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What trout water is fishable right now from NYC?
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Rusty Spinner
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I would think the Long Island streams are cool enough. They're closer, no? Connetquot and the others I can't recall the names of.
Rusty Spinner
Active member
No, just do a quick search here on the Connetquot and you'll find thousands of posts about it. It is a cold stream that holds trout year round. It had a private hatchery on it that made the stream Trout Disney for decades, but they found IPN (a fish-born disease) in it and shut it down for a 5 year period. It still gets stocked, but from other hatcheries. It doesn't hold nearly the same number of fish, but it is still a viable fishery and not nearly as often sought out as before the hatchery was closed for 5 years. There are 2 more (I think it's 2) wild trout streams on the Island. I've never fished any of them, but I know they exist.
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
They're called smallmouth bass. They're not as glamorous as trout, but they're in the water that's too warm for trout right now. And they fight better too. Otherwise you can go spend a day on a tail water somewhere and hope it turns on in that last hour of daylight.
mob201
Joe's Hopper
Catching smallies on streamers from a riffle in the mainstem is pretty enjoyable - maybe more fun than catching largemouth from a pond?
As for trout water, you've gotten all the answers you're going to get. Nobody's being cagey with you - the tailwaters (mostly right before dark), the PA limestoners and the L.I. spring creeks are basically the only streams that stay cold within a couple of hours drive from NYC. And I imagine the Connetquot and the other Long Island creeks might be pretty choked with weeds at this point.
Honestly, nobody has a right to expect to catch trout near New York City in the middle of a late-July heat wave. I hear Montana and Wyoming fish well in mid-summer, but as far as local waters go, we're all pretty much biding our time till September.
As for trout water, you've gotten all the answers you're going to get. Nobody's being cagey with you - the tailwaters (mostly right before dark), the PA limestoners and the L.I. spring creeks are basically the only streams that stay cold within a couple of hours drive from NYC. And I imagine the Connetquot and the other Long Island creeks might be pretty choked with weeds at this point.
Honestly, nobody has a right to expect to catch trout near New York City in the middle of a late-July heat wave. I hear Montana and Wyoming fish well in mid-summer, but as far as local waters go, we're all pretty much biding our time till September.
lightenup
A fan of Boobery
Get the old spinning rod out and go catfishin' on the Delaware.....they are BIG, and mean....We chunk for them with cut sunnies.....Bring a book, music, beverage, food, a towel..............you never know when you're gonna need a towel........ your wife, kids, whatever........a remote control, your dog, this chair.......whatever makes you happy.......lots of fun, and it keeps you in touch with your inner redneck as well.......
Randyflycaster
New member
The Titicus and the East Branch of the Croton by Brewster. Both are tailwaters and stay cool all summer long.
Randy
Randy
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
Not to beat a dead horse, but have you ever caught a river smallmouth? They are not like largemouth. I like trout, but catching a summer smallie is more entertaining than catching a 10" thermally stressed pecker out of some local wild trout stream. Otherwise drive to a tail water or lime stoner and wait till 8pm at night when things actually start happening. Sorry, but your going to have to actually get in your car and drive your ass 3-4hrs and hike to catch a non thermally stressed trout.
Oliver10
Profishional Cupcake
I gather you are in NYC you could try taking 80 out the the Pequest. The hatchery out flow prvides maybe 100 yards of fishable cold water. It will probably be a zoo though. I would rather not fish than stand there with tons of other people. If you went early on a weekday you may get it mostly to yourself.
mob201
Joe's Hopper
Oops... I have clearly bunched your panties, sir, with my unnecessarily harsh verbiage.
How's this: "Nobody should expect to catch trout near New York City in the middle of a late-July heat wave." I guess it does bear repeating: not really the best time of year to target trout locally. Channel your inner redneck, like Lightenup and Trout Nazi are suggesting.
Anybody tried sight-fishing for carp on the Delaware? Worth the effort?
Heard the the heat was pretty much keeping everything down. Maybe worth trying at 5:30 am or getting the headlamp out at the end of the day. Thanks.
Yes. Just not my thing.
I'm really just looking for "where" more than "what's easy." Can hit the delaware in reasonable time, but I figure guys are lining up there. Croton seems out. Neversink?
Thanks, but I've been there and done that. Not terrible fun dropping flies on top of hatchery fish ganged up under a spillway.
Are you using "sir" like a taxi dispatcher does? Well done. Can we just save 10 pages of back and forth bullshit and meet at the wb delaware and fight/drink our way down to some smallmouth water like John Wayne and Victor McLaglen in The Quiet Man?
Rusty Spinner
Active member
thrashers.wheat
New member
Lefty,
You seem like a douche. It is certainly reflective of our society as a whole, but as a newbie to the forum you seem to have no shame in asking for help before you contribute, on any significant or intelligent level, in any way. You basically entered with your hands out and your palms up and then acted poorly once people chimed in with what they were willing to give you. I just suppose you're selective with the freebies you apparently feel entitled to.
You then state that you have a cabin, which I assume is a second or third residence you're fortunate enough to own, and scoff at others advice of targeting bass. I've fished NJ waters since I was a little kid riding my bike to the sbr and there has always been a lull period in July & August. Call me a mere wading mortal, but that is what I was subjected to and have always made the best of it. I was not fortunate enough to grow up with the rocky mtn front in my extended backyard. I suppose what I'm trying to get at here is that you, an apparent out-of-towner, are asking locals for advice during a period when most locals are getting their fishing kicks elsewhere from the trout stream. The only advice I could think of is to just respect the resource, wherever you decide to go.
