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What's wrong with people?

It may surprise some of you to hear it, but I get a little weird in winter too.

Book a trip to Hawaii now.

Or the Bahamas.

10 am sunrise and 3:30 pm sunsets are rough.
 
I thought post birth abortion was another name for the death penalty. I think George Carlin supported abortion up to the 4,000th trimester.
 
What I do not get. The same demographic that is pro-abortion is anti-death penalty.:confused: Bottom line abortion is a form of eugenics.
 
It vexes me that the anti-abortion demographic is pro death penalty.

I think comparing an innocent life to one that has taken a life and been found guilty by a jury of his peers is a bit of a reach. If you go out and commit murder you certainly know the penalty for getting caught. That being said I am personally not for the death penalty
 
What I do not get. The same demographic that is pro-abortion is anti-death penalty.:confused: Bottom line abortion is a form of eugenics.

Abortion definitely can be argued to be eugenics. It has social consequences.

It raises interesting issues, especially when parents can do genetic testing while a fetus is developing in the womb.

Some parents get amniocentisis to determine if the fetus has down syndrome.

In China, abortion of females may cause social problems.

All these issues ought to be discussed.

Good argument.
 
Ha. this is a joke website, right? I stopped at the 2nd paragraph...

"Anecdotal evidence by leaders of prolife groups such as Created Equal and Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust said in interviews that not only do they see more college students willing to say..."

I think we're done here.
 
I guess a fetus would be more interesting to bait fishermen, but parts could be used to tie flys? Maybe you could find some fine makings for a fly line but there's not much hair to tie with.
 
I guess a fetus would be more interesting to bait fishermen, but parts could be used to tie flys? Maybe you could find some fine makings for a fly line but there's not much hair to tie with.

But the topic was post birth abortion or do you still consider a full term baby a fetus.
 
Post birth abortion is an oxymoron but for the sake of keeping this discussion where it belongs,on fishing, how do best harvest a newborn for use in catching fish on the fly? I still say this topic really belongs on a bait fishing site.
 
But the topic was post birth abortion or do you still consider a full term baby a fetus.

Nobody rightly considers a baby to be a fetus after birth.

Lets look at the dictionary....

fe·tus

ˈfēdəs/

noun

an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.
 
Why is it you can't answer questions directed to you but wish to chime in when the questions are directed to someone else?
 
Why is it you can't answer questions directed to you but wish to chime in when the questions are directed to someone else?

Because the right wing lunacy espoused here is actually a deliberate form of delusion and fantasy that apparently sets in and is most acute at the end of the fishing season.

There is nobody on earth who knows the definition of fetus that considers a baby, after its birth, to still be a fetus.

Nobody on the left with any sense believes in any of the crap that you imagine or is suggested in that inane propaganda article.
 
I get it, we're talking about eggs, nymphs, emergers, duns and spinners.
Eggs = eggs/sperm
Nymph = fetus
Emerger = baby popping out
Duns = post birth
Spinners = where we all wind up.
 
Because the right wing lunacy espoused here is actually a deliberate form of delusion and fantasy that apparently sets in and is most acute at the end of the fishing season.

There is nobody on earth who knows the definition of fetus that considers a baby, after its birth, to still be a fetus.

Nobody on the left with any sense believes in any of the crap that you imagine or is suggested in that inane propaganda article.


Really???

Top 10 reasons Obama voted against the Illinois Born Alive Infant Protection Act - Illinois Review
 
You really are trying to be serious, right?

You think Obama supports post birth abortion?

I'm gonna throw out the hypothesis that yooz ig'n'ant.


John rather than feign surprise try reading and listening to his ever evolving reasons for arguing against what should have been a fairly easy vote. Worst case He could have voted present but he chose to rise and attempt to make a highly nuanced argument against it. Now someone is ignorant in this back and forth and its not me.
 
John rather than feign surprise try reading and listening to his ever evolving reasons for arguing against what should have been a fairly easy vote. Worst case He could have voted present but he chose to rise and attempt to make a highly nuanced argument against it. Now someone is ignorant in this back and forth and its not me.

Are you suggesting that Obama supports post birth abortion?

I AM suggesting that you, Mac, are delusional, and that the foundations of your politics, religion, are also delusional.
 
agreeing with beetle sickens me to no end. but...what can ya do?

maybe if i go kill some babies that'll soothe my blackened ultra-liberal freedom-hating soul
 
I get it, we're talking about eggs, nymphs, emergers, duns and spinners.
Eggs = eggs/sperm
Nymph = fetus
Emerger = baby popping out
Duns = post birth
Spinners = where we all wind up.

So now humans are compared to insects. With that said, it is not surprising the way human life can be so easily dismissed.
 
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