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For the anti gun Hollywood crowd
- Thread starter CTobias
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Trouser Trout
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Not just Hollywooders that are anti gun kooks. I must have heard 100 times in the last two weeks that since Bushmasters etal. aren't needed for hunting they should be banned. as we all know the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting, but the anti gun boobs will continue to try to make it exactly about that, and as our country continues to emulate failed western European countries will get more gun regulations which will result in more gun bans and hysteria. Also, I would love to see all of these anti gun kooks put their money where their mouth is and stop acting in any movie that depicts gun violence.
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Rusty Spinner
Active member
If I had the funds, I'd pick up an AR right now. Always wanted one, and my time to legally purchase one may be limited although I doubt it. Either way, a fun gun to shoot at the range.
BrownChickenBrownTrout
New member
You can still get a M1 garrand they the CMP I believe.
BrownChickenBrownTrout
New member
Thru the...
Trout Fever
New member
you can still buy ar15s the problem is that they are hard to find people are buying them like crazy other sites have post the prices have gone up from $1200 to $2200 to $2800... bushmaster i believe still has them listed for around $1200 but the other problem is that the .223 ammo is sold out of most places.... on another note the short mag calibers winchester is not going to be making any more due to sales dropping so if you have 270 short mag or 300 short mag buy it when you see it other wise your gun is just going to be a collectable...
bottom line its not hollywood thats the problem its the PARENTS... end of story
bottom line its not hollywood thats the problem its the PARENTS... end of story
Rusty Spinner
Active member
Buying a fully built gun is tough right now, but you can purchase the lower, upper, barrel, etc. and build your own much more easily than overpaying for one right now. Ammo isn't tough to find, just certain stores. Guys are posting on sites like NJ Hunter where they are buying it. Plus, this will be a very short lived phenomenon. Ammo manufacturers will catch back up with demand as they did after the Obamination was elected the first time. Or was that ordained? Hard to remember....
Are we at war with Oceania right now??? (for you Orwell fans)
Are we at war with Oceania right now??? (for you Orwell fans)
dcabarle
Administrator
What I find funny about the video is the song they chose at the end. The band lead singer is as anti american as it gets. Shit... the name of the band is, Ramallah!
CTobias
Professional BS'r
I didn't even know who they were. My wife said they are some hardcore band.
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
Uppers and lowers are scarce right now. If you want either components or a complete piece, you need to put down your deposit and wait. And for the money, I would get something other than a Bushmaster. If you educate yourself on what makes a good AR a good AR, you'll gravitate towards the quality manufacturers.
Rusty Spinner
Active member
I agree, I would never buy a Bushmaster. Lots of much higher quality ARs out there. My neighbor and his 3 adult sons are way into building their own ARs after they initially made full gun purchases. It's fun to talk ARs with them because between them they live in 3 different states and have various state compliance issues they have to deal with and different tastes in what they want in their guns. They all just shoot targets, none hunts. They have done some neat research on all things AR, from cost, to quality, to accessories.
Trouser Trout
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
I know lots of guys who have shot thousands of rounds thru their bushmasters and have had no problems. Never heard of a problem with a bushmaster.
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
I'm sure that for going to the range, the Bushmaster is fine. Alternatively, a gun is an investment. For the same money as Bushmaster is asking (which is pretty high), I can get something that has a proper 5.56 chamber, mil-spec barrel and shot-peened auto bolt carrier that have both been proof and magnetic particle tested, M4 feedramps, and a forged lower. Its all in the details, and for over $1k, I care about the details.
Trout Fever
New member
trout nazi sounds like you can read an article!! have you shot one of these rifles? there are alot of preferences on the market when it comes to buying "investment" guns. which you are totally correct guns really dont lose to much value. but there is nothing wrong with a bushmaster as long as the gun fits you correctly and you like it...pm me the ar you are talking about being your so secretive on here who cares what brand not like your affiliated with it are you?
john
john
LyNcH
Dries, wets, nymphs and streamers...it's all good!
AR's are certainly fun at the range, it just sucks plunking down serious cash to go blast off rounds for a few hours. The most enjoyable AR I have ever shot was a friends pre-ban Colt in 9mm. That gun is serious fun!
Start pistol shooting, that's where the challenge and fun comes in. Depending on your state and it's concealment regulations, they also make for perfect undetected personal protection so you can protect yourself, your family and 3rd party innocents from the next nut job who borrows an AR-15 and desires to make the front page. Wouldn't it be great to see an article where a firearm actually stopped a criminal from murdering a mass group of victims?
By the way, has anyone noticed how many of these mass shootings take place in a designated "no-gun" area? Even the whacks don't want to get shot at. The more anti-gun restrictions that go into place, the more the psychopaths and criminals will feel safe committing their atrocities.
If you have a pistol permit and it is restricted to hunting and target only, I encourage you to apply for an unrestricted/concealed carry permit just so you have the option. My wife and I both have unrestricted carry in NY.
Start pistol shooting, that's where the challenge and fun comes in. Depending on your state and it's concealment regulations, they also make for perfect undetected personal protection so you can protect yourself, your family and 3rd party innocents from the next nut job who borrows an AR-15 and desires to make the front page. Wouldn't it be great to see an article where a firearm actually stopped a criminal from murdering a mass group of victims?
By the way, has anyone noticed how many of these mass shootings take place in a designated "no-gun" area? Even the whacks don't want to get shot at. The more anti-gun restrictions that go into place, the more the psychopaths and criminals will feel safe committing their atrocities.
