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Toms River TCA

flyman23

Just finished a River Runs Through it!
Took a drive on Saturday to Toms River. I live in South Jersey and always head to North Jersey or the Catskills to fish. I was wondering, does anyone know if trout hold over in this section of Toms River. It seems like it gets plenty of shade. But I would think it still might get to hot in the summer to support trout. Does anyone know how the fishing is there and is it a muddy bottom like the Manasquan? I would be nice to get a quick fix for a few hours, rather then driving for a few hours to get some fishing in.
 
Fish definitely hold over in the Toms - I've never seen the temps ever exceed 68 degrees. The river is totally opposite of the Manasquan with sand and gravel bottom. The only problem with the Toms is that following a heavy rain the water continues to rise for several days and takes usuallya week to return to previous levels. It doesn't get off-color but it's very tough fishing at high water and when flows approach 400 cfs it can be dangerous for those not familiar with it.
 
Johnw said:
The only problem with the Toms is that following a heavy rain the water continues to rise for several days and takes usuallya week to return to previous levels.

John,

Do you know why this is? I noticed that the Toms always seems to be on rise when the other rivers are going down, even a couple of days after the rain has stopped.
 
Flyin is right - the Toms flow is still rising from Saturday's rain and the nearby Manasquan is almost back to the level that existed before the rain.
 
This Could Be A Nice River For People In The Southern Part Of State,at One Time T.u. Was Very Involved,don't Know What Happen.this River Could Really Use A Caretaker
 
Sj Tu

Lad the South Jersey TU is a very group of Lads. You might want to attend the next meeting and bring that very point to the floor.
 
The Toms is very well cared for by a number of groups ranging from the Dover twp and Jackson governing bodies to the Jersey Shore Trout Unlimited.
 
EZ CADDIS said:
This Could Be A Nice River For People In The Southern Part Of State,at One Time T.u. Was Very Involved,don't Know What Happen.this River Could Really Use A Caretaker

I believe they still are heavily involved and do a lot of work for the Toms. As far as "it could be a nice river...," I think it already is. It is just a tough river to fish.
 
Toms river

Well put by John & others --Not only does it holdover fish -but they are very healthy .Even before recent efforts by several here & the state I was one of the few fishing it & did well with older fish.
However it goes with out saying that it is a difucult river to fish& a real challange for several reasons.
 
Don - you were the one who got me to stick with the river after my first couple of outings went fishless.
 
As far as SJ streams go, I think the Toms is the best at what it does. It supports good population of holdovers, and maintains a pretty constant cool flow throughout the summer. You can't really say either about the other stocked SJ streams. I don't think it needs any more help, except for keeping more rampant development out of its headwaters. Like everyone else said, it's a tough stream to fish, and once you figure out its secrets, it's still hard... ;)
 
Toms

Well put---it's still tough ---use a short rod & walk so softly ---As far as help well it's still need a few more programs ----I still belive the state is putting to many Browns in the wrong shore river ---
 
So I'm thinking of heading up to Toms River Friday morning. What is it that makes it so hard to fish? Looks a little tight, but other then that is there anything else I should know?
 
Yeah, tight quarters make it very tough. You need to be able to roll cast effectively. And you need to be pretty right-on with your accuracy. Plus, the trout aren't usually too eager to bite anything, except right after stocking.
 
Walk softly and watch where you step (some deep holes). Fish are usually in places where it's difficult or impossible to get your fly or lure to.:rant:
 
Undertaker Don said:
Well put---it's still tough ---use a short rod & walk so softly ---As far as help well it's still need a few more programs ----I still belive the state is putting to many Browns in the wrong shore river ---

curious about this Don. I don't think Browns are the right fish for the Toms, but do you disagree? I thought with the acidity, that brookies would be the best bet for the Toms.

I thought "brookies" were in the future for the Toms, not Browns. Am I wrong?
 
Rob - brookies are in the future for the Toms and they do very well in there but so do the browns. There have been a surprising number of browns caught there in the past few weeks and they've been there for at least almost a year. In my opinion it's the rainbows that seem to do poorly there and I assume that's because of the acidity of the water.
 
Toms Browns

Rob-John is right ---depending on the Strain that is stocked either will do well- i have an eye to the future & fish ranging far & wide Also as you know the state has lots of surplus Browns that they have allocated for this reason again either specieis ok depends on the strain -if you want to discuss my theory furture e-mail me dgypsystar@aol.com--thanx D
 
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