MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
Somebody should shoot the other soon don't y'all think? Take it easy friends, off to check out a Scadden 2-man I might buy.
2 man..that means you can take on passengers. Sign me up
Give us a try!
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Gasland-the documentary
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2 man..that means you can take on passengers. Sign me up
Kilgour Farms
I took the one less traveled by
If you believe everything in Gasland to be true, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
Hollywood at its finest.
Hollywood at its finest.
2 man..that means you can take on passengers. Sign me up
Wow, I'm developing a list already. We (my old man & I split the cost) bought it last night. We're getting the trailer registered in PA now and will pick it up by week's end. In doing some research and in looking at the frame pieces I'm pretty sure it can be made into a 3-man just by adding another frame piece. I think that's how Scadden design's it. I'm pretty psyched to use it, that's for sure. Hey Comparadun, here's another stink 'toon coming your way!
Joe D
Registered User
Never quite understood that... is the bridge in Brooklyn or Manhattan?
Anyway, if just one thing is true...
:beer:
And if you believe everything the drilling companies are telling you to be true I've got a oil well in the gulf to sell you!
Rusty Spinner
Active member
Never quite understood that... is the bridge in Brooklyn or Manhattan?
Anyway, if just one thing is true...
:beer:
And another thing - don't they have a huge toll on this bridge making it a money maker? Just saying...might not be such a bad buy
BIGBOW
Wilderness Fanatic
That would have been a good one about 2 months ago, but I spoke to BP CEO Tony Hayward 7 weeks ago and he said the issue was being resolved. Its gotta be fixed by now, especially since he's yacht racing in Europe!! Mark that one as taken care of :thumb:
Agust
Resident TU Rat Bastard
If you believe everything in Gasland was false, then you probably already bought the bridge with gas lease money and are trying to turn a profit.
Trying to justify your greed by saying that there is little or no risk, when there are literally hundreds of examples of failure is just pathetic. Just admit you don't really give a crap about the water and just want the cash. At least that is honest.
Agust
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
This coming from the guy who lied in this post:
".........after all the drilling companies and FF have promised us it's safe."
Hilarious...
Now remember... you said " ...but since I do not value your opinion at all, who gives a shit what you think."
Agust
Resident TU Rat Bastard
So let me get this straight, you think drilling for gas is unsafe but want to do it anyway? That either makes you a fool or a tool, neither of which makes you a person who others listen too.
Interesting that you find the threat of catastrophic lose of the Delaware River Hilarious, most of us are concerned or scared.
Agust
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
Your attempt to boil whether or not gas drilling is safe into a sentence or two is ridiculous.
I can't promise that driving a car is safe. I don't want to ban that. You drive a car. Are you a fool? Tens of thousands of people die every year due to cars. Doesn't that make them less safe than gas drilling...
By your logic of who to listen to, every one who drives a car is incompetent to speak...
BIGBOW
Wilderness Fanatic
Apples to oranges my friend. When the bossman says I can ride my horse to work and let it crap outside the building all day, I'll leave my truck at home. Until then, a car is a necessity for most of us who need it to make a living somewhere. Im not happy about the emissions and pollution they cause, but theres no way around them at this point in time. There is a way around drilling in the Catskills.. go do it somewhere else. The Catskills have within it 700,000 acres of NY Forest Preserve. This land is susceptible to all the negative possibilities involved in drilling on private or public land. I've been told that the landowners living in the Catskills are the true stewards of the land and it should ultimately be their decision what to do on this issue. Thats BS if you ask me. Why should a bunch of people who can benefit from drilling be making such biased decisions that can destroy a preserved ecosystem outside private land? The only people arguing for drilling on these threads are those with something to gain, whether its from lease money or somehow helping their industry. The rest of us simply enjoy the beauty of the Catskills and would hate to see their allure disappear because of selfish "stewards." You can argue pro drilling all you want want, but it just shows the rest of us where nature stands on your list of importances. For many, it gives us our sanity and piece of mind and is not worth the risk/reward ratio.
