were running a bit late due to the warmer temps and lack of rain. I was surprised to find out that this area gets little snow but a good deal of rain does make up for it. Showers were forecast for the following week but I did spot some redds later on in the day.

Hooked up on my 3rd cast with a 12 inch rainbow that took the dropper. Fished for about another 15 minute and then started trekking upstream fishing all of the likely spots. Had several more bumps on the dropper but the dry was not seeing any action. I finally decided to put on a nice bushy looking caddis and then the fish were interested. These fish were fairly spooky but a decent cast normally invoked a response. Mostly small fish with another 11 inch rainbow and smaller brown rounding out the action. As the sun rose, the breeze picked up but again it didnt hurt the fishing at all. I did not see anyone else on the river other than leaf peepers and hikers. The river is laden with boulders and ledges and more rocks. It was a constant scramble over and around to get a good angle as well as to tuck casts under the ledges where the water eddied up and a good froth line presented itself.

I would have loved to fish this stream all day but alas it was not to be. I packed it up after 4 hours and headed back into town. All in all a good day and a much needed respite from the whirlwind travel I have been doing lately. My impression of the Little River is that it is a top notch creek with a good number of fish. I dont get the impression these fish are picky but in the conditions we saw the fish are easily spooked. It just so happened the initial stretch I fished had placed the sun at my back and this quickly became an issue. Luckily you only need to walk or take a quick drive to get in more suitable surroundings. I almost headed up to higher elevations but the brookies had already spawned and I didnt want to go walking through the redds since apparently they are everywhere.

I would definitely recommend giving this area a try. Besides the Little River, there are dozens of streams to fish and the Tennessee tailwaters are not far away. Some of those streams are holding trout in the 5-20 pound class which I was aware of but never fully appreciated until I drove over these rivers. Its 10 hours in the car to the smokies from where I live but without the family it could go much quicker so I may check this area out again next spring. Enjoy the photos. Hope all is well!!!

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Gorgeous looking stream Macfly. I've gotta get down there sometime soon.

Did you see anything hatching? Did you note the names of any good fly shops?

Thanks for the report.

Cdog
 
Gorgeous looking stream Macfly. I've gotta get down there sometime soon.

Did you see anything hatching? Did you note the names of any good fly shops?

Thanks for the report.

Cdog

Hey CDOG

The Shops in the area were the Smoky Mountain Angler and Smoky Mountain Outfitters. There is a web site that goes into good details on the streams to fish. The cabin I stayed in was excellent and very reasonable. It had 3 rooms and i would rent it again in a heartbeat. Im thinking about a spring trip myself and I was told April and May are great but the stream fishes well March thru November. Winter is good but not prime. Sporadic Caddis and some olives. The stream is loaded with baitfish but I never did swing a bugger through some of the holes where it would have made sense.
 
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Thanks again for the info and the pics. The Smokies look amazing, and it seems like the fishing is really good there. I'm definitely looking into a backcountry camping/hiking/fishing trip through the area sometime soon. Hopefully this spring break I can swing it, though I am guessing it'll be kinda cold up in the mountains in March so it might have to wait. What's the url of the website you mentioned?
 
Thanks for that report. Maybe 10 years ago I took a trip down there in May. I hiked up the Little River Valley to were it hits the "spine of time" and camped on the river for 2 days. It was a blast. One of the best Trout fishing trips I've ever been on.

Went back a few years ago with my family and even though I didn't get much fishing in I did sneak away one day and did OK for July.

Beautiful country! I love the southern Appalachian mountains in the spring time.
 
Great choice to take that opportunity to fish the Smokies. The streams in the park are all good, especially if you hike away from the roads & parking lots some. Intricate planning isn't a necessity to still encounter wonderful wilderness trout fishing. Of course a little planning makes for a better trip.

