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Landlock Salmon Fishing 2006

AKSkim

Boston - Title Town USA
As the salmon season in Pulaski comes to an end and the start of the winter steelhead and trout season is about to kick off, I cannot help to ponder on what had become an annual event and that is fishing for Landlock Salmon (LLS). For years it has been a ritual for me and my brother’s to meet in <ST1:p<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 /><st1:State w:st="on">Maine</st1:State> in early October which kicked off the start of a week long adventure that culminates with fishing the spawning run of LLS. River’s with hallowed names for LLS such as Penobscot, Presumscot, Roach, and my favorite Kennebec to name just a select few.


This past August and September I missed tying Carrie Steven’s patterns for the troops, Gray and Black Ghost’s, and some Mickey Finn’s of which my fishing buddies have a pension for finding tree branches that are just a wee bit too high to climb to retrieve on a regular basis. Of course every year the “non-fly fisherman” always out caught everyone. It wasn’t until last year at the East Outlet that I carefully watched him fish, where I discovered we have been sandbagged for all those years. While we fished, my older brother would go off and switch flies completely. Never knew of this until I grabbed the net to assist in the landing of one of his catches, which was met with a half dozen “I got it, I got it!” As any good fly fisherman, we always keep a corner of the eye on the other fisherman observing his technique, when you get a chance you look in their fly box, and if you are able to help with a netting of a fish, it is with the sole purpose of seeing what fly is stuck to the roof of the mouth of the fish. Undaunted, I netted the booger! That is when I discovered his secrete for years of out catching everyone. I saw a #8 Hare’s Ear! After much stream side commotion, his fly box was retrieved and opened for all to see. He’s a solid nymph fisherman! “Where’s my streamers!!!???” I heard myself exclaim, to wit, “I never use them, because they don’t catch fish!” Life can be harsh at times.


Fall fishing usually finds those stream gin clear and you are able to spot fish. You fish in and around boulders, deep slots, and pools for the LLS. He was regularly beating us with his down and across tight line swing with a nymph. He was on the bottom with a weighted Hare’s Ear or Pheasant Tail able to detect even the slightest bump and the quick reflexes able to set the hook. It has taken over a year to get over it (maybe).


I always fish with a small notebook tucked away somewhere, I like to make notes of the river, stream conditions, holes, runs, observations on techniques of the other fly fisherman, location of where I or other’s may have hooked into a fish for future reference. As stated above, we have a pension to look into fly boxes, like listen to fish stories to learn about locations and flies.


I did not make it up to Maine this fall for LLS fishing, however I do know of a regular on this board who had gone LLS fishing this season (I will not mention him by name, if that is ok with you Scott) and done reasonably well, and maybe with some coaxing, that nameless expert on the fine art of LLS fishing and tackle may just post a report for the rest of us to enjoy.


As always, wishing I could land a LLS.
2007 I will be found not in Pulaski, but Fryeburg.

AK Skim

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I have had two straight years of LLS skunking on Cayuga Lake tribs so don't feel bad. Did well with them 30 years ago, but lately the runs have been so-so and I haven't been putting the time in. I want to hire a guide to fish for them in the lake one warm winter day to get a LLS to hand once again.

The Hare's Ear comment perked my ears up since back in the day I finally found out what the most successful guy at the time was using. Streamers would work great when the smelt schools (now unfortunately wiped out) were swimming by, but the fishing would drop off when they left. A few diehards would stick to traditional salmon flies like Blue Charms, Green Highlanders, and Jock Scotts and they would pull the odd fish in. However, one guy always continued to catch them steadily when everyone else was getting skunked. One day I got a peak at the secret fly and the other guy finally confessed that he had been using Hare's Ears all along. Did the same thing with the spring rainbow runs, also with great success.
 
I However, one guy always continued to catch them steadily when everyone else was getting skunked. One day I got a peak at the secret fly and the other guy finally confessed that he had been using Hare's Ears all along.