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
No. You, my friend, make choices. You could live within walking or biking or public transportation distance from your job. For most, that choice would suck. SO in order for you to live where you CHOOSE to AND make the MONEY you WANT to, you need a vehicle to get you from one place to the other. Life would be so less convenient without a vehicle. You weigh the risks (40,000 vehicle related deaths each year in the US (and untold temporary and permanent injuries) ) and choose to drive or ride in one. You choose to transport you kids and pets around in them. Me too. We don't let a threat of an accident stop us from living our lives the way we want to. Would you have a problem if there was a proposed ban on people like us owning a vehicle because there will be accidents and people WILL DIE?
EVERYONE has an idea of what place is important to him. Who chooses then whose nirvana is exposed to possible risks? We love the Catskills. Someone else might love the desert or the gulf coast, or Alaska or Nebraska. Again, who chooses where to drill?
You may think it is BS, but in the NYC Water shed, who owns most of the land that FOR DECADES has kept your trout happy with relatively clean water?
Who pays the taxes? Who, for the most part, keeps the land "less" developed. Do you think that they WANT their land to be sullied?
You say that people who might have something to gain should not make the decision... Should people who MIGHT have something to lose make the decision? Let the decision be based on science. Gas drilling should be treated EXACTLY how any other business with dire risks is treated.
Just because one has something to gain does not mean that their arguments are not valid. Base the arguments on facts.
"Selfish Stewards"... looking to make some money on their investment... I guess they could sell their land to developers when the time comes when they can't pay the bills... that would be ok? Maybe the Catskills will look like western Jersey where farmers were forced to sell due to tax increases... Just realize that most of these people when they get their money, are going to spend it too. It's not just the landowners that will reap the financial benefits. The money will go a long way in helping these communities support themslves.
Think of it as a redistribution of wealth. Downstaters burn the gas and pay the gas companies and in turn the gas companies will give the landowners that downstate money for the gas they will then sell to downstaters. Think of it as repayment for all the years of clean water upstaters have provided and will continue to provide.
You couldn't be more wrong. Nature is right up there on my list. It is why I live where I live and it is why I will stay here forever. Every morning I wake up here(see below). I've lived on this property 30 years. It's never once been logged in that time(not that I'm against the practice) and I've not had to sub divide and sell. I'm open to gas drilling, but I belong to a coalition of other folks who have devised a lease(with attorneys familiar with the practices of the drilling companies) that includes MANY protections that are NOT included on company leases to better the chances it be done the RIGHT way. Gas drilling WILL COME(because you people continue to burn it) and the coalition wants to ensure that our lands are protected as much as possible.
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BIGBOW
Wilderness Fanatic
Im lucky to have a job in this economy nevermind working where I want and not having to drive there. I wish that wasnt the case, but its out of my hands. Anyway, money walks for most people and although you have a great spread and love the outdoors, I still think you're just selling out or you'd be against anything that could ruin that great vista of yours, even if the risk is "slim." Just my opinion.
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MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
No. You, my friend, make choices. You could live within walking or biking or public transportation distance from your job. For most, that choice would suck. SO in order for you to live where you CHOOSE to AND make the MONEY you WANT to, you need a vehicle to get you from one place to the other. Life would be so less convenient without a vehicle. You weigh the risks (40,000 vehicle related deaths each year in the US (and untold temporary and permanent injuries) ) and choose to drive or ride in one. You choose to transport you kids and pets around in them. Me too. We don't let a threat of an accident stop us from living our lives the way we want to. Would you have a problem if there was a proposed ban on people like us owning a vehicle because there will be accidents and people WILL DIE?
EVERYONE has an idea of what place is important to him. Who chooses then whose nirvana is exposed to possible risks? We love the Catskills. Someone else might love the desert or the gulf coast, or Alaska or Nebraska. Again, who chooses where to drill?
You may think it is BS, but in the NYC Water shed, who owns most of the land that FOR DECADES has kept your trout happy with relatively clean water?
Who pays the taxes? Who, for the most part, keeps the land "less" developed. Do you think that they WANT their land to be sullied?
You say that people who might have something to gain should not make the decision... Should people who MIGHT have something to lose make the decision? Let the decision be based on science. Gas drilling should be treated EXACTLY how any other business with dire risks is treated.
Just because one has something to gain does not mean that their arguments are not valid. Base the arguments on facts.
"Selfish Stewards"... looking to make some money on their investment... I guess they could sell their land to developers when the time comes when they can't pay the bills... that would be ok? Maybe the Catskills will look like western Jersey where farmers were forced to sell due to tax increases... Just realize that most of these people when they get their money, are going to spend it too. It's not just the landowners that will reap the financial benefits. The money will go a long way in helping these communities support themslves.