Last year I was taking a trip to Charlotte to visit a buddy. I was checking out the same website as mentioned and some others & just decided at the last minute to leave in the middle of the night a full day early and instead of southeast thru NC to Charlotte I headed west to Bryson City, NC and Smoky Mtn Nat'l Park. Found clean, cheap lodging right on the Tuckasegee. In a whirlwind day and half I fished the Tuck, Deep Creek, and 2 other streams mush better luck on the creeks in the park than on the Tuck) for an abundance of brook, brown, and rainbow trout. Most were small and spooky but if you were careful they hit aggressively. The best fish was a gorgeous 14" Rainbow the first evening. Just about any fly with yellow in it tends to work well, Bushy Yellow Mr. Rapidans worked well as a dry.

I was amazed, I didn't plan it out at all. Just picked a spot on the map after some research and said "what the heck." Now I'm jonesing to get back for a planned trip into one of the drainages for several days of wilderness trout fishing. Reports like yours strengthen that desire, thanks.
 
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SMNP Greenbrier... typical section looking at 7 plunge pools.

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Too funny.. just texted my buddy in Nashville about 20 min ago to plan a Smokies trip in April, then I come on here and read this post. I was in Nashville over the summer honky tonking, but didnt get out on the water. This spring that will be my only priority, as we're going to do some camping this time around. Thanks for the report.
 
Re: Smoky Mountain Fly Fishing Report (More Pics)

I figured I might as well post the rest of these pictures. On the picture thats looking upstream with the sun coming thru and a slight haze showing there were 2 redds with a pair of browns on each doing there thing. The water in most areas is ideal for spawning. Enjoy
 

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Couldn't recall them all earlier but the four streams I "blitzed" were Deep Creek, Noland Creek both within the park, I also fished the big Tuckasegee River "tailwater" section as well as a mountain stream-type section of the Nantahala River within the nearby national forest. I didn't like the Tuck much although it has large trout. The Nantahala was really nice for such an accessible stream. I fished it the first night I arrived as the sun was going down. There were 5 other anglers on this little stretch and we all were nailing little rainbows. I got one bigger 'bow I measured at just a hair under 14", three other anglers said that was the fish of the day! It was by far the biggest fish I wound up catching. In hindsight I really wish I had just picked either Deep Creek or Noland Creek and just explored one of them all day. Deep Creek is one of the better brown trout streams in the park. Noland Creek was chock full of little, aggressive Rainbows.
 
I know where that third photo was taken on the
East Prong of the Little River, GSMNP.

I actually sat there and had lunch on May 1st of this year.

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The other photo was taken looking up stream,
my photo was shot looking down stream.

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Just a bit up stream of those two pictures the
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Easy access to the Little River. It is reported to
be the most fished stream in the park, easy of access
and good pools.

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There is a small community that the US Park Service
took over when the last resident passed away. They
are still trying to figure out what to do with all the
homes and community center.

Really interesting to walk around and go inside the building.
 
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They
are still trying to figure out what to do with all the
homes and community center.


Let's draft a proposal for the National Parks Service: NEFF members agree to contribute volunteer labor NPS in conservation efforts (trail maintenance, fish stocking etc) within the park in exchange for the right to use these homes. make it an informal timeshare for like minded organizations to host events. Annual NEFF retreat in the Smokies boys and girls?

no idea if that would work but I'd happily spend christmas break writing up a proposal if there's enough support.
 
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the right to use these homes.

They might just go for the idea.

We could ALL BAND TOGETHER and do this.. together!

Raise some capital, improve the homes, develop the area, everyone doing their fair share and part. It would be wonderful.. NEFF family outings would be planned and well attended.

It would be so-so wonderful.... just thinking about it.....

Then, after we all work hard, develop the area, improve the homes, then DC might get a wild hair across his ass and drop NEFF for good.

We would be homeless, he wouldn't give a rats-ass about the people here at NEFF, because someone may have disagreed with him on a TU issue or something as trivial as that.

Then, someone from a salt water fishing board would want us all to give the property over to them, because DC did us dirty.

Which thinking about as I write this, WOULD BE the RIGHT THING TO DO!

Yeah.. we build it up with our time and labour and just have DC trash it for no good reason. We should give it up to the salt water guys...

