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BEWARE: Asshole rangers at Boat ramps.
- Thread starter dcabarle
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"You can observe a lot just by watching." Y. Berra
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You #$!*$@ FLATLANDER
have a look...
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You #$!*$@ FLATLANDER
have a look...
YouTube- We Dont Need No Stinkin Badges!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/749675/badges_we_dont_need_no_stinkin_badges/
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DoubleHaul
DoubleHaul
WBDluver
Official NEFF pot stirrer
Well as a former government employee and law officer I can bet these two just graduated from FLETC. It is where all government law enforcement agancies go to train. It is located in Brunswick Ga. you are there with Boarder Patarol, US Marshalls etc. When they are done you think your John Wayne and Rambo rolled into one. One thing I learned as a government employee is that they soil their shorts when they get a letter from a state rep or congressman. SO I would write a letter to my state rep and send a copy to their supervisor. No doubt he will show it to them and maybe that will calm them down and not feel God like. Years back I was pheasant hunting along the Delaware near Dingmans Ferry. Two other hunters were there and shot at a flock of geese. These two knuckle heads blocked the road with their vehicle so i could not leave they thought I shot at the geese (it was goose season) but I did not. They spent 15 minutes looking through the Pa game laws for goose season. Then I told them that they would not find it in that book. They ask how come, I told them it was federally regulated not state and the regs they can get at the post office. I also asked them how many shots did they hear fired and how many of me do you see? Talk about dumbass's Another time I was fishing at the sewer plant in Hancock, two ranges came down and yelled from the bank for me to come in so they could check my license. I told them to come to me. (they had no waders) so they left.
Write your state rep and cc it to their supervisor in Narrowsburg, it will stop this.
Write your state rep and cc it to their supervisor in Narrowsburg, it will stop this.
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We were also stopped at Buckingham by these 2. Actually, had no problem with them whatsoever. Asked who's boat, we said West Branch Anglers(we rented drift boat). They said please show life jackets and fishin licenses which we did and then he asked if we had any fish. He said just lift the top of the cooler which he peeked into from shorre(didn't look to hard) and we were on our way.
I met the one guy(the one who seemed more in charge) at Calicoon couple years back. He was nice enough, a little strange but nice enough. He's been a ranger for over 24 years and does take it seriously it seems but not a total dick.
I met the one guy(the one who seemed more in charge) at Calicoon couple years back. He was nice enough, a little strange but nice enough. He's been a ranger for over 24 years and does take it seriously it seems but not a total dick.
dcabarle
Administrator
The one guy who I assume you spoke with, I've also met on a few occasions. He's pulled me over before and like you, I've never had an issue with him. But, the tag team efforts by the two of them combined was a bit over the top. The person who searched you, I'm assuming the weird guy, also searched me very briefly and that was it. However, I did find it very odd that he actually studied my license (Drivers license and NY license) to the point whereas I thought he was going to be quizzed at the end of the night. The way they treated my friends was uncalled for and unnecessary.
Here we are, out of staters, paying 70 bux for a FISHING license and these turds ask us what brings us so far from home! Uhhh... Is that a trick question? "The geese?" ohhh I know... "We're checking the trees for termites".
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Trouser Trout
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
The more i read of this the more my ass is getting chapped. WTF makes it
ok for these clowns to think it's ok to "search you"? Even asking you to look in your cooler, regardless what you have in there, the answer should be, NO. I was hunting pheasant on NJ state land near Flatbrook, I was with a couple of other guys, we were approached by two NJ conservation officers and while one was asking stupid questions the other was doing his best to grope our gamebags and shell pockets, which we put an immediate end to, which prompted more stupid questions. The entire scene was quite confrontational and didn't need to be. But, when you realize that someone in law enforcement is violating your rights you should get good and pissed off about it, and not tolerate it.
Well, hell since those damned mythical trout on the Upper D system don't ever take an anglers fly if I was a Ranger I'd be wondering why someone would drive 3hrs up there myself. And WTF is with the wind, EVERY time I spotted a rising fish, even if there was no wind at all as soon as I waded out to to cat to it would whip right up. I swear it was like Ed Harris was there saying "cue the wind." I just spent Friday thru Monday camping & fishing up there, caught one friggin' trout on the Beaverkill. Yea me, lovely scenery to be pretty much skunked in though, I'll be back to flail at the water hopelessy again I'm sure.
WBDluver
Official NEFF pot stirrer
I have fished in Yellowstone Park and other national parks and the UD is the only place I had these rangers act like "you must be doing something wrong" I think they get a chubby just thinking about catching someone who might be breaking the law out of ignorance
Rusty Spinner
Active member
jphardy
Hardy Cascapedia
WP,
I was actually a bit bothered by the questioning. It seemed accusatory to me. Not so much what they were asking but the way they were asking
I was actually a bit bothered by the questioning. It seemed accusatory to me. Not so much what they were asking but the way they were asking
theartoflee
Anadromous Angler
WBDluver
I agree that the Rangers on the D make the assumption that you are doing something wrong. :down:Having fished Yellowstone Park as well as having worked for the national park system as youth, I have never run into such fascists as those two wanna be thugs at Buckingham this past Saturday night.
