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Salmon River Report 2011

Re: Salmon River Report 2011 - Where am I ?

Because it is so narrow and there are no defining features, THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE TOUGH.

You guy's who ride past it in drift boats pay no mind.

But if you don't mind the walk ... you just might time it right for a very nice day.

This is not any of the areas already posted.
 
Re: Salmon River Report WAI #19

Second photo is secret hole.



Aren't they all Mahoney's run? Haha....that was an easy one. I'll have to dig through some photos and see if I can find one.

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This one should be easy....

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This one might be a tad tougher...

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Alright, enough of this mamby pamby photo contest. How about a FISHING REPORT!

Decided to hit the DSR today to pick up my season pass. The water is low, VERY low, but at 185, I was really able to see the contours of some of my favorite runs before the water goes up. I started off up at the head of the glide, swinging streamers hoping for a Skam attack, I had no such luck. I slowly made my way down, eyeballing the various "typical" holding water for salmon, and really didn't see much early on. I stopped at the Wall run and tinkered in there a bit, starting using an indicator rig, saw a few Kings moving around, but no takers.

I continued on down, with the plan to spend time at the Joss, Spring and end up at the Meadow so I could swing again. Well, I never made it to the Spring and the Meadow. The Joss hole was packed with salmon, fresh, bright and very active chinook salmon. At the headwaters there was a pod of maybe 20, and the tail of the pool, no exaggeration, 80-100 fish, circling and thrashing the entire lower end of the pool. It was awesome to watch. I fished there for a few hours before I left for the day. The fish were not in the mood to play, which drove me crazy! I managed 4 hookups, caught and released one male that was probably about 18lbs. I forgot my camera.

So the fish are starting to trickle in and there is certainly no major run. Only a few more weeks and it's game on!. They are expecting 4-6" of rain up there, the reservoir needs it.

There you have it folks. THE FIRST OFFICIAL SALMON RIVER REPORT FOR THE 2011/12 SALMON/STEELHEAD SEASON.
 
It looks like Irene didn't have all that much effect up in Pulaski.

Current river condition for Monday, August 29, 2011

Dam release of 185 cfs

River height of 5.42 feet


Gage at Pineville of 229 cfs

LyNcH,

When you were up there did you hear if how far off the river the Salmon are?
 
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Salmon are in 100 feet right now, with small pods entering the river....with the minumum flow of 335cfs starting this week, after the whitewater release this weekend, it will be bonkers next week
 
Hope to make a run up there for the long weekend to open up the place for the season.

Just the thought of being back up there is Chicken Soup for the Soul.
 
What Simms said. There are some fish in the estuary and some in the river, but certainly no great numbers and it's not the time to come up if you must catch fish. There won't be a huge push of fish this weekend, as I doubt the release will happen (they cancelled the release 3 weeks ago due to no water) but as you said, it's soup for the soul, which is why I play this game. It's been awhile since I had a chinook grab a big ugly streamer on the swing. I have some nasties tied up that should provoke them. This is the time of year they aggressively strike, especially when they just enter the river. The random brown and steelhead will start their journey as well..............

I'll try to stop in and say "Hi" if I make it up Sat & Mon.

Simms, Skim, anyone fishing on Monday? Of the 2 days, that is my most likely day of angling. If anyone wants a tour of the Douglaston while the water is low, I'll be happy to walk and fish that stretch with you. Top to bottom makes for a fun day with plenty of exercise.
 
365123 THE SALMON RIVER AT LIGHTHOUSE HILL
PUBLISHED ON AUG 30, 2011 AT 17:31:52 - EXPIRES SEP 01 11:59 PM

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For the Salmon River at Brookfield Renewable Power's Lighthouse Hill Dam, Altmar, NY. The following predictions are for flows in the river just below the powerhouse unless otherwise noted.

Due to circumstances beyond the company's control, the next scheduled Whitewater release is cancelled.


Until 11:59 PM Thu SEP 01, 185 CFS

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Re: Salmon River Report 2011 - Where am I ?

Eric,

While I am not someone who backs out due to "poor conditions" (them not doing the release anymore), I'm nixing the Salmon River trip this weekend. The rivers up here are fishing soooo well right now, its nuts...Floated one river today and destroyed them on steak'n'potatoes...Browns are beginning to move again and will soon be on streamers full tilt...Starting enxt weekend or the weekend after I will be altering weekends between staying in mass and hitting the Salmon. Thank you for the offer though. I will surely take you up on this this fall.
 