But thats just my idea of fair play and doing what is right for the entire board.

As always, DOING the RIGHT Thing all the TIME!

AK Skim
Future Chairman, NEFF Turn the Community over to the Salty Dudes.
 
Hey Negative Nancy stop ruining my utopian dreams! :guns:

I can address your concerns - there'd be plenty of legal ways to structure an agreement to protect those of us who have a tendency to ruffle feathers and draw the ire of other members of the community. :sneaky: But it's not really worth spending a lot of time on unless we're actually looking into this as a possibility (plus I should be paying attention in class).

Are these buildings the structures in Cades Cove by any chance?
 
Maybe we can settle this in the inaugural wrestling match as we implement Catskill Mountain Man's proposal for NEFF dispute resolution. :D

Or we can meet up one day for a fish-off.

Seriously though, are we talking about the buildings in Cades Cove?
 
Oh man this is becoming much more than I can take. For most of today I've pretty much been unable to think about much of anything else but flyfishing the Smokies. I just got home and ran right up stairs and turned the computer on just to read and daydream some more!

First thing I'm going to do is start putting more $ per month into my "flyfishing trips" savings account! I'd love to make respective annual trips to the Upper Connecticut River-NH, the Adirondacks, and the Great Smokey Mountains Nat'l Park.

It can have its lonely moments but man am I glad I chose to remain single and a trout bum. :D
 
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Oh man this is becoming much more than I can take. For most of today I've pretty much been unable to think about much of anything else but flyfishing the Smokies. I just got home and ran right up stairs and turned the computer on just to read and daydream some more!

Here come the NIGHTMARES!!!!!!!!

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Oh man this is becoming much more than I can take. For most of today I've pretty much been unable to think about much of anything else but flyfishing the Smokies. I just got home and ran right up stairs and turned the computer on just to read and daydream some more!

First thing I'm going to do is start putting more $ per month into my "flyfishing trips" savings account! I'd love to make respective annual trips to the Upper Connecticut River-NH, the Adirondacks, and the Great Smokey Mountains Nat'l Park.

It can have its lonely moments but man am I glad I chose to remain single and a trout bum. :D

Hey Ryan

Im thinking the first NEFF jamboree should be held in Gatlingburg next spring. We stayed at the cabins on this website and they were awesome but very reasonably priced and close to the fishing. Dennis will have to print up some SEFF hats for the occasion.

Gatlinburg Cabins in Gatlinburg TN - A Luxury Cabin Rentals Resort
 
Oh man, I can hardly take looking at those photos AK. Macfly- Gatlinburg sounds good, those cabins looked gorgeous. In Bryson City on the NC side I stayed at, I believe it's called Riverbend Motor Lodge, for $39/night for a nice room with a deck and grill overlooking the Tuckasegee.

I'd love to try hiking into one of the drainages to camp and fish. Maybe catch a boat ride across Fontana Lake to hike into fish Eagle or Hazel Creeks or over on the TN side up into one of the prongs. The anglers I met in the short time I was there all said the best way to fish the park is to hike in several miles and start fishing one of the remote creek drainages over several days.
 
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Oh man, I can hardly take looking at those photos AK. Macfly- Gatlinburg sounds good, those cabins looked gorgeous. In Bryson City on the NC side I stayed at, I believe it's called Riverbend Motor Lodge, for $39/night for a nice room with a deck and grill overlooking the Tuckasegee.

I'd love to try hiking into one of the drainages to camp and fish. Maybe catch a boat ride across Fontana Lake to hike into fish Eagle or Hazel Creeks or over on the TN side up into one of the prongs. The anglers I met in the short time I was there all said the best way to fish the park is to hike in several miles and start fishing one of the remote creek drainages over several days.

This is true however the bears like to camp and hike as well and they dont take kindly to people camping in their tents....Its the whole Goldy Locks Syndrome thing.:sneaky: Oh welll you dont have to run fast...just faster than the guy next to you!!!!
 
Ryan's

Nightmare in the Smokies II

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If you look up stream and in the centre you will
see my friend standing there.