Think of it as a redistribution of wealth. Downstaters burn the gas and pay the gas companies and in turn the gas companies will give the landowners that downstate money for the gas they will then sell to downstaters. Think of it as repayment for all the years of clean water upstaters have provided and will continue to provide.
You couldn't be more wrong. Nature is right up there on my list. It is why I live where I live and it is why I will stay here forever. Every morning I wake up here(see below). I've lived on this property 30 years. It's never once been logged in that time(not that I'm against the practice) and I've not had to sub divide and sell. I'm open to gas drilling, but I belong to a coalition of other folks who have devised a lease(with attorneys familiar with the practices of the drilling companies) that includes MANY protections that are NOT included on company leases to better the chances it be done the RIGHT way. Gas drilling WILL COME(because you people continue to burn it) and the coalition wants to ensure that our lands are protected as much as possible.[/QUOTE
Hey John I am interested to know which law firm you used. I have a friend that is looking to do the same thing up in Northeast PA. He has about 1400 acres of land. I think this kind of approach is very innovative and done correctly can go a long way to protect the natural resources even when government enforcement seems to be lacking...Now about that sub division
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
...Now about that sub division
You should ask DC to advertise a few of the lots for "your friend"; (wink, wink;nod, nod) on this website. It seems that might be successful. If not, we have some real estate guys who would be happy to help you out with your, I mean his, project.
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
I'd be "selling out" if I truly felt that damage was likely. But no matter what one does with his holdings of nature, someone will think he is a "sell out".
If I log the land, fertilize a field, hunt bambi, build a home or even put in a lawn, SOMEBODY will believe I'm screwing Mother Nature.
eddavidson9
how's that for a slice of fried gold
yes, many of us are very fortunate, but that is a huge cop-out. i'm sure any of us could lead a much lower impact life with a simple realignment of priorities. we (myself included) are just not ready to make such a leap yet.
BIGBOW
Wilderness Fanatic
Cop-out? How so? Im a NJ state employee. If you've heard anything about the jobs and cuts made by our governor in state jobs, you'd know where Im coming from. I have a 20 min commute which Im more than content with. If I could work closer, I would. I've watched MANY coworkers pack it up with the layoffs. Between my vegan old lady, my hunting to fill the freezer, our heating soley with wood, and our organic garden, Im not sure how much greener I can get this day in age, but I guess theres always room for more change. I dont think Im copping out in any way though. The job is to pay the mortgage. I know everyone can live their life the way they feel fit and I do not look down upon their choices in anyway, BUT when their choices involve gas drilling that can "possibly" affect a vulnerable nature preserve I feel like voicing an opinion (and that's all it really is, no hard feelings).
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BIGBOW
Wilderness Fanatic
Those are some bleak comparisons to gas drilling my friend. You seem to miss that entire point. Drilling has a much larger downside, period.
eddavidson9
how's that for a slice of fried gold
BB - nothing personal when i say realign priorities and cop-out. your response is perfectly valid considering your priorities, which are in line with mainstream american society. it's a cop-out because we prefer to live this way, we dont "need" to. we don't "need" a mortgage, a high paying job, our kids to go to college. we definitely dont "need" that car. you're willing to take the steps, within your comfort zone, to be green, which is great. imagine where we would be if everyone redefined their comfort zone. back in the stone age. wouldn't that be great?
BIGBOW
Wilderness Fanatic
I hear what you're saying, but disagree in at least one aspect. Where would one live if they didn't own a house or property (without the government kicking them out). A place to live is def a necessity in my book and order to have that these days, you need a job to pay for it. Those days are gone where one could build a hermitage and not get bothered by big brother. Even the homeless camps that continually pop up eventually get shut down.
