Fly\River Suggestions

[bluecollarbleached]

NEFF. I am asking for some advice. As April 1 approaches, I want to start seeing what all this fuss about dry fly fishing is about. So, for the end of march through June, what dry flies would be my best bet? Pictures would be helpful. Also what rivers tend to be the most productive. Thanks in advance. I live in westchester ny and have fished the east branch croton and norwalk if that helps.

 

[tompg]

The Croton system is a good place to start. The Catskills around Roscoe would be next.

You will want lots of flies to "match the hatch." For these, every time you go fishing, hit a local fly shop and ask "what are they hitting today?" Beyone that you'll want some standards.

For Dry flies you should always have some attractors in a variety of sizes. Wulf's and Adams are my favorites and they come in a variety of styles. I like the parachutes and CDC styles. Comparaduns are also great. Google image search these names to get an idea.

For nymphs you'll definitely need some smaller prince nymphs hares ears to get started. Early sesason it's nice to have some big and small stone fly nymphs as well. For nymphs, I prefer bead heads but I am not a good nympher.

Also get some streamers. Wooly Buggers, and Muddler Minnows in a variety of sizes and colors.

Terrestrials: Get some ants, beetles and hoppers for June-Septembert fishing as well.

This will get you started. the flyshops you stop in well give you much more to go on and be much more specific to what is good that day/week. March Browns, Green Drakes, Sulphers, Blue Winged Olives, Coffin Flies, spinners (the fly kind not the metal kind), and caddis will more or less round out your fly box and with the above will give you a good chance of catching fish anywhere anytime. Just remember that presentation is generally more important than selection.

Dry fly fishing one the Beaverkill, Willowemock, and Neversink may be a bit more forgiving than the EB and WB Deleware for starters. Try the popular named holes on those rivers. Native brookies are very easy as well but they're very spooky. If you don't scare them, can present the fly (any fly) decently, they'll strike.

Good luck

Tom

 

[TheHeron]

NEFF. I am asking for some advice. As April 1 approaches, I want to start seeing what all this fuss about dry fly fishing is about. So, for the end of march through June, what dry flies would be my best bet? Pictures would be helpful. Also what rivers tend to be the most productive. Thanks in advance. I live in westchester ny and have fished the east branch croton and norwalk if that helps.

Another one that wants to be spoon fed........:bang:

Do a search or better yet read a book or two about the subject and then get your ass out there and learn from your experiences.

Mel

 

[bluecollarbleached]

Another one that wants to be spoon fed........:bang:

Do a search or better yet read a book or two about the subject and then get your ass out there and learn from your experiences.

Mel

Mel,

Thanks for the insight. I will make sure to utilize my resources and read a book - or join a forum of other fly fishers to learn from there expertise and get pointers as to their experiences. Oh, wait. I did that already. Well in that case I will have to go out and fish every weekend to learn from trial and error. Oh, damn, I am doing that as well.

But thanks for the insight.

BCB

 

[tompg]

The first time I bought flys I felt like an asshole with my $12. to buy a few. I got 3 wooly buggers and did not know what to do with them. I was used to buying panther martins. What did I know. Just though eh might like to learn from my experience.

 

[TheHeron]

Mel,

Thanks for the insight. I will make sure to utilize my resources and read a book - or join a forum of other fly fishers to learn from there expertise and get pointers as to their experiences. Oh, wait. I did that already. Well in that case I will have to go out and fish every weekend to learn from trial and error. Oh, damn, I am doing that as well.

But thanks for the insight.

BCB

You're welcome. When I get a chance I'll post a list of all the dry flies (including emergers and spinners) you may need along with photos of every one, AND a list of all the best rivers within two hours of you. Also which of the flies will work and when on each river.....and GPS coordinates to accesses....

Give us break, will ya. You want a specific answer, ask a specific question.

Oh, and put a leash on that mutt!

Regards,

Mel

 

[bluecollarbleached]

I gave location and time frame, so yeah. Oh well. If you didn't want to or were too troubled to share any info, there was really no need to post a response.

