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Bamboo Rod

dcabarle

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Yesterday I woke up a bit late because I had a wedding to tend to all day Saturday. I wasn't going to fish yesterday but I had to try this new bamboo rod out. I went searching for the Neversink Gorge, but I couldn't find it. Maybe next week. So, I ventured up to old faithfull, The Beaverkill... I park my car and get ready to string my new rod up and guess what! I forgot my reel. I took it out of my bag last week to put a new leader on it and never put it back to where it belongs. I've been pretty forgetful lately. Last week I forgot my vest! How the hell do you forget your vest. Christ, I'm 34 going on 70. Lucky for me, I always carry my Felix the Cat bag and was able to pull out another reel (Orvis CFO / really nice reel). It had an old dirty 4wt line on it too! The line was so dirty that it sank to the bottom on EVERY Cast. As you can imagine, my hookup rate was rather low due to my inability to set the hook within a reasonable amount of time.

Hooking fish on Bamboo. Night and day. Graphite has a very soft feel to it (as I've just come to realize). Even the smallest fish seem to have some backbone with a bamboo rod. Bamboo flexes quite a bit too, so it's a little tougher to bring them in. Maybe my 12 foot leader didn't help either. I can't imagine catching an 18" fish on this thing, it feels a bit soft? Anyone know what I mean? I just feel that these rods (at least mine) is made for fish under 15", using nothing less than a 5x tippet.

Casting... Casting is a bit different too, in a good way. One of the major differences is that it always seems that whatever you do wrong, your fly always turns over perfectly! If it's all in the presentation, bamboo is the right way to go. I've never been so accurate before. Distance... I was able to put the fly just about wherever I wanted once I figured the rod out. Sure is a helluva lot smoother than graphite, that's for sure.

Catching fish on bamboo takes some time to learn. For one, there will be no Orvis like poses when you're fishing a Bamboo rod. If you fish like that, you'll put a set in the tip section. You've gotta just about point the rod at the fish. That takes a bit getting used to.

When I use the rod with some nice clean line, I'm sure the hookups will be a bit more and the casting will also be much smoother. Overall, it's a great rod for streams like the Beaverkill, neversink, and Willow. I'm not so sure I'd use it on a larger stream like the D.
 
Dennis, you'll get used to it. You don't need to baby the thing it will perform just fine. The only difference in playing the fish is to keep the rod tip more horizontal than straight up and to reverse the rod every now and then on big fish. I've caught stripers on my rods with no sets or problems. I think you bought a 5 wt, am I right? Your rod is a lot stronger thabn you think. that is "life" in the rod your feeling, not plastic.
 
Dennis,

There is an old saying "Once you go 'boo, you never go back". Andre is right, ya don't have to baby the rod. John N. showed me just how tough a bamboo rod is! (using my rod as an example!). After fishing it now you see the sensitivity of cane vs. graphite. As far as it's ability to fight BIG fish. I brought to hand a 6(?) pound wild brown one night on the Pequannock a couple years ago and the rod held up fine. Lee Wulff used to use one for TUNA! I remember you posted a quesiton about using streamers with bamboo last week. If your worried about dings from splitshot (which is not really a concern once you get used to the rod) try Carrie steven's "supervisor" (tied the way it was meant with double wings). The "castability" and action underwater is remarkable (but then, she was a remarkable gal).
 
Andre,

It's a 4wt 7'6 'Parabolic', a Super Sweet rod!

Denis,

This is the first time I've actually caught fish on a bamboo rod. Andre was nice enough to loan me a few of his rods which were pretty nice casting machines!

Like you said, when I learn how to use this thing the right way, I'm sure I'll slap a beadhead on there! By the way, how do these things handle streamers? Remember, it's only a 4wt rod. Strictly roll casting I assume?

By the way, does anyone else in here use Bamboo rods?
 

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D, I cast streamers no problem with my Granger and Thgomas 4 weights. I hate to admit this but i'll even cast a bead head bugger on my Weiler 3wt. Just let the loops open up even more by slowing down your casting stroke.
 
dcabarle said:
By the way, does anyone else in here use Bamboo rods?
I have 4, but I only used two of them frequently..

I don't use:
  • A 6' Hardy "Palakona" for 5 weight line. It's just too short for my casting style and skill level.

    An 8' Orvis "Nymph Rod" (built from a Madison kit) for 4 weight line. Too "willowy" for anything but roll casting. Getting a special purpose rod was probably a mistake.

I used the following on the NY "special regulations" section of the Battenkill for the Trico hatch in August. Both rods handle a 4 or 5 weight line nicely:
  • A 7' Phillipson "impregnated" w/extra tip for 4-5 weight line (built from a blank).

