Switzerland & Germany

[Simms]

Hi Guys,

I am headed to Switzerland and Germany for work next week and was wondering if its worth bringing the fly rod?

I heard the streams feeding Lake Constance (Im going to be in the Konstanz area) are LOADEDDDD with trout, but I am unsure what they look like this time of year.

Any help would be appreciated thank you!

Best,

Chris

 

[Trout Nazi]

Hi Guys,

I am headed to Switzerland and Germany for work next week and was wondering if its worth bringing the fly rod?

I heard the streams feeding Lake Constance (Im going to be in the Konstanz area) are LOADEDDDD with trout, but I am unsure what they look like this time of year.

Any help would be appreciated thank you!

Best,

Chris

Leave the fishing shit, bring the ski shit. Trout fishing season is closed in Switzerland, opens again in March. Bring your ski boots, gloves, and googles, rent the rest. How often you get to ski the Swiss Alps bro?

 

[emoussa]

I agree with TN

 

[Rusty Spinner]

If you could fish in Switzerland for trout, you would legally have to kill your catch. Catch and release is actually against the law in that country. That's F-ed up! Light TN said, bring your ski gear.

 

[Catskill Mountain Man]

Check out the Matterhorn if possible

I recently took my first trip to Europe and got over my fear of flying over the atlantic; and this was one of the first real sights we saw.

Even from a distance it's astounding

 

[Trouser Trout]

Maybe you can sing the Horst Wessel song at a German Karaoke club. With hopes of inspiring the masses to once again rise up and relive their glorious past.

 

[FIN-ITE 34]

Maybe you can sing the Horst Wessel song at a German Karaoke club. With hopes of inspiring the masses to once again rise up and relive their glorious past.

I'd go with "Hitler, he only has one ball, Goering has two, but they are very small. Himmler is very similar, and Goebbels has no balls at all." See if that don't buy you a boot of beer.

 

[Simms]

Thank you guys!

Ill see what I can do about the skiis. I'll only have a few hours each day to my self. I may extend if it comes to it so I can ski on Sat or Sun.

Thank you again.

DAS BOOT

 

[Trout Nazi]

Check out the Matterhorn if possible

I recently took my first trip to Europe and got over my fear of flying over the atlantic; and this was one of the first real sights we saw.

Even from a distance it's astounding

The best way to see the Matterhorn is to ski in Zermatt, which is epic. However, this is on the exact opposite side of the country from where Simms will be.

 

[Trout Nazi]

Thank you guys! Ill see what I can do about the skiis. I'll only have a few hours each day to my self. I may extend if it comes to it so I can ski on Sat or Sun. Thank you again. DAS BOOT

Extend and go to Innsbruck, like 8-9 ski areas there. Some decent back country as well. Skied there a couple of times, you'll like, rent some fat skis.

 

[Pete]

Unless you're going to be there for a while, getting a German fishing license, may be a problem...

See: Taking my German Fishing License - fishinggermanys jimdo page!

 

[CTobias]

It's very hard to get a fishing license in Germany. There is a special sportsman class you have to take, and I have been told the process is almost a year long.

[h=5]The Fishing Licence (Fischereischein)[/h]The fishing licence (Fischereischein) is obtained on completion of the Sportfisherprüfung (sport fishing exam). The fishing exam normally takes place once or twice a year, at different times depending on federal state.
To get a licence:

• Apply to a fishing club (Angelverein) to find out when lessons and exams take place
• 30-40 hours supervised fishing lessons must be taken before the exam (lessons normally take place over 4 to 5 weekends. Information on dates and instruction is usually available from local fishing clubs and shops)

The exam tests the knowledge of:

• Different types of fish
• Fish biology and habitats
• Fishing equipment and its uses
• Treatment of catch
• Different types of waters (lakes, rivers, seas)
• Relevant legislation on fish, animal and nature protection

On successful completion of the sport fishing exam, the fishing club will issue a pass certificate which can be exchanged at the local town hall (Bezirksamt) for an official fishing licence. The pass certificate from the exam is valid for life, but the actual fishing licence has a validity of one or five years. The licence can be renewed for a fee.
[h=4]Tourist and temporary licences[/h]Tourists and visitors may also apply for a tourist fishing licence from a fishing club. This should be arranged before travelling to Germany so that time is allowed to arrange dates and instructors for the tourist fishing exam. The process is similar, but the licence is issued directly on completion of the exam and is valid for a limited time period only. Tourist fishing licences are valid for one week, two weeks or one month.
Recently, due to the large number of tourists wanting to fish in Germany, several federal states have abolished the licence requirements altogether. At present, in the former Eastern German states, Brandenburg and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, anglers need only buy a fishing permit to fish.
Note: When fishing, failure to produce a fishing licence to the respective authorities (marine police, forest officials and so on) may lead to huge fines. The reason is that more than one law is being broken (nature protection, theft, animal cruelty, and others).

 

[emoussa]

It's very hard to get a fishing license in Germany. There is a special sportsman class you have to take, and I have been told the process is almost a year long.