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
One observation to make aside from the disagreement over drilling but in fact very much related to the need for energy production. There is a perception that becoming more conscious of how much you use energy requires draconian measures that will make you uncomfortable. Everyone that is interested should check out a book by Ed Begley called living like Ed. Very enlightening book and the reality is that you can take many steps to conserve energy, water, and the environment that have little to no impact on your daily life. This reply is not aimed at any one person. Its been said before but bears repeating..our demand for energy and the concern about global warming as well as concerns about foreign Oil impacting our Foreign Policy directly drives the need for cleaner, renewable, domestically produced energy and hence natural gas exploration and development is part of that answer. While Natural Gas is not renewable it is abundant locally and generally much cleaner than Oil. This is a public service message.. I now return you to your regular program
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
You can't possibly be telling us all to buy a BOOK... Think of all those trees, Macfly! Is it out for the Amazon Kindle? Wait a minute...mountain top coal removal for the electricity and that damn cellular radiation killing off the bees...
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
You can't possibly be telling us all to buy a BOOK... Think of all those trees, Macfly! Is it out for the Amazon Kindle? Wait a minute...mountain top coal removal for the electricity and that damn cellular radiation killing off the bees...
OK go to the library and read it but make sure you walk
Kilgour Farms
I took the one less traveled by
Heres an article that Mr. Fox sould have read before his flim was released, not that it would have mattered with his agenda.
Hancock Herald, Hancock, NY
Local Water Well Driller offers insight into Marcellus shale drilling Process
2-10-2010
by Sally Zegers
Francis Tully of Poyntelle, Pa., a well driller for most of his life, weighed in recently on drilling for natural gas in the area, based on what he calls the science of the drilling process.
The Tully Drilling Company was started in 1928, by his father, Ben Tully. The elder Tully had been a Ford dealer in the area, during the era when new cars arrived in boxes by train, and the dealers put them together. “Dad excelled with people,” he says.
According to Francis, his father bought a brand new Ford truck and drove it to Ohio to have a drill rig mounted on it. The engine ran both the truck and then the drill rig, once the truck’s back wheels were hoisted off the ground. The Tullys, father Ben and sons Francis and Tom, were in the water well drilling business.
“It was a good business,” Francis said. He learned it from the ground up, literally, after being put to work after graduation in 1942.
He says he tried in vain to enter the Army, turned down seven times because of a large and distinctive hemangioma, or blood cyst, on his lower lip. “The doctors were afraid I’d get hit there and it would bleed heavily,” he says now. “I tried to tell them no one was getting that close to me.”
He returned home and his father “put me to work.” It was easy to learn everything about the process because Ben Tully “didn’t believe in doing a lot of hiring,” and Francis had to run five machines. At that time, he says, it took one to two weeks to drill a water well. With today’s technology, a well can be drilled in a few hours.
Tully Drilling was a major and well respected business in Wayne County for several decades, serving farmers and small businesspeople across the area. “Dad worked with all the farmers. Farmers’ credit was always good,” he says. He recalls his father getting a dozen Rhode Island Reds as partial payment on one job. Unfortunately, he forgot he already had a fighting rooster in the coop, and the family ate a lot of chicken for a while.
Over the years, according to Francis Tully, the company drilled 10,000 wells across several counties and two states, and he still has the files to prove it.
He says the phenomenon of “fracture zone seepage” is relatively common in Susquehanna and Wayne Counties and drillers often found natural gas while drilling for water. The internet features several videos of people “flaring” matches at water faucets in Susquehanna County, which is cited as evidence that gas drilling is damaging private water wells. However, drillers fifty years ago often found that they could flare matches at the faucets. According to Francis Tully, near Clifford, in Susquehanna County, “nearly every well in the area” has natural gas.
The gas is so much deeper underground that it’s under much higher pressure, and is forced up into the level that holds the water, he says. He expects the Equinunk area to be a hot spot for gas, based on his experience drilling wells.
The phenomenon occurs mainly on land near streams and the river. In New York State, he reports, when gas was encountered, it was a 50-50 split between natural gas or sulphur. “You had to be careful not to drill too deeply,” he said, “or you’d get sulphur.”
If you did drill too deep and got sulphur water, you had to plug that well and get the water from a more shallow spot in the drilled hole. To do that, he says, drillers took a piece of wood, and put a staple on top of it. They would cover the wood with burlap and put it down the well, below the spot where they wanted it, then yank it up with great force, lodging the wood at the spot where they wanted the well to be plugged. Then they poured concrete on top of the wooden plug.
Over the years he has encountered almost every situation possible in drilling water wells, from finding gas and even oil, and finding nothing - not even water. He drilled four wells on one property before he struck water for the homeowner. Being hired to find water, he points out, means you have to find water, meaning he only charged the homeowner for the one successful well, and ate the rest of the cost.