I see you met my brother.

Until last year Jeff, I would never have guessed that a Hare's Ear would bag many a LLS.

As always Jeff, thank you for your post.

AKS
 
There does seem to be a lot of interest in bulldozers & riprap these days.

I would hardly consider myself an expert when it comes to salmon.

But I can contribute this regarding nymphs: LLS actively feed while on the spawning run in the fall. They do not die off after spawning like their pacific cousins do, and they can be repeat spawners as well.

I used nymphs this year with some success. I've also taken actively rising fish on a dry. However, while LLS are opportunistic feeders, they are primarily piscivorous.

The most successful pattern is often a baitfish imitation of some sort.

This year the most productive fly was a streamer pattern that just about perfectly imitates the local forage fish, and I'm not talking about smelt.
 
“With more and more liberal laws and regulations allowing late season fishing, there’s no reason for the avid angler to put away the fishing gear,” noted Chris Henson at Kittery Trading Post’s fishing department.<?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = O /><O:p> </O:p>
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"In the last several years Maine has allowed an extended season on several warm water species and some special regulations for catch and release trout fishing. One place that always has drawn a lot of fall fishermen is the Rangeley area, where historical runs of landlocked salmon and trout will run into the rivers to spawn. The Kennebago River is kind of the Mecca for a lot of fly fishermen. But that’s not the only river in the Rangeley River where that kind of fishing is available. The Rangeley River, Upper and Middle Dams and the Lower Magalloway all attract trout and salmon. The extended trout and salmon season which starts October first, allows only catch and release fishing while the regular season will end on September 30<SUP>th</SUP>.”<O:p> </O:p>
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“In New Hampshire there’s some spectacular river fishing to be had on the Merrimack and Pemigewasset Rivers where both Atlantic salmon and trout are available. This is a catch and release fishery after September, but you’ll still need a special Atlantic salmon permit to fish for them. No permit except for the regular fishing license is required for trout fishing those same waters.”<O:p> </O:p>
 
Spent many a day shopping at the Kittery Trading Post. Best selection of trolling flies and Mooselake Wobblers. That area along Rte 1 is really becoming a zoo lately (maybe for a long time actually) with the highest concentration of outlet malls other than Freeport.
 
AK there's a lot of locked gates in that part of Maine. If you don't mind driving out of the way, you can get around some of them.

The Magalloway can be good but between Lake Aziscohos and Parmachenee it is 100% dependant on rainfall to bring water levels up & move fish. I think a lot of folks fish the Magalloway below the Aziscohos dam. I haven't myself but I've talked with other people who have, and it sure looks like good water.

The Kennebago is a tail water, and now that control of the dam is back where it belongs, there should be continued improvement in the lower Kennebago.

I never did that well in the Cupsuptic for salmon, although there are some nice trout in there.

And don't forget about the Rapid, it gets a lot of pressure but that's because the fish are there.
 
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The Magalloway can be good but between Lake Aziscohos and Parmachenee it is 100% dependant on rainfall to bring water levels up & move fish. I think a lot of folks fish the Magalloway below the Aziscohos dam. I haven't myself but I've talked with other people who have, and it sure looks like good water.

Haven't fished that area...

May have to add it to the list for next year.

Will look to you for some advise and locations.

Thanks,
AKS
 
My best LLS and brookie fishing in Maine was canoeing along the Dead R from Spencer Stream to the Forks. No big fish (well once got an 18" LLS below Spencer Rips), but plenty of little ones. The 14 mile trip to the put-in used to take over an hour and scared the hell out of me between the rough road and the logging trucks barreling by (and yes they do own the road - you have to yield or die). There is a 3+ rapid (Spencer Rips) at the start and a class 4 (Poplar Hill Falls) at the end, but in between it is non-stop riffle-pool-riffle-pool with fish everywhere. It's a cool deep woods Maine float. Oddly enough you need to float on a weekend when the water is low - it is ripping during the week to power the mills in Skowhegan.
 
between the rough road and the logging trucks barreling by (and yes they do own the road - you have to yield or die)

Usually when there is active logging going on I've found most of the time the roads are graded and fairly smooth. The log haulers do fly along, I bet they get paid by the load.

