2016 Spring reservoir levels

[TR]

Well, with not 2-3 inches of rain, but over 4 and a half inches between Feb. and Mar. the reservoirs are SURE to spill. AND given these warm temperatures predicted for the next few weeks to melt all the accumulated snow...
Wait a sec... all that snow fell as rain throughout the winter and was so wonderful in putting the reservoirs in such great shape...

I guess they should be spilling yesterday...


There are a few weeks left before April 1; I suppose anything could happen...
I'm betting the reservoirs go DOWN before they go up...

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FFMP charts are provided for you.

As you can see, NYC DEP has been releasing a constant 1,500cfs out of Cannonsville for the past month.

Prior to FFMP, they did not.

I believe that this is to create a 10% "void" so, yes, we had near four inches of rainfall in February in the Catskills but do to the fact that Cannonsville was over 95%, {L1-a Zone - See Graph} NYC DEP began dumping for the past month.

Without the steady 1,500 dump, Cannonsville would've spilled since it registered close to 98% two weeks ago.

Tight lines.
TR

 

[Future Fanatic]

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FFMP charts are provided for you.

As you can see, NYC DEP has been releasing a constant 1,500cfs out of Cannonsville for the past month.

Prior to FFMP, they did not.

I believe that this is to create a 10% "void" so, yes, we had near four inches of rainfall in February in the Catskills but do to the fact that Cannonsville was over 95%, {L1-a Zone - See Graph} NYC DEP began dumping for the past month.

Without the steady 1,500 dump, Cannonsville would've spilled since it registered close to 98% two weeks ago.

Tight lines.
TR
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Oh.
So when you posted that the reservoirs would spill before April 1 you had forgotten about the 1500cfs release when Cannonsville approached full, during April.
Got it.
Or are you sayin' that technically they are "spilling"?

So are they gonna spill in MAY?

 

[TR]

Oh.
So when you posted that the reservoirs would spill before April 1 you had forgotten about the 1500cfs release when Cannonsville approached full, during April.
Got it.
Or are you sayin' that technically they are "spilling"?

So are they gonna spill in MAY?

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Hi John.

From FFMP:

L1-b March through April - i.e., Cannonsville storage at 90 to 100% (which is where we are now).


Release:

400cfs {no FAW} to 700cfs {100mgd FAW} release at Cannonsville depending on FAW


200cfs {no FAW} to 475cfs {100mgd FAW} after May 1st.

Releasing a lot of water (1,500cf) when they should be conserving it.
Reason? They want to create a "void" eventhough we haven't had any snowpack for the whole winter!


Holding back water when they should be releasing it except, of course, when they f*** up and
have to release 1,500cfs in July. Right. Like last summer.
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I remember the sawbellies...the sweet oily sawbellies. I could smell their fragrance all the way into Hancock.

 

[Big_Spinner]

Hi All,

So much for spilling before April 1st.

John was correct, the reservoirs have gone down since early March.

NYC probably regretting agreeing to the aggressive spill mitigation program through the winter.

I hate that all the nice cold, clear winter storage is released for spill mitigation.

Anyone going to Roscoe this weekend for the festivities? May see you there.

Jim

 

[TR]

Hi All,

NYC probably regretting agreeing to the aggressive spill mitigation program through the winter.

I hate that all the nice cold, clear winter storage is released for spill mitigation.

Jim

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Hello Jim.

Was that part of the FFMP plan to release 1,500cfs from Cannonsville throughout February and most of March eventhough there was no snowpack thus no risk of flooding?

I can understand a release of that amount IF there was snowpack, but The Plan doesn't take into consideration NO snowpack such as we experienced this past winter.

That was water which could have been used later in the year as opposed to pissing it away.

Currently, they've dropped Cannonsville to under 200cfs and the storage is 91.6%.

We had better hope for some decent rain this spring. If not, you'll have 30 boats fishing the Main Stem in a few weeks.

Also - I read FUDR statement to be presented this coming Tuesday at PPL.

They want a 600cfs cap from water releases from Cannonsville and increased releases from Pepacton and Neversink?

I would assume that is to appease their membership on the East Branch from Downsville down to Harvard / Shinhopple since after the Beaverkill dumps into the EB during July and August - that too is warm water.

Not sure Thom Murphy from NYC DEP will go along with that one - especially since that is better water for drinking.

See you on Tuesday.

TR

 

[TR]

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I can understand a release of that amount IF there was snowpack, but The Plan doesn't take into consideration NO snowpack such as we experienced this past winter.

That was water which could have been used later in the year as opposed to pissing it away.

Currently, they've dropped Cannonsville to under 200cfs and the storage is 91.6%.

TR

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USGS chart / Stillesville (WB Del R) for 3/31/16 is attached.

 

[Big_Spinner]

Hi TR,

Completely agree with you!

NYC continues to play the system and no one is saying anything about it.

Also, the flood risk needs to be reassessed at times like this and common sense should prevail. When there is no snow pack and very little inflow, it makes no sense to release 1500 or even 500.

Hopefully your voice will be heard on the 5th.

We urge everyone that can make it to get to the RFAC meeting at the PPL center in Hawley on the 5th.

Jim

 

[Future Fanatic]

John was correct...

It can be a curse...