Pineville Bridge UPDATE

Fishermen are ready for Oswego County's salmon run, but bridge in Albion won't be

Published: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 11:03 AM
By Debra J. Groom / The Post-Standard The Post-Standard

A construction crew works on the new bridge over the Salmon River on Route 48 in Albion, in Oswego County.
Albion, NY -- Work on the Pineville Bridge in Albion won’t be done for the beginning of salmon season; the work’s been delayed about a month by a rainy spring. But none of what remains is to be done in the river, so the fish will not be disrupted. Fishermen will have to use detours to cross the river for about another month.

Oswego County Highway Department officials say the tentative completion date for the project is Oct. 28. They had hoped to finish by late September, but the wet spring got in the way.

Michael Bopp, spokesman for the state Department of Environmental Conservation, said the remaining bridge work is all structural and above the river, so the salmon run from Lake Ontario up the river will not be disturbed. The salmon could begin running any time now, and the run peak in late September or early October, Bopp said.

The bridge over the Salmon River on County Route 48 between Pulaski and Altmar was torn down last October at the beginning of salmon season, resulting in some consternation among fishermen and local businesspeople.

The bridge is a key spot for people who want to cross the river to reach various fishing areas. Fishermen have to cross the river at Altmar or Pulaski — about 8 to 10 miles either way.

Oswego County Highway Superintendent Kurt Ospelt confirmed crews rebuilding the bridge are behind. They are trying to catch up and may work double shifts. The bridge, built in 1940, is 228 feet long.


A view of the bridge under construction on Route 48 in Pineville, off Route 13 between Pulaski and Altmar.

Brenda Littlejohn, owner of Brenda’s Motel on County Route 48 on the north side of the river, said last year that she would lose thousands of dollars with the bridge being out. But last week, she said it wasn’t as bad as she thought because detour signs were up, and people found their way to her business.

She also said the detours still are up, so a one-month delay in opening the bridge shouldn’t deter fishermen this year, either.

A 2007 statewide angler survey estimated more than 2.6 million fishing days were expended on Lake Ontario and major tributaries, such as the Salmon River. The estimated value of these fisheries exceeded $112 million to local New York economies. A study done by Cornell University researchers called “Lake Ontario Sportfishing: Trends, Analysis and Outlook” shows fishing brought $16.5 million to Oswego County in 2007.

In addition to the Pineville Bridge, a smaller bridge over Fish Creek in Schroeppel also has been replaced. That bridge, on county Route 54, is only about 8 feet long. The work is almost done.

Also this summer, highway crews have repaved nearly 30 miles of county roads.

Contact Debra J. Groom at dgroom@syracuse.com, 470-3254 or 251-5586.
 
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Re: Pineville Bridge UPDATE

Thanks for the post. What's another month? Really, the 2A bridge detour is not a big deal, and most access the river from the north side between Altmar and 2A anyways.......unless you a snagging south trestle angler, then you deserve the detour.
 
Re: Pineville Bridge UPDATE

... bridge detour is not a big deal.

It is for those of us who reside at the Fabulous Resort of Stoney's on the Banks of the Salmon River.

I would have called it Stoney's Shangri la.. but he doesn't have a multi-coloured light fountain out front,
just the smelll dead and rotting carcasses in barrels out there.

If I told you the real reason.. it wouldn't be a great place to fish then, now would it.

But until the bridge is finished I don't mind the drive up and around to that place.
 
Re: Pineville Bridge UPDATE

the smell dead and rotting carcasses in barrels out there. If I told you the real reason.. it wouldn't be a great place to fish then, now would it.

But until the bridge is finished I don't mind the drive up and around to that place.

mmmmmm,mmmmm,good....the Pulaski female.

Hey, if the bridge was up and functional, who would we rely on to be our photo journalist this fall! You will take the detour and LIKE it, Sir.

I've just shored up my plans, looks like I will be hitting the SR on Saturday and Monday. I'll post up accurate reports, whether good or bad. There is no money to be made by me.
 
Dam release posted at 335 cfs till midnight tonight.

Gage at Pineville at 0315 reading 5.79 FT


Flow of 392 cfs


Sun rise at 0629, set at 1938
 
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I don't know what the Douglaston posted today about the run, but I can tell you it sucked. I got to one of my favorite spots, 3rd cast through the pocket at around 6:20a, had a hookup, last only a few seconds because I was not ready for it..............that was it. The fish obviously hunkered there for the night, there was no, I mean no movement on the run today. I saw 4 fish total. It's not worth going up yet of you are considering it. Wait until the next storm up there, then the following morning will kick off the run in force, until then, I just might be staying home.

I ended my day a bit earlier than usual, which gave me time to stop in and visit AK Skim as he was opening his camp for the season. We shared conversation while enjoying a cold frosty Heineken (thank you for that). He told me about RRTU and the guys on here that are involved. Sounds like a good thing, with a good group of guys. I look forward to meeting you all at the SR bash.