But everybody waves "hi" when they go by. That's one of the things I love about Maine. When you're driving in the woods everybody waves hello to everybody else, unless they are "from away" (you folks who are "from away" know who you are...).

People will actually stop and ask if you need help if it looks like you do, and usually leave you alone if you don't (unless it's to ask how the fishing is).

We don't usually run into rude fisherman or pool hoggers, again unless they are "from away" and don't know the rules about pool courtesy, but fortunately that has been a rarity so far.

The western mountains of Maine are definitely one of my top three favorite places. Just not during "mud season".
 
Hi, I have fished the Rangeley area since the mid 70's. We go to camp on Rangeley lake now but have also stayed on Mooselookmeguntic lake. I have many hours logged at Upperdam, Kennebago, Magalloway, and the Rangeley river. Some of my best LLS catches in the fall have come in the Kennebago above Little Kennebago lake especially after heavy rain, the Rangeley river in the area known as the Bathtub has also produced well.At Upperdam I ahve taken many salmon and some good sized brook trout on the Mooselook side of the dam. The Magalloway has always been hit or miss. And my special place is the Southbog stream, brookies galore with a very special 19 inch trout taken. As for flies I fish streamers mostly with the 9/3, Supervisor, Mickey Finn, and Footer Special. I also fish a fly called an Ausable Bomber dry, and a few wet flies. This area is truly very special.
 
Hi, I have fished the Rangeley area since the mid 70's. As for flies I fish streamers mostly with the 9/3, Supervisor, Mickey Finn, and Footer Special. I also fish a fly called an Ausable Bomber dry, and a few wet flies. This area is truly very special.

Welcome.. no..

WELCOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now that you are here, I guess I can give JeffK and Scott a rest !!! hahaha

As you can see there are only a few of us that have the passion for LLS fly fishing, and streamers... (no offense) but many on this board believe that woolly buggers are streamers... a Mickey Finn, Alewife, Grey Ghost.. now THEY are streamers!

Look forward to many many hours of chatting & debating with you...

AKS
 
Since this thread popped up again, I will relate my last experience LLS fishing in 2006. I got a little closer, but still got shut out!

On December 15 I gave Seneca Lake one more try. It was a perfect day - 50F with a light South wind and the water temps were 47F. Saw two other guys fishing - a traditional copper puller (who was clobbering the lakers) and a smallmouth jigger who surprisingly was also having a very good day. I was casting smelt streamers with a 6wt outfit. The method was to cast around points where the wind would drive the bait and it was a run and gun sort of fishing going from point to point. It was odd pulling flies just under the surface in 75' of water 100' from shore, but that's Finger Lakes fishing. Those LLS seem to come out of nowhere and you watch them chase the fly - it seems something like saltwater fishing. After a few hours of this with no results, hit one point where a bigger LLS (the dominant year class in 2006 went 20" to 22") came streaking after my fly and I struck with the rod and pulled the fly out of its mouth. I know to strip set the hook and pull back the rod when the weight of the fish is felt, but I got buck fever. Had another chase my fly zigging and zagging around it. After a few passes it struck and I yanked it out of it's mouth once more. Fishing slowed down and started hitting more points. I finally had to go and we tried the point where I had the hits before and had another chaser. Steadily stripped the fly and the fish hit it, strip set and fish on finally! Fish rocketed a few feet into the air as only LLS can do and still had it on. 10 lbs test leader, good set, tiring fish - I started to think about having fish for dinner and just as I did it fell off. Thinking you have a fish before it is in the boat is sure bad kharma! Well, now I have to wait until spring, but I got closer to the goal. Had one 10" LLS chase my fly near the dock, but that wouldn't have been a good way to break the ice.
 
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