If you have a pistol permit and it is restricted to hunting and target only, I encourage you to apply for an unrestricted/concealed carry permit just so you have the option. My wife and I both have unrestricted carry in NY.
BrownChickenBrownTrout
New member
Here you go Lynch:
Shot and stopped, and very little coverage after the sandy hook incident.
http://www.woai.com/news/local/stor...nio-movie-theater/2wFsix5ntU2CDrsHjXx2kQ.cspx
Here's another one, my favorite btw.
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national...cala-Internet-Cafe-Authorities-162941656.html
The will to survive is not as important as the will to prevail... the answer to criminal aggression is retaliation. - Jeff Cooper
Shot and stopped, and very little coverage after the sandy hook incident.
http://www.woai.com/news/local/stor...nio-movie-theater/2wFsix5ntU2CDrsHjXx2kQ.cspx
Here's another one, my favorite btw.
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national...cala-Internet-Cafe-Authorities-162941656.html
The will to survive is not as important as the will to prevail... the answer to criminal aggression is retaliation. - Jeff Cooper
Trouser Trout
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
If you live in the Peoples Republic of NJ and wish to carry, the move is to apply for a Florida out of state concealed carry permit, I believe they are about $120 for a 4 year permit, this enables you to carry a concealed handgun in about 39? states who have a reciprocity agreement with Florida, of course NJ is not one of them but. PA is. I am sure if you google it you can edumacate your dumb asses on all the particulars.
Trouser Trout
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
So, would you think a Bushmaster with 20" HBAR, Skeleton stock, sling, and case used but, in new condition for $602 was a good investment?
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
Yes, I've thrown a few rounds down range, in a couple of different configurations. And yes, I can read, but some of this shit is metallurgy 101 and applies to a high performance crankshaft or con-rods as much also. Point I'm making is dollar for dollar, there are better options than Bushmaster. I personally like BCM.
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
That sounds like a fair price, as long as its not excessively worn. Also, is this a pre or post Remmington Bushmaster? The beauty of the platform is, as Rusty has said, is its modular. If you really get into it, you can upgrade to a BCM, Colt, or Daniels upper down the road. Same wih the lower.
streamfisher
Northeast
Wow... the same people talking to themselves and bashing others while they do it. ie: Anti-Gun kooks and boobs etc... I'm fine with you'all talking to yourselves - but expect people to call you out especially when you continue to pass judgment on others....
First, I'm not an anti-gun person. But I do carry common sense. and this is what I've seen from this thread:
Why mass shootings occur:
Hollywood is too violent (I agree that conversation needs to be had here)
Video games are too violent (I agree that conversation needs to be had here)
Parents need to be responsible (I agree that conversation needs to be had here)
Mental Illness (I agree that conversation needs to be had here)
Weapons management (Nothing to look at here?) Really?
Seriously? How can one not witness the slaughter of innocence multiple times and NOT think that EVERYTHING should be looked at? Not even little changes? You'all need to start thinking outside the box instead of inside the barrel. On each of the categories listed above you could have dialog that goes on for dozens of pages each. But all I see are pages and pages of how wonderful guns are. And then you call people who want to talk about preventing mass killings kooks and boobs.
First, I'm not an anti-gun person. But I do carry common sense. and this is what I've seen from this thread:
Why mass shootings occur:
Hollywood is too violent (I agree that conversation needs to be had here)
Video games are too violent (I agree that conversation needs to be had here)
Parents need to be responsible (I agree that conversation needs to be had here)
Mental Illness (I agree that conversation needs to be had here)
Weapons management (Nothing to look at here?) Really?
Seriously? How can one not witness the slaughter of innocence multiple times and NOT think that EVERYTHING should be looked at? Not even little changes? You'all need to start thinking outside the box instead of inside the barrel. On each of the categories listed above you could have dialog that goes on for dozens of pages each. But all I see are pages and pages of how wonderful guns are. And then you call people who want to talk about preventing mass killings kooks and boobs.
Trouser Trout
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
In NJ we already have more gun laws than can possibly be enforced, what good would more do? What would your proposal be? And, i don't blame Hollywood, video games, parenting, Dennis Cabarle, or anyone else, other than the individual who perpetrates the act. And yes Virginia, the anti gunners are a bunch of kooks.
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
So what's "weapons management"? You think that by banning assault weapons, for example, you'll actually stop acts of lunacy? Or people from acquiring said weapons (since banning things in the US has worked so well in the past)?
And that nut who shot up the theater last year drove by 2 closer theaters that allowed weapons, 40 minutes out of the way to a theater that restricted them, because he knew there would be no resistance. "Weapons management" to me is allowing the right people to carry their weapons.
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
Yes, they do. And tobacco grows itself, harvests itself, rolls itself, and then sticks itself into your mouth and lights itself.
streamfisher
Northeast
I agree with this. so... a simple example: The guy in Webster NY that shot the firemen... He went with his neighbor to Gander Mtn. He talked to the sales guy and picked the weapons. At the time of sale, he has his neighbor sign the documents saying she'll be the owner. (He knew he couldn't get them because he was in prison for killing his grandmother). The sales guy clearly knew what was going on... Is there not something simple that could be done here to improve the likelyhood that this type of transaction does not occur?
WBDluver
Official NEFF pot stirrer
There is a law against doing that already on the books. It is a federal crime punishable by up to ten years in prison and 250,000 dollar fine.
