Big_Spinner
Trout Hunter
Hi guys,
A couple of good suggestions before things got out of control.
Hi Jim
Why not 325 CFS FROM 6/1-6/14
750 CFS From 6/15 - 8/14
325 CFS 8/15 - 8/31
This is an interesting suggestion. This uses 10,000 more cfs days than the current plan. There are several other options for the use of this water. Perhaps the vaunted 600 cfs from June 1 to Aug 31 and this would leave an extra 900 cfs for use on really hot days.
There are several other permutations that could be tested.
I am not sure that 325 would work all that well, but it is worth a test. Don't forget we already have 400 in May, so a drop to 325 seems counter productive somehow.
For some readers -The 325 CFS comes from the Shepard Study done years ago, Norm Mcbride from Region 4 (DEC) also backed up this number I believe. It says that 325 CFS will provide thermal protection for the trout, bank to bank the entire length.
The Sheppard report does talk about 325 and later personal communications with Doug Sheppard indicated he felt this was the minimum needed to keep the river bottom wet. The NY DEC/PA F&B White Paper went a step further and suggested the 525 cfs that we are close to today.
I do not believe that anyone has given up on the Thermal Relief plan. It was not accepted in the recently approved new version of the FFMP. It took 3 years for the powers to approve FFMP after it was first proposed, so we are on schedule!!
Here is the other suggestion that has some merit:
The current release of 140 in the summer on the East Branch is not adequate sometimes in the summer. Although I lobbied for a summer release of 190 cfs (this is what was sometimes needed under Rev 7 to keep the EB cool). I always hoped that there would be enough release from Pepacton to achieve a similar situation at the junction of the Beaverkill that the 500 release from the WB creates at the EB/WB junction. Essentially a cool plume that reaches down into the East Branch below the Beaverkill. My guess is that a release of perhaps 225 to 250 would accomplish this cool plume refuge on the East Branch.
Any other suggestions?
I have always said that I will answer reasonable questions, so keep it normal. Rants will not be tolerated and I will just go back underground for a few months. Although, some of you may prefer that!!!
Jim
A couple of good suggestions before things got out of control.
Hi Jim
Why not 325 CFS FROM 6/1-6/14
750 CFS From 6/15 - 8/14
325 CFS 8/15 - 8/31
This is an interesting suggestion. This uses 10,000 more cfs days than the current plan. There are several other options for the use of this water. Perhaps the vaunted 600 cfs from June 1 to Aug 31 and this would leave an extra 900 cfs for use on really hot days.
There are several other permutations that could be tested.
I am not sure that 325 would work all that well, but it is worth a test. Don't forget we already have 400 in May, so a drop to 325 seems counter productive somehow.
For some readers -The 325 CFS comes from the Shepard Study done years ago, Norm Mcbride from Region 4 (DEC) also backed up this number I believe. It says that 325 CFS will provide thermal protection for the trout, bank to bank the entire length.
The Sheppard report does talk about 325 and later personal communications with Doug Sheppard indicated he felt this was the minimum needed to keep the river bottom wet. The NY DEC/PA F&B White Paper went a step further and suggested the 525 cfs that we are close to today.
I do not believe that anyone has given up on the Thermal Relief plan. It was not accepted in the recently approved new version of the FFMP. It took 3 years for the powers to approve FFMP after it was first proposed, so we are on schedule!!
Here is the other suggestion that has some merit:
The current release of 140 in the summer on the East Branch is not adequate sometimes in the summer. Although I lobbied for a summer release of 190 cfs (this is what was sometimes needed under Rev 7 to keep the EB cool). I always hoped that there would be enough release from Pepacton to achieve a similar situation at the junction of the Beaverkill that the 500 release from the WB creates at the EB/WB junction. Essentially a cool plume that reaches down into the East Branch below the Beaverkill. My guess is that a release of perhaps 225 to 250 would accomplish this cool plume refuge on the East Branch.
Any other suggestions?
I have always said that I will answer reasonable questions, so keep it normal. Rants will not be tolerated and I will just go back underground for a few months. Although, some of you may prefer that!!!
Jim