 

[bluecollarbleached]

Tom thanks for sharing that info. It will help me out when I go buy some bugs.

 

[dcabarle]

NEFF. I am asking for some advice. As April 1 approaches, I want to start seeing what all this fuss about dry fly fishing is about. So, for the end of march through June, what dry flies would be my best bet? Pictures would be helpful. Also what rivers tend to be the most productive. Thanks in advance. I live in westchester ny and have fished the east branch croton and norwalk if that helps.

Looks like the Heron had some bad meat for dinner last night.

What it's about... Being out on the river with the sound of a running stream with the occasional splash of a trout hitting the water after charging after an emerging insect. Spotting rising trout and figuring out what they are taking. Sometimes you can figure it out right away and other times it might take a few hours. Mostly for me it's about casting. I love to see how far I can cast my 5wt line. Even hooking into a fish at 100 feet away is exciting. You don't even have to land the thing, just knowing that you fooled him at that distance is enough to get your adrenaline going.

This site does have a hatch chart with a link to pictures as well as a general time frame in which those insects are expected to hatch.

North Eastern Fly Fishing Forums NEFF Hatch Chart!

As far as being productive from March - June. That you'll have to pay attention to the threads for. Watch what people have been posting. Normally the south eastern rivers run a little earlier than the northern rivers due to temperatures.

Feel free to ask any more questions right here.

 

[TheHeron]

Looks like the Heron had some bad meat for dinner last night.

What it's about... Being out on the river with the sound of a running stream with the occasional splash of a trout hitting the water after charging after an emerging insect. Spotting rising trout and figuring out what they are taking. Sometimes you can figure it out right away and other times it might take a few hours. Mostly for me it's about casting. I love to see how far I can cast my 5wt line. Even hooking into a fish at 100 feet away is exciting. You don't even have to land the thing, just knowing that you fooled him at that distance is enough to get your adrenaline going.

This site does have a hatch chart with a link to pictures as well as a general time frame in which those insects are expected to hatch.

North Eastern Fly Fishing Forums NEFF Hatch Chart!

As far as being productive from March - June. That you'll have to pay attention to the threads for. Watch what people have been posting. Normally the south eastern rivers run a little earlier than the northern rivers due to temperatures.

Feel free to ask any more questions right here.

How come I couldn't have said it that way? Bad meat? The question just seemed to be asking for too much, that's all, so I busted chops.

Yeah, ask away, pay attention, watch, listen, observe, and most of all take your time and enjoy.

Oh, and put a leash on that mutt!

Mel

 

[bluecollarbleached]

put a leash on that mutt?

 

[bluecollarbleached]

Looks like the Heron had some bad meat for dinner last night.

What it's about... Being out on the river with the sound of a running stream with the occasional splash of a trout hitting the water after charging after an emerging insect. Spotting rising trout and figuring out what they are taking. Sometimes you can figure it out right away and other times it might take a few hours. Mostly for me it's about casting. I love to see how far I can cast my 5wt line. Even hooking into a fish at 100 feet away is exciting. You don't even have to land the thing, just knowing that you fooled him at that distance is enough to get your adrenaline going.

This site does have a hatch chart with a link to pictures as well as a general time frame in which those insects are expected to hatch.

North Eastern Fly Fishing Forums NEFF Hatch Chart!

As far as being productive from March - June. That you'll have to pay attention to the threads for. Watch what people have been posting. Normally the south eastern rivers run a little earlier than the northern rivers due to temperatures.

Feel free to ask any more questions right here.

Thanks DC. Hooking into a fish 100 feet away sounds awesome. Now I just need to find a way to get my line out that far

 

[Corndog]

Thanks DC. Hooking into a fish 100 feet away sounds awesome. Now I just need to find a way to get my line out that far

BCB, Just feed your line out in the current as it drifts down stream. DC has one of those Thomas & Thomas bamboo CO2 shooting sticks. It's the propellant that actually makes his 100' casts.