The Fishing Licence (Fischereischein)

The fishing licence (Fischereischein) is obtained on completion of the Sportfisherprüfung (sport fishing exam). The fishing exam normally takes place once or twice a year, at different times depending on federal state.
To get a licence:

• Apply to a fishing club (Angelverein) to find out when lessons and exams take place
• 30-40 hours supervised fishing lessons must be taken before the exam (lessons normally take place over 4 to 5 weekends. Information on dates and instruction is usually available from local fishing clubs and shops)

The exam tests the knowledge of:

• Different types of fish
• Fish biology and habitats
• Fishing equipment and its uses
• Treatment of catch
• Different types of waters (lakes, rivers, seas)
• Relevant legislation on fish, animal and nature protection

On successful completion of the sport fishing exam, the fishing club will issue a pass certificate which can be exchanged at the local town hall (Bezirksamt) for an official fishing licence. The pass certificate from the exam is valid for life, but the actual fishing licence has a validity of one or five years. The licence can be renewed for a fee.
Tourist and temporary licences

Tourists and visitors may also apply for a tourist fishing licence from a fishing club. This should be arranged before travelling to Germany so that time is allowed to arrange dates and instructors for the tourist fishing exam. The process is similar, but the licence is issued directly on completion of the exam and is valid for a limited time period only. Tourist fishing licences are valid for one week, two weeks or one month.
Recently, due to the large number of tourists wanting to fish in Germany, several federal states have abolished the licence requirements altogether. At present, in the former Eastern German states, Brandenburg and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, anglers need only buy a fishing permit to fish.
Note: When fishing, failure to produce a fishing licence to the respective authorities (marine police, forest officials and so on) may lead to huge fines. The reason is that more than one law is being broken (nature protection, theft, animal cruelty, and others).

As uptight and German as that seems, I sort of like the concept.

I think a little bit of education in terms of fish ID, fish handling, regulations, ect would improve the state of our fisheries here.

 

[Simms]

so this is bad?

 

[MACFLY]

As uptight and German as that seems, I sort of like the concept.

I think a little bit of education in terms of fish ID, fish handling, regulations, ect would improve the state of our fisheries here.

Ha most peopwl dont have 5 hours vs 5 weeks to spend on something like this. Kind of crazy

 

[emoussa]

Ha most peopwl dont have 5 hours vs 5 weeks to spend on something like this. Kind of crazy

Doesnt need to be that intense at all. Maybe just fill out a workbook one time or something like that. I dont think it would be alot to ask someone to read a page or two of information.

Hunter education is much more involved than that and it seems to work for them.

 

[Trout Nazi]

Doesnt need to be that intense at all. Maybe just fill out a workbook one time or something like that. I dont think it would be alot to ask someone to read a page or two of information.

Hunter education is much more involved than that and it seems to work for them.

Yea, but I don't see this stopping the fish netting that happens under the 287 bridge on the Pequannock, or any of the other blatant acts of poaching and stupidity. Makes sense for hunting though because its more about firearms safety and what not to shoot (people).

 

[jmoore]

You do not have to take a course to get a tourist license. I have been there twice in the past three years, and fished near Siegsdorf, in the foothills of the Alps. You need to go to a Rathaus (town hall) and buy the license. You will need to show them your passport, your US fishing license, and you'll need a passport photo for them to apply to the license.

You will also need to buy a permit to fish a specific section of water. These usually come from a club or a shop. If you are in a lake area, one of the businesses on the lake may sell them. I ate at a restaurant that provided them at Hintersee. Unfortunately I didn't know they were available and I didn't take my gear with me that day. I got to hike around the lake and watch huge browns gulp Green Drakes, without me being able to stick a single one of them.

The biggest problem I had was that the Rathaus employees didn't understand what I was asking for because they didn't issue them very often. Luckily I had done my research and had a work colleague to help translate.

Check out Rudi Heger's site: Rudi Heger - Fliegenfischen | Home - Rudi Heger - Faszination Fliegenfischen. Give them a call if you need help. They speak English and were very helpful to me. They also have a document that explains how to get the tourist license. http://www.rudiheger.eu/media/pdf/german-fishing-license.pdf. I think Rudi is pretty well known in Germany. He may even be able to tell you of a shop or outfitter near where you are going.

 

[MACFLY]

Doesnt need to be that intense at all. Maybe just fill out a workbook one time or something like that. I dont think it would be alot to ask someone to read a page or two of information.

Hunter education is much more involved than that and it seems to work for them.

I don't think it's a useful comparison honestly. What is it we hope to achieve with such a program? We have a compendium of fishing regulations that people get with their license. I can see the value of an education program but mandatory I would not agree with. Are we going to seriously not allow folks to fish if they don't pass a test. Sounds unamerican

 

[Pete]

........... Sounds unamerican

That's because it's not America.
Not so long ago, they had a Kaiser....

When I was stationed there in the '60s, you needed a government official to vouch for you.
Fortunately, they allowed US Military officers to vouch for American troops and their dependents.

I signed for the Sergeant Major's son (who I never met), I got a Lt. Col to sign for me. The post Rod & Gun club leased some nearby waters and issued permits to members.

I understand that nowadays USAREUR is sponsoring English Language courses and tests for the troops.

 

[Trout Nazi]

I think if you are within a 2 hour drive of Innsbruck, in the winter, and you fish instead of ski, you're a dope. You can drown a nymph for trout in the winter here.