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Is this a wild fish?

sunsignarcher

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It's clean, nice fins, wide tail but dont some stocked fish live a sheltered life and look this good too.

How do you ID it definitively.
 

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That fish reminds me of the wild browns I catch on my local stream.
I would have to say yes based on the golden color and large head in proportion to the rest of its body.
The hatchery brown trout are silvery; they don't have that golden hue to them.
 
One way, I have heard, to tell a wild brown is the red halo on the Adipose fin....I have never seen a stocked brown with one, and have never seen a wild brown without one.....
That fish has a red halo on the Adipose fin, so I guess it is wild.......
 
Looks like the wilds I catch on the streams I fish. I agree with Pete but there trout habitat really depends the color. But resent stockies definitely dont look like that fish. I also have heard that wilds only have the blue mark behind there eye. But I have also read that many biologist have a hard time telling a holdover trout from a wild trout after the trout has been in the river system for a number of years. Any ways, im rambling. I say wild. Nice catch.
 
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How bout this one. I'm guessin yes based just on the fight he had in em.

BFB, under a partly submerged blow down.

all these trees in the water are a real bitch btw, especially up there.
 
Once these areas are no kill will the state begin to cut back on stocking?

Yes, just as they do with all the other TCAs. We're asking them to only stock rainbows since there are already wild browns and brookies and bows don't reproduce in that river system. We'll see if they do that, at least in that stretch of the Flat Brook. I'm hoping to see some true trophy wild/native brookies in a couple of years after the reg change.
 
It was almost laughable how many fish were in some of those pools.

Not as funny as the 10 guys lined up at some of em 5' apart drifting over the same piece of water again and again and again and......
 
It was almost laughable how many fish were in some of those pools.

Not as funny as the 10 guys lined up at some of em 5' apart drifting over the same piece of water again and again and again and......

But that's only because the only trout in NJ are in the KLG TCA:)

I had to guide there recently. When I say "had to" it was because I couldn't talk my client out of fishing there. He said he read so much about it online it was all he could think of. I took him, he caught fish, and the Gorge now has one more devotee that will never fish another spot. I guess that's good for the rest of us that fish everywhere else!
 
All the TCAs are like that I guess. Hell, I think I'm still that guy, but I'm learnin. I've wandered into some remote areas and fished completely alone on a beautiful Sat a few weeks ago in total disbelief that I didn't come across a single guy.

im still gonna fish the Gorge though:baby:
 
All the TCAs are like that I guess. Hell, I think I'm still that guy, but I'm learnin. I've wandered into some remote areas and fished completely alone on a beautiful Sat a few weeks ago in total disbelief that I didn't come across a single guy.

im still gonna fish the Gorge though:baby:


Just remember that the Division has specially trained all trout to stay exactly where they were stocked. If you're not in a TCA or within 20 feet of a bridge, you'll only catch chubs and sunnies.:)
 
Just remember that the Division has specially trained all trout to stay exactly where they were stocked. If you're not in a TCA or within 20 feet of a bridge, you'll only catch chubs and sunnies.:)

How does one get a job as trout trainer? I had trained goldfish in my pond and I am qualifed and ready to go to work
 
Just to be clear there are no plans to reduce the number of fish stocked in the first year, at least not as part of he regulatory change. There may be stocking changes made once we find out how the public and the fish react tot he changes. Keep in mind making the area C&R may push some people away, but normally it means that more folks are drawn to the area. There are certainly wild trout up on the Flatbrook and these regulations should help their number increase.

As to the original poster about the brown caught in the Gorge. We see lots of wild fish down there, but we also see quite a few holdover stocked fish. The red Adispose is a good indicator, as is the blue spot on the cheek and the full fins and vibrant body color. Fins and color can all develop if the trout is in the river as a holdover for a long time (More than 6 month for body color, not sure how long, if ever, for cheek and adipose.)
 
Keep in mind making the area C&R may push some people away, but normally it means that more folks are drawn to the area. There are certainly wild trout up on the Flatbrook and these regulations should help their number increase.

Very true, but if we can get critical mass and get enough TCA waters, then the "TCA Effect" will be minimized and it will help spread pressure beyond the big 3 (KLG/Pt Mtn/Pequest hatchery outflow). And the Pequest TCA is really only 100 yards long:):):)
 
Very true, but if we can get critical mass and get enough TCA waters, then the "TCA Effect" will be minimized and it will help spread pressure beyond the big 3 (KLG/Pt Mtn/Pequest hatchery outflow). And the Pequest TCA is really only 100 yards long:):):)

There you go spot burning again
 
I wouldnt mind seeing the stocking cut way back. Some of those nicer holes had so many fish it was almost silly. Stocking like that brings the wrong people out. I was really disappointed in the amount of no comprende spin guys with there 7'MH 10lb test bobber and rapala rigs lurking around in the BFB FF only.

I and many others got on them but they just moved up or down pleading ignorant...you never see that shit in the gorge. Every angler I came across said there always in there, WTF?
 
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