Heron, 35 posts since Sep 2005 and that's the best you got! You've gotta be oozing with information you want to share. Just give us your favorite fishing hole coordinates.

Tom, I remember the first day I bought flys. I bought the ones that looked the most like Mike's Pink Eggs and Powerbait. Spent a small fortune. The ones I didn't throw in trees, I snapped off on my back cast. Ahaaaaaaaa...the good ole days.

Cdog

 

[TheHeron]

BCB, Just feed your line out in the current as it drifts down stream. DC has one of those Thomas & Thomas bamboo CO2 shooting sticks. It's the propellant that actually makes his 100' casts.

Heron, 35 posts since Sep 2005 and that's the best you got! You've gotta be oozing with information you want to share. Just give us your favorite fishing hole coordinates.

Tom, I remember the first day I bought flys. I bought the ones that looked the most like Mike's Pink Eggs and Powerbait. Spent a small fortune. The ones I didn't throw in trees, I snapped off on my back cast. Ahaaaaaaaa...the good ole days.

Cdog

Another Einstein, judging someone on how many posts they have. The guy wants his hand held - please name all the flies over a three month period, post photos of them, and tell me all the best rivers......give me a break.....

The rewards are only as great as the effort in reaching them. I have no issue with someone asking a specific question about something, but GIVE ME A BREAK........names, photos, rivers.........

And you think you are oozing with info? Share some of your wisdom, yoda, let's hear it......

Mel

 

[Dr. Gonzo]

BCB I can't remember if you have this or not but the TU guide to the Croton Watershed is a good place to look for fly pattern suggestions and stream information. The hatch chart in the back is pretty comprehensive and should point you in the right direction. And since you're often shacked up with your lady in Brewster, a lot of the rivers are spitting distance for you. Here's some info from the chart:

Early April:
Little Black Stones, BWO, Adams, Little Blue Duns, Black Caddis

Mid April/Early May:
Quill Gordon, Hendrickson, Red Quill, Black Caddis

That should get you started. I'm itching to get out and explore some of these watershed streams since the East Branch has been nothing but a skunk factory for me so far. This weekend might be hectic for me but I can probably sneak away for a bit. April 1st can't come soon enough.

 

[Corndog]

Okay Mel,

Einstein??? It's right there staring us in the face with each post you make...32,33,34,35...What choice do we have? Using the new math, you're averaging 1 post a month. Thanks for your generous contribution to the site. I don't know how we ever survived without you. Looking at your profile, I see that you have given us absolutely zero information about you. Hmmmm...:dizzy: So how do we ask you about specific info on a stream near you?

Curiousdog

 

[kindanewbie77]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

 

[jamiep]

Okay Mel,

Einstein??? It's right there staring us in the face with each post you make...32,33,34,35...What choice do we have? Using the new math, you're averaging 1 post a month. Thanks for your generous contribution to the site. I don't know how we ever survived without you. Looking at your profile, I see that you have given us absolutely zero information about you. Hmmmm...:dizzy: So how do we ask you about specific info on a stream near you?

Curiousdog

Well said cdog:nose-picking:

 

[Corndog]

Actually I think there's something fishy going on here. His post count has been at 33 for a long time. Maybe his post counter is stuck or maybe someone here has a split personality.

And enough already with the nose picking smily.

Curiousdog

 

[jamiep]

Actually I think there's something fishy going on here. His post count has been at 33 for a long time. Maybe his post counter is stuck or maybe someone here has a split personality.

And enough already with the nose picking smily.

Curiousdog

Sorry cdog aka curiousdog:nose-picking:
Had to do it.

 

[bluecollarbleached]

Another Einstein, judging someone on how many posts they have. The guy wants his hand held - please name all the flies over a three month period, post photos of them, and tell me all the best rivers......give me a break.....

The rewards are only as great as the effort in reaching them. I have no issue with someone asking a specific question about something, but GIVE ME A BREAK........names, photos, rivers.........

And you think you are oozing with info? Share some of your wisdom, yoda, let's hear it......