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AK, beautiful small streams there. Do they recieve much pressure, and are the fish wild?
 
This is true however the bears like to camp and hike as well and they dont take kindly to people camping in their tents....Its the whole Goldy Locks Syndrome thing.:sneaky: Oh welll you dont have to run fast...just faster than the guy next to you!!!!

Eh, but it wouldn't be true wilderness trout fishing without the possibility of encountering bears. You just have to follow the rules of bear country and be prepared as much as you can (bear spray is the strongest deterrent you can carry in the park.) And if worse comes to worse, at 6'2" 180lbs I'm pretty confident I won't be among the slowest. :D
 
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AK, beautiful small streams there. Do they recieve much pressure, and are the fish wild?

Early spring and fall the streams only see fisherman.

The summer, the streams are inundated with tourists riding their tubes down the streams...

I have only been there twice, end of April, Mid-May so I have seen few people fishing to speak of. There are enough open water and streams where you can fish all day and see no other. But those streams are not along side the roadway.

NEFF member's Beeber, and Mike Rodolfino have been down there. Beeber stays in cabins, and Mike I believe camps, so people have two other's to ask questions of GSMNP accommodations.

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Me, I just drag my home along behind me.

Streams above 2,500 foot elevation support wild Bookies, and that is just a short drive up any mountain. I forget what the elevation of Gatlinburg is, but you will realize it is not close to see level when you boil water a lot faster than you are use to.

In 2007 the park opened up streams that have been closed to fishing since the mid-1970's. So there are some very good spots that people just haven't been to in a long time.

Also in 2007 the experienced a severe drought, the Brook and Brown Trout survived ok, but the larger Rainbow Trout really took a beating.

BRK TRT the type of streams and fish you like catch, the GSMNP should be your #1 destination. You might not leave..... there is a real danger in that!

I am not sure, but I don't think inside the park they stock. The City of Gatlinburg does stock (I believe) the Little Pigeon River as it flows out of the park into Tenn. and they charge for a city fishing license to fish that section. I don't know why anyone would ever consider doing it? The stream runs through down town and it is a concrete canyon. When you can drive less than 5 minutes and be on one of the most beautiful streams you might ever see.

BRK TRT I am sorry to say I am not heading down there this year. Last year I planned on two friends going down with me for a week, but as it happened, I was the only one able to make it. Had an open bunk available and should have put the word out, but it came on such short notice.

I attempted to attach a very good map of the park that you can zoom in on areas, but was unable to do so. PM me your e-mail and I will send the pdf file off to you.

AK Skim
 
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AK, beautiful small streams there. Do they recieve much pressure, and are the fish wild?

Yes, the trout in the park are all wild, it is not stocked (although at one time it was thus all the little wild rainbows and browns(some quite large) along with the southern Appalachian brookies. Check out the website mentioned earlier, Fly Fishing the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Click on "streams" at the top of the home page and you can check out descriptions and overviews of streams in several of the drainages. It's neatly broken down into streams from the Tennessee side and those from the North Carolina side of the park. Browsing this site will give you a better idea of what fishing the park is all about.

Some streams are more popular than others but hiking in a few miles on most brings solitude. Hazel Creek is one of the most popular backcountry streams in the park. The park has over 700 miles of streams and although it sees a ton of visitors, angling pressure doesn't seem to be much of a problem. The heaviest pressure is near the campgrounds, parking lots or road crossings (also where most of the swimming and tubing is.) I was there on the Thursday and Friday of Memorial Day. The Deep Creek campground was packed! Despite that, after only walking the trail for a half mile I fished Deep Creek alone and only saw 2 other anglers hiking in. Same with Noland Creek. Every angler I spoke with said it's pretty easy to get away from the crowd if you're just willing to walk a bit. It sure seemed true.

It is definitely a difficult place to have to leave.
 
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the North Carolina side of the park.

2007 we went over to the NC side of the park and fished the Straight Fork.

If you check out my GSMNP reports you will read that stream is perhaps one of the finest streams that NO ONE hardly fishes.
 
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