More Tying Stuff - Isonychia Emerger

[Matt Grobert]

Sorry for the interuption, but I thought I'd share our latest lousy tying video with you all. I wish I had an insult to go along with it. On second thought, I did hear that lightenup, being the consumate chef, prefers fishing for trout when the water temps are high. It saves a step.......:rofl:

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[Trout Fever]

i didnt know you knew how to tye!! great looking bug

TF

 

[CTobias]

who wastes their time tying flies? I have all kinds of people in third world countries who are willing to tie flies for me for pennies

 

[lightenup]

Sorry for the interuption, but I thought I'd share our latest lousy tying video with you all. I wish I had an insult to go along with it. On second thought, I did hear that lightenup, being the consumate chef, prefers fishing for trout when the water temps are high. It saves a step.......:rofl:

No, it's because they are easier to land when they are floating.......I still enjoy cooking!!!!!:nose-picking:

 

[Trouser Trout]

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Nice fly Grobert, i would have called it the "crapping dog". Just wondering what the hell you expect to catch with that thing, other flies?

 

[GARYB]

Matt,

Nice emerger, I have trouble keeping the deer hair on top, it spins around the hook. I usually don't have this problem with elk hair caddis,
but do on this type of emerger. What to do ?

 

[lightenup]

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Nice fly Grobert, i would have called it the "crapping dog". Just wondering what the hell you expect to catch with that thing, other flies?[/QUOTE]

You need to put a deer hair cape on that dog and try to cast him when the Isos are hatching...you may catch something....

 

[G Lech]

You need to put a deer hair cape on that dog and try to cast him when the Isos are hatching...you may catch something....[/QUOTE]


With the size of the iso's I saw this year a dog with a deer hair wing might get a few "eats"

 

[Trout Fever]

put a drop of glue the set the hair with a wrap or two give another drop and it will stay there forever!!

TF

Matt,

Nice emerger, I have trouble keeping the deer hair on top, it spins around the hook. I usually don't have this problem with elk hair caddis,
but do on this type of emerger. What to do ?

 

[Matt Grobert]

Matt,

Nice emerger, I have trouble keeping the deer hair on top, it spins around the hook. I usually don't have this problem with elk hair caddis,
but do on this type of emerger. What to do ?

When you make the first two wraps over the hair and then pull up to lock the hair down, you have to maintain that same tension for a couple of more wraps and then for the first couple in front of the butts. If you loosen the tension on the thread even a little before you do that, the prior wraps loosen enough so that when you go to tighten your thread again, the tightening of the thread, pulls the hair with it as it around the shank. I hope that makes sense, it's one of those things that's easier to show someone, than describe.

Matt

P.S. Depending on the size of the dog, you may have to use kevlar to get it tight enough................:thumb:

 

[Johnny Utah]

x-caddis????????

 

[Broadheadscreek]

Great tye Matt ! I tye the cdc version of that and love it have to give these a try as I think the body will set a little lower in the film.

 

[MACFLY]

Great tye Matt ! I tye the cdc version of that and love it have to give these a try as I think the body will set a little lower in the film.

Allen the CDC version is great especially when you lea e the wing longer. It got a lot of attention this spring from some really good sized fishies.

 

[Fredy]

So I was curious and googled x-caddis and came up with this picture.

Does changing the color of the dubbing make that much of a difference?
FYI - I am new to tying so I am just curious and now confused.

 

[nicklenuts]

I tie a grey fox emerger that looks just like that. Ive posted a pic before on here Great all purpose pattern. With the cc tail and wing tied straight up, it's highly
Visible and floats like a cork. Great fly for dry-dropper indicator

 

[Broadheadscreek]

Fredy you can take any of these patterns and change the dubbing color and hook size to match the hatch. So there is no confusion just different styles of patterns is all, and yes they all work at some point as long as the presentation is correct . Heck you could even patent it and make your own..