Mel

Dear Mel,

I am going to file this under U. For Useless Ramblings. Heres what went down, let me hold your hand through this. I asked a question to the community. Responding to this question was completely voluntary. You decide that I asking to be spoon fed, and say something ridiculous. So how about we come to a mutual agreement. Instead of asking for a spoon to be spoon fed, I will give you the spoon, so you can eat my a$$ you clown.

Regards,

BCB

 

[trico mike]

Always carry griffins nats 18-26 midge adults18-28 ants , beetles, Bwo's 16-depending on were you fish 32 's .Then get your self a good hatch chart on the areas your going to fish and go from there. I usuall carry one box for early season flies and one for later season (small bwo's & trico's) The above mentioned flies are always good to carry you would be suprised how well ants work in mid april. Now excuse me nature calls:toilet-humor just wanted to use one of the new faces)

 

[coolkyle]

The TU Guide to the Croton Watershed is a good place to look for fly pattern suggestions and stream information. The hatch chart in the back is pretty comprehensive and should point you in the right direction.

:iagree::smiley-sniffer:

 

[irish1]

I know on some forums there is an "ignore" option that, I think, would be a good option to use in this case.

 

[Hllywd76]

Okay Mel,

Einstein??? It's right there staring us in the face with each post you make...32,33,34,35...What choice do we have? Using the new math, you're averaging 1 post a month. Thanks for your generous contribution to the site. I don't know how we ever survived without you. Looking at your profile, I see that you have given us absolutely zero information about you. Hmmmm...:dizzy: So how do we ask you about specific info on a stream near you?

Curiousdog

Very true,
There have been a few other threads that address this same question. There have been many pictures of fly boxes posted.:ttiwwp:

So Mel and your 35 posts, what have you done for us latley.:S::baby:


Hllywd

 

[bluecollarbleached]

I do think that there is something to be said of starting a thread again even though there have been threads on it in the past. Fortunately, since I have been here, which has been a relatively short time, we have seen several new members come on board. Starting a thread up allows new members to take part. Also, as people visit the site and maybe dont sign up for the site, maybe if they see a thread that strikes their fancy they will be more apt to sign up. Therefore building the community and membership. What I am getting at here is that while the members who have been on the board for a while might see a thread started by a new guy like me redundant since it has been talked about in the past, it still serves a useful purpose among newer and prospective members.

 

[kindanewbie77]

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:.

 

[Hllywd76]

I do think that there is something to be said of starting a thread again even though there have been threads on it in the past. Fortunately, since I have been here, which has been a relatively short time, we have seen several new members come on board. Starting a thread up allows new members to take part. Also, as people visit the site and maybe dont sign up for the site, maybe if they see a thread that strikes their fancy they will be more apt to sign up. Therefore building the community and membership. What I am getting at here is that while the members who have been on the board for a while might see a thread started by a new guy like me redundant since it has been talked about in the past, it still serves a useful purpose among newer and prospective members.

BCB,

I agree 100%. You did NOTHING wrong starting a thread asking for information specific to where you fish and looking to gain knowledge.
What I was saying was that :dickhead: Mel was wrong for answering that way and boosting his post load with such :looser:uking-smiley:. I hope you get some answers on what you asked.

Gotta love these new Icons. And I thought there was no use for them when they first arrived.. I'm still waiting to find a use for the bouncer..

Hllywd

 

[TheHeron]

BCB,

I agree 100%. You did NOTHING wrong starting a thread asking for information specific to where you fish and looking to gain knowledge.
What I was saying was that :dickhead: Mel was wrong for answering that way and boosting his post load with such :looser:uking-smiley:. I hope you get some answers on what you asked.

Gotta love these new Icons. And I thought there was no use for them when they first arrived.. I'm still waiting to find a use for the bouncer..

Hllywd

Hllyd, you forgot a$$ clown....


Mel

 

[Corndog]

Thank heavens, I thought we lost you Heron. 34 and counting.

Welcome back,
Cdog