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What trout water is fishable right now from NYC?
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mob201
Joe's Hopper
What are the sunnies for? Target practice or bait? Never bow-fished so I have no clue...
lightenup
A fan of Boobery
Sorry..... I guess I wasn't clear...he can bowfish.......as I will be chunking sunnies for catfish....although maiming them and using them for target practice sounds like some fun...
Neversink has a steady conservation release like the East Branch, so if you go far enough upstream you can find cool water. It is kind of small and flat up there. The Neversink USGS station at Bridgeville has a temperature gauge so you can see the temperature of the lower Neversink without taking a trip.
The Mongaup can be good and has a great population of wild fish. However, the releases are odd and hard to predict and the reservoir isn't very big so it can get warm in a hot spell. In this regard it is like the Lehigh. The Rio Dam is a power dam run by an investment company and they generate when the price of electricity goes above a certain strike price to maximize profits from limited storage. Only scheduled releases are the whitewater releases. FEW dam on the upper Lehigh is a flood control dam so it is purposely left at low pool to allow it to fill in a flood event. That plus the whitewater releases limits the cold water, but misc groups are working to change that. It could be a major tailwater if managed more for fishing. It was built after the disastrous 1955 Hurricane Dianne flooding and five decades went by without another major flood so the voices of the fishing community had more credence IMHO. The last decade has seen record floods in the Delaware Valley again, so flood control advocates still hold a lot of power.
Of course nearby is a short ice cold tailwater: the Pohopco below Beltzville Dam. Not well known outside the area, but the locals can sure crowd it. Another short oddball tailwater is the Wanaque below Wanaque Res. Not many fish and it is hard to learn. On the upside when the state electroshocked a few years ago a good number of wild browns in the 20" + range were found. They are not easy to catch, but you have a shot at a real trophy there. Number of oddball tailwaters, like MC in NJ create local fishing opportunities.
That said, I spent two days this week on the Delaware for smallies and one trout fishing at the Pequest. Probably caught more trout per hour, but the biggest smallies were caught sight fishing and they fought 20X harder than the summer time trout. Think I will focus more on smallies (and my annual perch hike) until the water cools.
The Mongaup can be good and has a great population of wild fish. However, the releases are odd and hard to predict and the reservoir isn't very big so it can get warm in a hot spell. In this regard it is like the Lehigh. The Rio Dam is a power dam run by an investment company and they generate when the price of electricity goes above a certain strike price to maximize profits from limited storage. Only scheduled releases are the whitewater releases. FEW dam on the upper Lehigh is a flood control dam so it is purposely left at low pool to allow it to fill in a flood event. That plus the whitewater releases limits the cold water, but misc groups are working to change that. It could be a major tailwater if managed more for fishing. It was built after the disastrous 1955 Hurricane Dianne flooding and five decades went by without another major flood so the voices of the fishing community had more credence IMHO. The last decade has seen record floods in the Delaware Valley again, so flood control advocates still hold a lot of power.
Of course nearby is a short ice cold tailwater: the Pohopco below Beltzville Dam. Not well known outside the area, but the locals can sure crowd it. Another short oddball tailwater is the Wanaque below Wanaque Res. Not many fish and it is hard to learn. On the upside when the state electroshocked a few years ago a good number of wild browns in the 20" + range were found. They are not easy to catch, but you have a shot at a real trophy there. Number of oddball tailwaters, like MC in NJ create local fishing opportunities.
That said, I spent two days this week on the Delaware for smallies and one trout fishing at the Pequest. Probably caught more trout per hour, but the biggest smallies were caught sight fishing and they fought 20X harder than the summer time trout. Think I will focus more on smallies (and my annual perch hike) until the water cools.
jack1266
Just finished a River Runs Through it!
Here is today's report copied from The Beaverkill Angler . It should give you an idea of what to expect - [h=1]The Catskill Fly Fishing Report[/h]
Monday, July 22, 2013
8:11 AM
[h=3]Beaverkill River, Willowemoc Creek and the Delaware River system.[/h]
We had some light rain falling around Roscoe this morning, and although it helped make the air temperatures feel nice it was not enough to help the rivers. With a little luck some of the scattered storms predicted for the area will hit us. We are still advising people to stay off the freestones until water levels come up a bit...they heat up quickly right now. NOTE: The Ball's Eddy Access on the WB is now reported to be open.
REMINDER: The Beaverkill River between the bridges at Horton is now closed to fishing until September 1st. This is a thermal refuge for trout. Pay attention to water temperatures as you fish, if they top 70 degrees move on to different water. Mortality increases greatly at high temperatures due to a lack of oxygen in the water, and even though a trout may initially swim away it will often times expire. [h=3]There is no such thing as catch and release fishing when water temperatures climb into the 70s.[/h]
SPRING HOURS: We are now open 7 days a week from 8:00am - 5:00pm.
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Monday, July 22, 2013
8:11 AM
[h=3]Beaverkill River, Willowemoc Creek and the Delaware River system.[/h]
We had some light rain falling around Roscoe this morning, and although it helped make the air temperatures feel nice it was not enough to help the rivers. With a little luck some of the scattered storms predicted for the area will hit us. We are still advising people to stay off the freestones until water levels come up a bit...they heat up quickly right now. NOTE: The Ball's Eddy Access on the WB is now reported to be open.