 

[Matt Grobert]

It is not an X-caddis, although the two do have similarities. I first came across this fly in the early 80's in the Catskills. Can't remember where or who introduced me to it, but it has worked well for me when the Iso's and other large mayflies (using different colors) are hatching, for about 30 years. I know a lot of Catskill/Delaware guides that have fished this pattern for years and still do, some carry both the CDC and deer hair winged versions. Many of the fly shops up there carry this exact pattern. It isn't something new, just an effective imitation that has withstood the test of time.

The X-caddis was developed by Craig Mathews of West Yellowstone to imitate emerging/adult caddis, and that pattern has been around for years as well. I started using them back in the mid 80's, when Craig started selling them commercially in his fly shop - Blue Ribbon Flies. It is tied on a straight shanked hook, but other than that, it is very much like this pattern. Craig has since created other versions - the improved X-caddis and the X2 caddis.


Whether Craig or the Catskill originator came up with the style first is anyone's guess. We made the video simply because it is an effective, easy to tie pattern, appropriate for this time of the year.

Matt

 

[Trout Fever]

allen once you showed me the cdc emergers thats my go to fly unbelievable how well that fly works

TF

 

[Johnny Utah]

It is not an X-caddis, although the two do have similarities. I first came across this fly in the early 80's in the Catskills. Can't remember where or who introduced me to it, but it has worked well for me when the Iso's and other large mayflies (using different colors) are hatching, for about 30 years. I know a lot of Catskill/Delaware guides that have fished this pattern for years and still do, some carry both the CDC and deer hair winged versions. Many of the fly shops up there carry this exact pattern. It isn't something new, just an effective imitation that has withstood the test of time.

The X-caddis was developed by Craig Mathews of West Yellowstone to imitate emerging/adult caddis, and that pattern has been around for years as well. I started using them back in the mid 80's, when Craig started selling them commercially in his fly shop - Blue Ribbon Flies. It is tied on a straight shanked hook, but other than that, it is very much like this pattern. Craig has since created other versions - the improved X-caddis and the X2 caddis.


Whether Craig or the Catskill originator came up with the style first is anyone's guess. We made the video simply because it is an effective, easy to tie pattern, appropriate for this time of the year.

Matt

Better put the hip boots on....... It's getting deep.

 

[lightenup]

Allen the CDC version is great especially when you lea e the wing longer. It got a lot of attention this spring from some really good sized fishies.

I like cdc..it floats great, but I often find it gets matted quickly and is difficult to dry and "fluff" once it becomes wet.....any help, or just put on a new one? I LOVE using Frog's Fanny to dry the wing, but find it to be a little too much like work when I am fishing.......

 

[Trout Fever]

lightenup get a shaker can works great i have cdc parachutes when they get wet throw the how fly in there and shake it up works great

all though cdc is time consuming is still my go to fly


TF

 

[CTobias]

Allen the CDC version is great especially when you lea e the wing longer. It got a lot of attention this spring from some really good sized fishies.

They let you use your own flies in the fish pools at the shows ehh? Or were you testing out the ones you bought there?

 

[lightenup]

You need to put a deer hair cape on that dog and try to cast him when the Isos are hatching...you may catch something....

With the size of the iso's I saw this year a dog with a deer hair wing might get a few "eats"[/QUOTE]

I can see it now....A 27' Sunrider fishing barge, a 9 foot surf-casting rod with 80' braid casting a brown dog with a deer hair wing to rising trout on the Delaware...priceless.
TF thanks, I have one of those shakers..I will try it WHEN THE WATER COOLS DOWN, GROBERT!!!...and see what happens....

 

[CTobias]

I will try it WHEN THE WATER COOLS DOWN, GROBERT!!!...and see what happens....

Don't be such a sissy...it's just a fish...I like to pile up the fish I catch on the bank so I don't cath them twice...then I put them back after I'm done so someone down stream can catch them.