You seem like a douche. It is certainly reflective of our society as a whole, but as a newbie to the forum you seem to have no shame in asking for help before you contribute, on any significant or intelligent level, in any way. You basically entered with your hands out and your palms up and then acted poorly once people chimed in with what they were willing to give you. I just suppose you're selective with the freebies you apparently feel entitled to.
You then state that you have a cabin, which I assume is a second or third residence you're fortunate enough to own, and scoff at others advice of targeting bass. I've fished NJ waters since I was a little kid riding my bike to the sbr and there has always been a lull period in July & August. Call me a mere wading mortal, but that is what I was subjected to and have always made the best of it. I was not fortunate enough to grow up with the rocky mtn front in my extended backyard. I suppose what I'm trying to get at here is that you, an apparent out-of-towner, are asking locals for advice during a period when most locals are getting their fishing kicks elsewhere from the trout stream. The only advice I could think of is to just respect the resource, wherever you decide to go.
I vote for smallmouth (or largemouth, sunnies, yellow perch, muskies, pickerel, stripers or another warm water species). On one hand I can see the fish for trout at all cost view, but the why not fish for the most active and sporting fish of the moment has more weight for me these days. NJ has a lot a fishing options; why not go for variety? NJ is on the edge of trout range and is not generally productive in the summer.
Delaware has been OK for smallies this week. Can catch a handful, but not on fire. The Delaware is absolutely full of very large, very healthy looking carp this year - the most I can remember in 50+ years of fishing the big D. That said, I have never caught a carp on the fly in the Delaware. I have only caught carp with a fly when I can target actively feeding or "mudding" carp - which typically occurs in smaller bodies of water and not the Delaware. People mention the "mulberry hatch" and the Phillipsburg water front (P,burg has a lot of mulberry trees left over from the old silk industry) certainly has it (it is over though for 2013). But oddly enough it has mostly produced channel cats for me. If you can find feeding carp in the Delaware it will certainly be a blast because there are loads of fish in the 20 lbs class around.
Delaware has been OK for smallies this week. Can catch a handful, but not on fire. The Delaware is absolutely full of very large, very healthy looking carp this year - the most I can remember in 50+ years of fishing the big D. That said, I have never caught a carp on the fly in the Delaware. I have only caught carp with a fly when I can target actively feeding or "mudding" carp - which typically occurs in smaller bodies of water and not the Delaware. People mention the "mulberry hatch" and the Phillipsburg water front (P,burg has a lot of mulberry trees left over from the old silk industry) certainly has it (it is over though for 2013). But oddly enough it has mostly produced channel cats for me. If you can find feeding carp in the Delaware it will certainly be a blast because there are loads of fish in the 20 lbs class around.
lightenup
A fan of Boobery
Thrashers..I don't know how old you are, but we may have parked our bikes at the same places growing up....Mine was at the iron bridge in Clinton a lot...We would fish and swim off the mill wall all year long..run across the bottom of the dam and such.....when your 10, you really don't know about thermal stress, at least I didn't.....
I'm more of an asshole than a douchebag. There's a distinct difference to us assholes. In fact, we don't even let the douchebags know where our monthly meetings are.
I asked a simple question and received some good responses and a few that didn't apply. So, I did what I was hoping to - initiate conversation about a relevant topic. The forum did what it was designed to do - provide answers and further the conversation. Everyone wins!
I'm sorry if I didn't provide a long super-excited introduction, but it's not 1999 and we don't follow forum 1.0 rules any longer.
About warmwater suggestions, it's just not for me. Neither is salt. My interest is tricking tout and I would rather spend 6 hours standing in the cold waiting for a trout to rise then 30 minutes catching bass. If the answer to the original question is "nothing is fishable for trout right now" then so be it. I'll hang up my waders for a few months. But thanks to few PMs I may head out to a spring creek or tailwater for a day or so.
Anyway, I thought this was The Drake light. Was I misinformed?
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Rusty Spinner
Active member
No, that's about correct. Good luck whatever you decide. Tomorrow begins a big rain and cooler temps as the front moves through which can only help get us back toward some trout fishing. Most years I would say we're done until the 4th week in August at the earliest, but you never know. If we have enough cold groundwater expressing into our streams, we might fish again sooner. Right now, even the smallies, largemouth and others are too hot to feed well. That will all change in another day for those targeting non-trout.
In the meantime, it might just be time to buy that bow-fishing line and reel attachment with the proper arrow and target some carp to freeze for bear bait this fall.
Thanks, RS. I don't think the trout are the only ones looking forward to a cool rain.
Question about the Neversink and the Mongaup - do these operate as normal tailwaters? Consistent cool releases? Or are they hot and skinny now?
Believe or not I used to bow fish at my CENSORED.
Question about the Neversink and the Mongaup - do these operate as normal tailwaters? Consistent cool releases? Or are they hot and skinny now?
Believe or not I used to bow fish at my CENSORED.
lightenup
A fan of Boobery
I knew there was an inner redneck somewhere in there.......We will be on the Jersey side of the Delaware on Monday morning.......by Finesville......look for the 4RUNNER and the White rusty Ford pick-up along the train tracks............then walk down the path..yell lightenup, and bring your bow..we saw a small mouth last week in excess of 8 pounds.......we will be gone by 1:00....
Anyone else is welcome to come..PM me!!! Bring some live sunnies!!!!!
Rusty Spinner
Active member
I don't fish them, so I'm not the right person to ask. But further up the big D will be just fine. By next week, lots more water will be fishable given the predicted weather and rains. Probably not NJ freestones, but other waters will be.
Rusty Spinner
Active member
It rivals the Ausable in NY for tough wading from what I know of it. Like walking on greased bowling balls.