After leaving Camp Skim, I decided to take a drive up to the falls and check out the resevoir, as I hear it is low. Well, low is an understatement. It is really low, they need rain in a major way. Here are a couple pictures.

The Salmon River Falls, barely a trickle.

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The upper reservoir, which feeds to lower reservoir, which feeds the river.
 
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Dam release at 335 cfs

Height of 5.85 FT

Pineville gage reporting a flow of 423 cfs.

It started raining about 1820 on Sunday, around 2130 it was coming down hard in Pineville.

Can see the little bump in run off, I wonder how much of an impact if any on the height of the reservoir.
 
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Headed up to the Salmon River on Friday afternoon for the long awaited labour Day Weekend.

Over the past few years there has been enough construction on I-81 to make the journey a bit longer.

I found every secondary road around the construction, for there is nothing worse than to sit, rather keep moving even at a slower pace than sitting.


SALMON RIVER TRAFFIC REPORT FOR I-81 NORTH


I didn't checkout the PENNDOT web site, wanted to see where if any construction and bottle neck areas are in order to warn other's coming up.

Rt. 78 NJ, Rt. 33 PA, I-80 PA, Rt. 380 PA, I-81 PA & NY is my route.

Sign for Binghamton, NY without a slow down.

So - far - so - good.

Reminds me of Maine and the Pelletier Bros. of Millinocket - American Loggers and the Golden Road to some of the best fishing Maine has to offer (my opinion that is).

This can't be.. open road. Exit 31 in NY first slow down. From 3 to 2 lanes. Two lanes open. Not bad so far.

The construction lasted about a mile and back to the normal flow of traffic north.

Welcome sight, Exit 36 PULASKI.

Labour Day weekend Rt. 13 traffic Report


How many times do you see this?

Traffic backed up on Rt. 13 from the I-81 off ramp to the first light in from of TOPS Supermarket.

Course they all didn't have fishing rods sticking out their back window, motor homes, jet skis, boats on trailers... lake traffic.
 
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Dude, I know you're pissed about the Pineville bridge and all not being done yet and the detour, but you are supposed to take pictures of the RIVER!
 
Course there was a push of salmon right after everyone went home after the Labour Day weekend.


Pineville gage reports river height at 5.86 FT

River flowing at 428 cfs.


WHITAKERS FLY SHOP REPORT
Thursday was a warm and muggy day with the temperature reaching into the 70's. We did not get the heavy rain that was expected, the areas south and east of Syracuse got hit the hardest, our water level actually went down. The anglers we spoke with who fished the DSR reported a slow day and that they had to work much harder for the fish then the previous day. Anglers reported that some fish were on the move but nothing like it was on Wednesday. Anglers staying in the motel also reported getting into a few fish in the Black Hole, Staircase, Ballpark and Papermill under lite fishing pressure.SUGGESTED PATTERNS:
  • Estaz eggs in pink, purple, chart, orange and blue, size 4.
  • Comets in pink, purple, chart, black, white and blue, size 2.
  • Egg sucking leeches in black, size 2-6.
  • Woolly buggers in black, brown, olive and white, size 2-6.
  • Glo-bugs in pink, chart, orange, blue and oregon cheese, size 4-8.
  • Salmon Special in pink, purple and orange, size 4.
  • Bunny leeches in black, olive and tan, size 2-6.
DSR REPORT for September 9th 9:16am
Fishing was slow this morning, but guides and anglers are reporting that the action is picking up.
The lower end seems to be fishing better this morning than up top. Hopefully.



Weather:Today: Sunny, with a high near 76. North wind between 5 and 9 mph.

Tonight: Increasing clouds, with a low around 55. Northwest wind around 5 mph becoming calm.

Saturday: Sunny, with a high near 70. North wind around 11 mph.


Water:Until 11:59 PM today, Fri, 335 CFS

TEMP: 65


 
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DSR 2011

In 2009 they went from $300 for a seasonal pass (2008) to $450 for the seasonal pass.
That is when I told Jason; with two kids in college that is too steep for me in one year.

Did I like fishing the DSR in September ? You bet I did.

I haven't fished it since 2008, and have no plans of doing so this year.

Deadman's Curve, The Black Hole, Jordan's Run, and the ever popular Staircase.

They are still free.

I still prefer to fish from the Trooper Hole to the Bovines.

A short walk and you have a lot of elbow room. May not have as many fish, but the
other's slinging of lead is not too dangerous either.

A quick check of their web site the passes are $45.00.