Tully Drilling also did a lot of business in Scranton, closing off old mines, and trying to put out mine fires. He’s proud of his family’s work in completely extinguishing one mine fire, a rare occurrence. He admits that it took 99,000 yards of sand, but they got it done.
He worked with geologists over the years, and “picked their brains,” picking up a lot of information on geology. He invented a drill that also takes core samples while drilling, and received a patent on it.
According to Francis Tully, the photographs he’s seen of the well that blew up in Dimock, Pa. on New Year’s Day 2009 lead him to believe that the tank itself blew up. He believes the switch froze in the on position, and it couldn’t switch off, allowing pressure to build and build until the tank blew apart. “Tanks do blow up,” he says, noting that he’s seen it happen many times over the 60 plus years he was in the business. A ccording to him, one tank came up through the floor of a living room, hit the ceiling and ended up on the divan. Fortunately, he says, the homeowner was out of the house at the time, which sounds like a classic understatement.
He believes drilling for natural gas should be “perfectly safe” as long the drillers use three layers of pipe, using surface casing down to 1,000 feet, then drilling 7,600 feet to the Marcellus Shale. Then you case it again and grout it.
The level at which water is found is relatively shallow. Drillers will bore through it with boreholes encased in steel and concrete, to protect the water supply, Tully points out. The Marcellus Shale is more than a mile underground.
The different levels of rock and shale in the earth are like “pages in a book,” he says. He points out that the layers of rock protect the water in the upper level. Fracturing, something water drillers have done for years with dynamite, only fractures the rock close to the well, not the thousands of feet above it.
He has traveled out to Titusville, Pa., to see the original site of oil drilling, and notes that there are “no tar paper shacks” in that area. “They’re prosperous,” he points out.
He considers the entire development of gas drilling an exciting topic. “I wish I was twenty years younger. I’d be drilling,” he says.
He sold the building that housed the business about two years ago, and retired, albeit reluctantly, but still travels around to drilling sites and talks with the men behind the machines. “I don’t have a college degree, so I’m an unpaid consultant,” he smiles.
He regrets junking the first Ford truck that Ben Tully used to start the business, but has accumulated few other regrets over a lifetime of work. Following the flood of 2006, many local wells in the area were underwater, but because of the materials used and the attention to detail, none of the Tully wells was contaminated. He is quietly proud that his reputation, and that of his family, is secure.
Hancock Herald, Hancock, NY
Local Water Well Driller offers insight into Marcellus shale drilling Process
2-10-2010
by Sally Zegers
Francis Tully of Poyntelle, Pa., a well driller for most of his life, weighed in recently on drilling for natural gas in the area, based on what he calls the science of the drilling process.
The Tully Drilling Company was started in 1928, by his father, Ben Tully. The elder Tully had been a Ford dealer in the area, during the era when new cars arrived in boxes by train, and the dealers put them together. “Dad excelled with people,” he says.
According to Francis, his father bought a brand new Ford truck and drove it to Ohio to have a drill rig mounted on it. The engine ran both the truck and then the drill rig, once the truck’s back wheels were hoisted off the ground. The Tullys, father Ben and sons Francis and Tom, were in the water well drilling business.
“It was a good business,” Francis said. He learned it from the ground up, literally, after being put to work after graduation in 1942.
He says he tried in vain to enter the Army, turned down seven times because of a large and distinctive hemangioma, or blood cyst, on his lower lip. “The doctors were afraid I’d get hit there and it would bleed heavily,” he says now. “I tried to tell them no one was getting that close to me.”
He returned home and his father “put me to work.” It was easy to learn everything about the process because Ben Tully “didn’t believe in doing a lot of hiring,” and Francis had to run five machines. At that time, he says, it took one to two weeks to drill a water well. With today’s technology, a well can be drilled in a few hours.
Tully Drilling was a major and well respected business in Wayne County for several decades, serving farmers and small businesspeople across the area. “Dad worked with all the farmers. Farmers’ credit was always good,” he says. He recalls his father getting a dozen Rhode Island Reds as partial payment on one job. Unfortunately, he forgot he already had a fighting rooster in the coop, and the family ate a lot of chicken for a while.
Over the years, according to Francis Tully, the company drilled 10,000 wells across several counties and two states, and he still has the files to prove it.
