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Apple caddis help
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Matt Grobert
6/0 Olive Danville
Olive-green bodied Iris Caddis size #16, egg-laying caddis for the evenings.
Petergoodman
Just finished a River Runs Through it!
First, there are a couple of different species of caddis referred to as "apple caddis", but lets go with the basics - the one that flies past you with the bright apple green body. When this bug first emerges it indeed does have an apple green body - if you want to experiment, try a two fly setup Iris with both olive green and bright green body to see which species you are running into - my experience has been more the bright green, but on any given stream or day...
Anyway, once this caddis has been out of the water a bit the color darkens to a very dark olive color. So if you want to be looking at a bug that is knocked down to the water surface, maybe a dark olive body Elks Hair or X-Caddis is not bad. Problem is that once caddis gets off the water the fish don't see too much of them until egg laying time - at which point, when you see bugs bouncing on the surface shaking off eggs, try a dark body Elk Hair, kind of like a St. Vrain Caddis with a lot of hackle up front, and a bright green egg sack at the end - cash across and down, and twitch the fly upstream an inch at a time. Finally, to really confuse things, some of these similar species swim below the surface to lay eggs - so if you are getting zip, try a dark olive soft hackle - Gary LaFontaine had a nifty tie that was basically this, with a light dun zelon underwing which he called the Diving Caddis I think.
Anyway, once this caddis has been out of the water a bit the color darkens to a very dark olive color. So if you want to be looking at a bug that is knocked down to the water surface, maybe a dark olive body Elks Hair or X-Caddis is not bad. Problem is that once caddis gets off the water the fish don't see too much of them until egg laying time - at which point, when you see bugs bouncing on the surface shaking off eggs, try a dark body Elk Hair, kind of like a St. Vrain Caddis with a lot of hackle up front, and a bright green egg sack at the end - cash across and down, and twitch the fly upstream an inch at a time. Finally, to really confuse things, some of these similar species swim below the surface to lay eggs - so if you are getting zip, try a dark olive soft hackle - Gary LaFontaine had a nifty tie that was basically this, with a light dun zelon underwing which he called the Diving Caddis I think.
LostnLovinIt
Dont leave fish to find fish....
Hey Iso, how about you grace us with an avatar?? Im sure if you ask nicely your son can hook you up!!:380:
Matt Grobert
6/0 Olive Danville
flyI4
Fishizzle, I use worms but I'm looking to upgrade!
A good ole lafontaine caddis with a white zylon shuck is a nice pattern for the apple caddis. For the adults, a tan wing cdc caddis will do the trick just fine. Be aware that most of the fish on apple caddis are eating the pupa, and when you see that tailing type of rise be critical of the rise form to see whether the fish is actually breaking the surface with his mouth, or whether its just the fin/tail of the fish. If its the tail, drop a small caddis larva off the back of a large winged caddis adult and be ready to set quickly when it goes over the fish. There are many times where fish appear to be rising everywhere but they are in fact below the surface and not eating dries. You will almost never get a fish to eat a caddis dry in this scenario and the dropper is the way to go. My best dry fly action on apple caddis is usually mid morning to about noon.
What for? I took yours. Bank napper
. Next thing, you'll want me to bring worms to Roscoe in a couple weeks.
JOE.T
Dry Flies Only
This is simple but deadly Caddis pattern, here or out west.
It's actually sold at the DRC, the difference is that with the one I fish with, I use CDC as the "under-wing"
Just change up wing and body color and match any Caddis anywhere.It is a Pupa pattern but is just as effective as a spent Caddis.
Hook- Tiemco 2487
Thread-Green
Body-Al Cauccis spectrumized dubbing, Apple green..When wet matches the natural perfect
Under-wing-High quality white CDC.Strip half of a feather, "roll it, and tie in tips facing the bend...No crappy puff stuff.
Wing -Bleached coastal deer hair, not to much keep it lite.
"Tails" 2 wood duck feathers tied in bend of the feather down..For the length you want the tip of the feather back behind the bend of the hook at least the 1.5x the body size.
There are Gazillions of Apple Caddis coming off now on the D..
May the force be with you.
It's actually sold at the DRC, the difference is that with the one I fish with, I use CDC as the "under-wing"
Just change up wing and body color and match any Caddis anywhere.It is a Pupa pattern but is just as effective as a spent Caddis.
Hook- Tiemco 2487
Thread-Green
Body-Al Cauccis spectrumized dubbing, Apple green..When wet matches the natural perfect
Under-wing-High quality white CDC.Strip half of a feather, "roll it, and tie in tips facing the bend...No crappy puff stuff.
Wing -Bleached coastal deer hair, not to much keep it lite.
"Tails" 2 wood duck feathers tied in bend of the feather down..For the length you want the tip of the feather back behind the bend of the hook at least the 1.5x the body size.
There are Gazillions of Apple Caddis coming off now on the D..
May the force be with you.
Thursthouse
Tight Loins
Got any pics Obi Wan? The two wood duck feather tail is throwing me off..sounds like a hell of a tail
JOE.T
Dry Flies Only
Sorry let me clarify.I'm always think tails with mayflies.
The wood duck is imitating legs..You want to tie the 2 wood duck feathers in right behind the eye bend down, before you tie in any wings.
I'm having trouble uploading the pic, if you want pm your cell or email and I'll send you a couple pics.
Joe