Dcabarles assessment of the scenario is completely accurate. I was there and was one of the guys that got tag teamed by the rangers. The rangers asked questions that if I were to ask my coworker I would be hit with sexual harassment suit. When he first asked me "what we were doing" I first got confused and thought their is something off with these guys.Then when they asked me about my friends relationship status things became clear. This ranger wanted to ask my friend to the Prom. "Is he single" I thought to myself these pecker heads have been fluffing each other up in the lot for some time they are really looking to get some now.
The best question was "can you tell me something special about your friends garage" "is there something unique about his garage that stands out?" Before these guys finished they needed a little more material. I hated to break it to this poor guy but my buddy and I are both straight shooters there is no way either of the rangers are parking their car in my friends garage. "How long have you been friends?" Boy the ranger were upset I swear he wanted a prom date. "Where did you meet your friend" they were trolling for some man love and are clueless where they can get some. It became clear to me that this ranger was desperate for some heavy petting from a little male on male action.. but tonight they would have to take care of themselves. These guys were so desperate to get some they asked my friend where he was staying. They wanted to call over the resort, it was asthough my friend was pamela anderson. There is nothing wrong with being into men if that is your thing but common guys "NO" means "NO"
When I went back to the boat and was released and we could began taking out, I noticed not one but both of the rangers were excited.
uking-smiley:Clearly sexual harassment, I just wish these guys thanked me for my time. Once they realized they were in the wrong a simple thank you for your time, have a good night" would have made them seem like jerks instead of total Fascists abusing the system.
:finger:
Once we got back to NJ my friend updated his relationship status on Facebook just to clear things up for the two desperate park rangers!
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Trouser Trout
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Bravo, simply outstanding!!!WBDluver
I agree that the Rangers on the D make the assumption that you are doing something wrong. :down:Having fished Yellowstone Park as well as having worked for the national park system as youth, I have never run into such fascists as those two wanna be thugs at Buckingham this past Saturday night.
Dcabarles assessment of the scenario is completely accurate. I was there and was one of the guys that got tag teamed by the rangers. The rangers asked questions that if I were to ask my coworker I would be hit with sexual harassment suit. When he first asked me "what we were doing" I first got confused and thought their is something off with these guys.Then when they asked me about my friends relationship status things became clear. This ranger wanted to ask my friend to the Prom. "Is he single" I thought to myself these pecker heads have been fluffing each other up in the lot for some time they are really looking to get some now.
The best question was "can you tell me something special about your friends garage" "is there something unique about his garage that stands out?" Before these guys finished they needed a little more material. I hated to break it to this poor guy but my buddy and I are both straight shooters there is no way either of the rangers are parking their car in my friends garage. "How long have you been friends?" Boy the ranger were upset I swear he wanted a prom date. "Where did you meet your friend" they were trolling for some man love and are clueless where they can get some. It became clear to me that this ranger was desperate for some heavy petting from a little male on male action.. but tonight they would have to take care of themselves. These guys were so desperate to get some they asked my friend where he was staying. They wanted to call over the resort, it was asthough my friend was pamela anderson. There is nothing wrong with being into men if that is your thing but common guys "NO" means "NO"
When I went back to the boat and was released and we could began taking out, I noticed not one but both of the rangers were excited.
Clearly sexual harassment, I just wish these guys thanked me for my time. Once they realized they were in the wrong a simple thank you for your time, have a good night" would have made them seem like jerks instead of total Fascists abusing the system.
:finger:
dcabarle
Administrator
I think there is a law (4th amendment) prohibitting unreasonable searches and seizures. It seams unreasonable in my opinion to ask someone to open their cooler unless there were beer bottles lining the bottom of your craft and the two of you were so intoxicated you couldn't even stand or perhaps devices on the boat to make explosives. However, had you simply said, "I prefer not to open my cooler at this time", I believe they can impound your car and boat until they can obtain a warrant. Is it worth the effort and money to say no? These RANGERS had an adenda. GUILTY and We'll do our god damned best to prove it. If not, we'll move onto the next boat.
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
In order to get a warrant to search your cooler, the "officers" would have to convince a judge (with evidence) that they know what they will find in that cooler. If they were to go to a judge with "I've got a feeling, Judge..." they'd be laughed at by said judge and then booted out of his office.
dcabarle
Administrator
You're probably right but I have a feeling they'de still find a reason to impound your car.
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
Well, not MY car...
I've got NY tags.
I really don't think they would. Isn't there a lawyer that haunts this site? Or better yet, a cop?
That's the key, just keep going back until you catch them regularly
At one point on the East Branch while I was taking turns casting to 3 big rising fish on each drift I was pleading aloud "Oh please, please take it, I don't care if you break me off either, PLEEAASE just take my fly." I was in agony, I could clearly see one fish that was about 18-20" and the other I could see porpoising was an absolute monster.
JP,
I think I noticed an Elliptical in the back of of one of their trucks!!!! Private Joke Guys.
Seriously though, it was alittle weird and intrusive. We didn't get questioned as much as some of the rest of you. Some of the questions you guys say they asked sound ridiculous and none of their damn business.
I think I noticed an Elliptical in the back of of one of their trucks!!!! Private Joke Guys.
Seriously though, it was alittle weird and intrusive. We didn't get questioned as much as some of the rest of you. Some of the questions you guys say they asked sound ridiculous and none of their damn business.
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