He says the phenomenon of “fracture zone seepage” is relatively common in Susquehanna and Wayne Counties and drillers often found natural gas while drilling for water. The internet features several videos of people “flaring” matches at water faucets in Susquehanna County, which is cited as evidence that gas drilling is damaging private water wells. However, drillers fifty years ago often found that they could flare matches at the faucets. According to Francis Tully, near Clifford, in Susquehanna County, “nearly every well in the area” has natural gas.
The gas is so much deeper underground that it’s under much higher pressure, and is forced up into the level that holds the water, he says. He expects the Equinunk area to be a hot spot for gas, based on his experience drilling wells.
The phenomenon occurs mainly on land near streams and the river. In New York State, he reports, when gas was encountered, it was a 50-50 split between natural gas or sulphur. “You had to be careful not to drill too deeply,” he said, “or you’d get sulphur.”
If you did drill too deep and got sulphur water, you had to plug that well and get the water from a more shallow spot in the drilled hole. To do that, he says, drillers took a piece of wood, and put a staple on top of it. They would cover the wood with burlap and put it down the well, below the spot where they wanted it, then yank it up with great force, lodging the wood at the spot where they wanted the well to be plugged. Then they poured concrete on top of the wooden plug.
Over the years he has encountered almost every situation possible in drilling water wells, from finding gas and even oil, and finding nothing - not even water. He drilled four wells on one property before he struck water for the homeowner. Being hired to find water, he points out, means you have to find water, meaning he only charged the homeowner for the one successful well, and ate the rest of the cost.
Tully Drilling also did a lot of business in Scranton, closing off old mines, and trying to put out mine fires. He’s proud of his family’s work in completely extinguishing one mine fire, a rare occurrence. He admits that it took 99,000 yards of sand, but they got it done.
He worked with geologists over the years, and “picked their brains,” picking up a lot of information on geology. He invented a drill that also takes core samples while drilling, and received a patent on it.
According to Francis Tully, the photographs he’s seen of the well that blew up in Dimock, Pa. on New Year’s Day 2009 lead him to believe that the tank itself blew up. He believes the switch froze in the on position, and it couldn’t switch off, allowing pressure to build and build until the tank blew apart. “Tanks do blow up,” he says, noting that he’s seen it happen many times over the 60 plus years he was in the business. A ccording to him, one tank came up through the floor of a living room, hit the ceiling and ended up on the divan. Fortunately, he says, the homeowner was out of the house at the time, which sounds like a classic understatement.
He believes drilling for natural gas should be “perfectly safe” as long the drillers use three layers of pipe, using surface casing down to 1,000 feet, then drilling 7,600 feet to the Marcellus Shale. Then you case it again and grout it.
The level at which water is found is relatively shallow. Drillers will bore through it with boreholes encased in steel and concrete, to protect the water supply, Tully points out. The Marcellus Shale is more than a mile underground.
The different levels of rock and shale in the earth are like “pages in a book,” he says. He points out that the layers of rock protect the water in the upper level. Fracturing, something water drillers have done for years with dynamite, only fractures the rock close to the well, not the thousands of feet above it.
He has traveled out to Titusville, Pa., to see the original site of oil drilling, and notes that there are “no tar paper shacks” in that area. “They’re prosperous,” he points out.
He considers the entire development of gas drilling an exciting topic. “I wish I was twenty years younger. I’d be drilling,” he says.
He sold the building that housed the business about two years ago, and retired, albeit reluctantly, but still travels around to drilling sites and talks with the men behind the machines. “I don’t have a college degree, so I’m an unpaid consultant,” he smiles.
He regrets junking the first Ford truck that Ben Tully used to start the business, but has accumulated few other regrets over a lifetime of work. Following the flood of 2006, many local wells in the area were underwater, but because of the materials used and the attention to detail, none of the Tully wells was contaminated. He is quietly proud that his reputation, and that of his family, is secure.
I suggest that those who are interested in both sides of the story refer to this link from the "Wilkes Barre Citizen's Voice." These articles give an overall balance of opinion from all the parties involved in the controversy now taking place in Northeast PA. The coverage is detailed and professional.
Drilling - Citizens Voice
Cordially,
Bob K.
Drilling - Citizens Voice
Cordially,
Bob K.