REMINDER: The Beaverkill River between the bridges at Horton is now closed to fishing until September 1st. This is a thermal refuge for trout. Pay attention to water temperatures as you fish, if they top 70 degrees move on to different water. Mortality increases greatly at high temperatures due to a lack of oxygen in the water, and even though a trout may initially swim away it will often times expire. [h=3]There is no such thing as catch and release fishing when water temperatures climb into the 70s.[/h]
SPRING HOURS: We are now open 7 days a week from 8:00am - 5:00pm.
| RIVER | FLOW | WATER TEMPERATURE | USGS DATA LINK |
| BEAVERKILL RIVER (at Cook's Falls) | 127 | 68° * | BEAVERKILL RIVER |
| WILLOWEMOC CREEK (no gauge) | 76* | 68° * | NO GAUGE AVAILABLE |
| EAST BRANCH, DELAWARE RIVER (at Harvard) | 203 | 59° | EAST BRANCH, DELAWARE RIVER |
| WEST BRANCH, DELAWARE RIVER (at Hale Eddy) | 664 | 47° | WEST BRANCH, DELAWARE RIVER |
| DELAWARE RIVER (at Lordsville) | 1,210 | 74° | DELAWARE RIVER |
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Randyflycaster
New member
Boyd's Corner's should be running cold. Please practice catch-and-release.
Randy
Randy
dcabarle
Administrator
...and they go on the menu as what??? Not Catfish! Probably Mahi or Swordfish! Those snobs probably couldn't tell the difference anyway... Just marinate them in salt water for a few hours.Get the old spinning rod out and go catfishin' on the Delaware.....they are BIG, and mean....We chunk for them with cut sunnies.....Bring a book, music, beverage, food, a towel..............you never know when you're gonna need a towel........ your wife, kids, whatever........a remote control, your dog, this chair.......whatever makes you happy.......lots of fun, and it keeps you in touch with your inner redneck as well.......
dcabarle
Administrator
The Little Lehigh in PA is an option.
lightenup
A fan of Boobery
The Filet-o-fish sandwich of course......would you like a hot apple pie with that???
P.S. actually we do serve catfish at lunch, but I would never serve that lower Delaware mercury infested parasite bomb.....they swim away a little sore lipped, but that is all....
Thanks. Looks like a fun little stream and under 2 hours from the city. How crowded does it get?
thrashers.wheat
New member
PA limestoners near Harrisburg were in good shape earlier this week. No pics to post. I'll save that for the August trip.
Beautiful, wild trout around every corner. Very neat to spot, observe, approach and cast to a fish feeding in between weed beds. Ants and beetles were the choice on top. Tan scud / sowbug imitations were the ticket subsurface. Hare's Ear dubbed loosely on a scud hook to the bead, scud backing pulled over top with wire reinforcement. Alternatively, wrap floss on scud hook. If you go the floss route you may not want to use scud back. When not using scud back, use a light, neutral colored floss. Then, take a sharpie marker and make a strip of color on top the fly. A brown, pink, orange, yellow, etc. sharpie to make a mohawk look on the floss. Once done reinforcing the floss with wire, use a razor to 'pick out' legs in between the wire ridges. This is neat looking and not too much more time consuming.
Camping in the Tuscarora SF, up a three square hollow rd from the valley, was awesome and free. Quite primitive campsite with a pit and table.
Beautiful, wild trout around every corner. Very neat to spot, observe, approach and cast to a fish feeding in between weed beds. Ants and beetles were the choice on top. Tan scud / sowbug imitations were the ticket subsurface. Hare's Ear dubbed loosely on a scud hook to the bead, scud backing pulled over top with wire reinforcement. Alternatively, wrap floss on scud hook. If you go the floss route you may not want to use scud back. When not using scud back, use a light, neutral colored floss. Then, take a sharpie marker and make a strip of color on top the fly. A brown, pink, orange, yellow, etc. sharpie to make a mohawk look on the floss. Once done reinforcing the floss with wire, use a razor to 'pick out' legs in between the wire ridges. This is neat looking and not too much more time consuming.
Camping in the Tuscarora SF, up a three square hollow rd from the valley, was awesome and free. Quite primitive campsite with a pit and table.
trico mike
make mine wild
Lhv limestoners are good now. Yesterday morning it was58 . I was cold with only shorts under my waders and the light shirt I was wearing didn't cut it with the breeze that was blowing. The tricos came late but the hatch was super heavy and the fish willing. Water never got over 62 for the day.
Philthy Phil
more fish than posts
Very crowded...There is a big draw of FFers and it gets heavy spin pressure as well... weekdays are your best bet
CTobias
Professional BS'r
You could always move to Alaska and live in Anchorage if the city is your thing. Out here they let you drink as big of a soda as you want, and the people running for mayor don't send pics of their genitals to everyone.
CTobias
Professional BS'r
It was a self documentary. Also, she was Governor, not mayor.
Rusty Spinner
Active member
That's only because it's so damned cold all year that the mayor can't find his genitals to take a picture of:crap:
Found myself on Pole Road beside Fir Brook. Beautiful little stream. Low water but 64F by my thermometer. Brook trout were jumping midday, so I guess the temp didn't bother them that much. Spooky as hell. Saw them darting from the road when I passed a good 10' away.
Is this creek best in the spring? How heavy is the runoff?
Is this creek best in the spring? How heavy is the runoff?
