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trout stocking and high water

porterskill

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the streams that have been stocked already,where do the trout go?what is the survival rate of stock trout in streams after this type of flooding?
 
They'll probably spread out a bit more than normal, but will find pocket water to "hold" in, and most will do just fine.

IMHO: The only problem is that some may get "stranded" in puddles when the water receedes.

BTW: Most (if not all) stocking in New Jersey for 2010, won't start until March 22nd.
 
the streams that have been stocked already,where do the trout go?what is the survival rate of stock trout in streams after this type of flooding?

usually when the streams go over their banks there is some mortality but for the most part these fish hug the bottom where the current is broken by the natural changes in bottom contour. It doesnt take very much to create a break or a seem. In addition some fish move to the sides where additional current breaks create some slack water. I remember fishing one opening day after torrential rains and flooding the week prior and catching fish in a pool that was created when the river went over the banks.
 
As stated before... the fish will be ok. The only ones that might not make it are the few that get stuck in a field or a side channel that dries up. Usually the fish find their way back into the main river. High water before opening day usually makes for a good season. There is nothing worse than low water and having the fish all piled up in the holes.
 
NJ hasn't begun its pre-season stocking so it is not an issue. The rivers will all be back to normal in the next few days and we stock beginning next week. Fish, even freshly stocked trout, have no problems with floods. They get out of the heavy current and move back to their normal lies once the high water recedes. Personally speaking, the best thing that can happen is a flood just before opening day to help spread some of the fish out since the state mostly has to stock from bridges which congregates the fish into the few pools at those locations. A good high water event like we just had is the ticket to better distribute those fish IMO. But it's not like they get washed out to the ocean...
 
If in fact the rivers are high the fish will disperse much better. Make it harder for the garden hackle fishermen to catch em LOL
 
I think fish swim.
I read it on the internet, so it must be true.
 
This is an interesting post because I stocked 200 brookies on the Pequannock TCA before the floods came. Keep in mind that normal flows for this time of year are around 100 CFS. During the flood, the river reached 3,000 for a short period of time. The river was so high it washed out a section of sidewalk downtown Bloomingdale!

I spent the entire weekend fishing, searching side channels and questioning other anglers and there's been no sign of those fish. I did notice a few people involved in illegal activities. One guy who drives a Chrysler PT cruiser had a stringer. Now why would someone carry a stringer when the regulations are C&R?

If anyone on this forum does catch a brookie on the Pequannock TCA, I would greatly appreciate it if you could give me some feedback on where you caught it.

Cheers! :)
 
I fished the bottom area of the old TCA by 23 on Sunday. It was still really moving,
didn't see or get any hits. Looked like some BWO's or blue quills were hatching. Is this
where you stocked or downstream in the new TCA ?
 
Hey guys was back behind my house this morning on the peqaunnock and i counted 8 brookies hanging out right next to each other. There were a couple bruisers mixed in there. They woulnt hit anything i threw at em. Was throwing spinners, salmon eggs, then when they werent hitting them i switched to the fly. Pheasant tail, nothing, Griffiths Gnat, Nothing, Kept on going through my fly box and tie like everythin on and they wouldnt hit anything. They were there i can tell you that. There were some good looking ones.
 
I fished the bottom area of the old TCA by 23 on Sunday. It was still really moving,
didn't see or get any hits. Looked like some BWO's or blue quills were hatching. Is this
where you stocked or downstream in the new TCA ?

No Gary, you're at the old TCA .
I'm talking about the new TCA. Its from under the 287 bridge down to Hamburg Turnpike bridge. I'm only interested in brookies because thats what I stocked.
 
Hey guys was back behind my house this morning on the peqaunnock and i counted 8 brookies hanging out right next to each other. There were a couple bruisers mixed in there. They woulnt hit anything i threw at em. Was throwing spinners, salmon eggs, then when they werent hitting them i switched to the fly. Pheasant tail, nothing, Griffiths Gnat, Nothing, Kept on going through my fly box and tie like everythin on and they wouldnt hit anything. They were there i can tell you that. There were some good looking ones.

So I guess everyone is going to Justyn's house on opening day. :)

Well that's great news you found brookies for 2 reasons.
1. the fish have survived.
2. Its not legal to fish behind your house yet!!!!!! OH :holy:

I didn't stock any larger than 11 or 12 inches so they are not my fish but I'm glad you found them.
 
Yeah Justyn, be careful what you post online, especially while breaking the law:crap:

No worries, you didn't catch any of them did you? :)
 
If anyone on this forum does catch a brookie on the Pequannock TCA, I would greatly appreciate it if you could give me some feedback on where you caught it.

Now you know there is at least one fish in the water after you witnessed false strike on my dry fly. Had one more in the second spot and that's all for today. I'll be there tomorrow again...
 
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