You can even order them on line
https://www.secureacc.com/douglastonsalmonrun/default.aspx?PageID=13
 
Dam release at 335 cfs.

Pineville gage at 5.82 FT

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Flow at 407 cfs

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Whitaker's Fly Shop Report for Monday, Sept. 12th

We've been stuck in the same weather pattern for several days and Monday was no different. It was another hot and humid day with plenty of sunshine and the temperature reached into the upper 70's. Once again it was a slow day at the DSR and the anglers we spoke with reported very few new fish on the move. Over the last few days the majority of action has been in or around the deeper holes such as Black Hole, Town Pool, Papermill, Sportsman Pool and Trestle Pool.

SUGGESTED PATTERNS:
  • Estaz eggs in pink, purple, chart, orange and blue, size 4.
  • Comets in pink, purple, chart, black, white and blue, size 2.
  • Egg sucking leeches in black or purple, size 2-6.
  • Woolly buggers in black, brown, olive and white, size 2-6.
  • Glo-bugs in pink, chart, orange, blue and oregon cheese, size 4-8.
  • Salmon Special in pink, purple and orange, size 4.
  • Bunny leeches in black, olive and tan, size 2-6.
 
For anyone going to to Pulaski this weekend you may encounter a few trouble spots.

Rt. 81 north above Binghamton, NY


vBulletin



There is still storm damage repairs at exits 3, 6, and 7, that they
still are holding to have the work finished by the end of the week.


vBulletin



Between Exit 6 & 7 it is down to one lane.

Shoulder work in the Syracuse between Exit 26 & 30.

Still down to one lane at Cicero between exits 30 & 31.

There are no other reported trouble spots.

vBulletin
 
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Returned earlier today without any hiccups in the traffic coming or going. Repair has been made to the road depression just north of Binghamton on 81. Rt 88 closed but should not affect any of us southerners. Southbound on 33 in Poconos getting some resurfacing could cause some delays heading home. Slow Monday & Tuesday from the ball park to the trestle. Scattered fish moving east in 335cfs every few hours, few hookups here & there for some. Mid afternoon on Monday scouted the mouth to the Estuary to see nothing staging. Charter boat captains say lake is still loaded, be patient. My well & neighbors pond at camp was very low, not much ground water to speak of. Wednesday/Thursday should bring a little bit of much needed rain & cooler temps in the 30's. I'll wait another week or two before heading back up, but sure felt good dangling a line a bit.
 
Re: Salmon River Report WX 14-16 Sept

Weather forecast for the Pulaski area Wed. Sept 14th - Tue. Sept. 20th



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Re: Salmon River Report WX 14-16 Sept

Decided to hit the river today. They did not get the rain nor wind that was predicted. I hit several areas on the river today. Started at the Douglaston, fstarted fishing at 6:20am, fished the Meadow, Spring and Wall, no fish movement whatsoever, which is very very unusual for this time of year down there. From there, went upriver and fished the Sock Hole, Mahoney's Run, Muskrat Hole and finished off at the UFZ. No one tug, nothing, nada. Oh well. I did take a picture of something that we will never see again in the year 2011.

This run with no people in it. The LFZ opens tomorrow. There were a few fish thrashing around in there, but not many. Some fish are already in the ladder at the hatchery.

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After I unsuited, I decided to go watch the show at the trestle pool from north side. Surprisingly, it was not crowded, but the snaggers were still there. Watched one guy on the south side lift right into a fish, fight it for 10 minutes, unhook it from the side and proceed to string it up.

Here is a short video of the classic trestle snagger. The best was that there were easliy 10 fish right near him, with every "drift", they would move away from his fly. The video didn't come out as clear as I hoped, then there's the peanut gallery guy next to me with his comments.


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there was the fish in the sock Monday. very slow day on the lower river again this moring.hope all fish were seeing out front will make a move soon
 
Re: Salmon River Report 2011 - Where am I ?

All salmon season means is that soon it will be STEELHEAD SEASON!!!!!! The only thing mudsharks are good for, is getting roe for your clients so you don't have to buy bags.

But who needs BAGS?!?! When you've got a Cliff's Bugger Box full of rabbit strip streamers and egg sucking leeches?!!! With another 350 hooks on the way?!!??!!!!! Needless to say, my room mates and people I work with think I have a problem because all I do is tie flies and talk about fishing. I think they're the one's who have a problem. It also doesn't help that I met some Canadians here from BC. Now if I could just meet one of those guys that owns property on the Sustut and then I'd be set.

I can't wait to get home and just SMELL clean air!!! If anyone has ever wondered what it smells like in a third world country, just find the closest septic system and stick your head in there.

See all you folks in a few months!
 
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