    A 7-1/2' Sharps "Scotty" for 5 weight line w/extra tip.
I didn't have to "adjust my style" for the Phillipson or the Scotty. They both seem to make delicate presentations easy. When the Battenkill got muddy after thunderstorms, I would use these rods for large black muddlers. The casting got a little sloppy, but the fish didn't seem to mind.

For distance casting on large rivers, ponds and lakes, I prefer graphite.
 
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Dennis,

I am a bamboo maker in Northcentral PA. You may find once you get use to your rod a graphite rod will just plan suck. Where you rod is a parabolic you will need a little time to get use to it. One thing people who are starting out with bamboo for the first time tend to do is over power the rod. Try slowing down your casting stroke a little and back off the power a little. Bamboo has a way of casting its self. Like Andre mentioned bamboo is a lot stronger than it seems. I have a banty that I made 4"8" 1pc that I have landed 15" to 24" brown and rainbows on and its still in nice shape. You can take a hammer and drive a piece of bamboo into a 2x4. Try doing that with graphite. Most important thing is to get out there and have fun with it. It looks like one nice rod from your pic.


Tight lines,

Pete
 
Dennis

I agree with what Pete wrote about slowing down, Bamboo just takes care of business by it self. They are just a dream to use (and watch) using Dry's.

I have not used any of my sticks on big water, MS or such. I used a new Hal Bacon on the Neversink last week and just couldn't stop admiring the rod. That first wild trout on a new rod is too cool. The first day with one is about the rod, the fishing fades to the background for awhile. All the visions of how the rod was made comes to mind when you see it at work for the first time.

I guess I am in the "baby them group", not for fear of any trout size issue, I just don't want to bang them around. I just love the feel and admire the craftsmanship necessary to make one.

I also have a Walt Carpenter and a Phillipson (impregnated). All are 5 wts.

Michael M.
 
DC / ET ALL

I propose that we have a bamboo rod fishing gathering on the Beaverkill sometime during the next few weekends.

I would like to fish one of the rods in my collection -- dry flies only.

Up to it?

HLR
 
The weekend after Father's Day works for me as well. Any other takers? I am planning on smoking a big cigar and talk about the old days when the fishing was great as well.....

HLR
 
I won't be going, but I thought I'd mention....Isn't that the NY "free fishing" week-end?

Good, if you don't have a NY license.

Bad, if it causes an overcrowded stream.
 
Maybe we can all track down to the Neversink Gorge! A few people sent me instructions on how to get down there (thanks guys). This would make a great photo op!

I know Hyde wouldn't be available for this, he's too far away. But then again, I can show you an easy way home from there (about 1hr 15 min. to NYC). I can get you onto the Turnpike in about the same time.
 
I would rather do the Beaverkill as I don't want to hump rods into the gorge and I love the cheeseburgers at the Sunoco. Don't know about the weekend after father's day though.
 
Andre --

I am up to meeting you on the Beaverkill as this is closer commute for me -- approximately 4 1/2 to 5 hours. If that weekend works, let me know.

Sincerely,

HLR
 
I'll be there

I'm probably going up for the weekend so I can meet you for the first time.

Are you going up Andre? Hope you can make it.

MNTrout
 
I'm going up Father's day overnight. But I can go any weekend after that. I only have one bamboo an 7' Orvis Madison 5 wt but it's a start. I usually break it out for summer/fall dry fly fishing. Second time I went to use it on the Willowemoc taking it out of the tube I split the tip banging it into my car, I almost cried. Orvis repaired it and rewrapped all my guides (one was rewrapped by the original owner) for $60.

Gary
 
As of right now it looks like Saturday the 27th works. Diner at 8:30:? Dennis W, if you want to cut the ride in half your welcome to spend Friday night at my house in Lambertville. It 's easy to get to from Maryland on either 95 or 295.
 
I'd prefer Sunday, but Saturday is ok with me. I'll have to leave for home around 3 pm

Andre
Saturday is the 26th
 
Andre / ET All --

I can definitely do June 26th at the Roscoe Diner at 8:30 a.m.

Let me know if that this works - I will travel up to Catskills Friday Evening and settle in near Deposit to fish WB, etc..

HLR
 
Count me in guys! I'll be there on the 26th. Should anything happen between now and then, I'll keep you posted. Nothing ever happens though so I'm 99.9% sure I'll be there.

Tomorrow I think I might go for another try on the Neversink River (Gorge area). I believe I have some accurate directions on how to get there (thanks to a few of the members here!).

Anyone know how the water temps have been in that area?
 
Dennis

Check Catskillflies before you go tommorrow, the Neversink is over 400cfs and cloudy, temp is around 63f. See you next Sat.

Gary
 
Andre / ET ALL

I would really prefer to be on the Beaverkill by 6ish or early 7ish due to the hatching activity. Could we push up the meeting at Roscoe Diner say at 10:00 a.m.?

HLR
 
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