I was there again yeaterday and still nothing...im getting worried about my browns.

So i pulled up to the D&H canal and there were a bunch (8-10) of locals (ranging from 18-mid twenties) one was pregnant and smoking cigs like a fiend. so i get there and politly move well down stream and on a small rock bar close to the middle. Out of no where they start throwing rocks at me in the water im fishing. They started getting closer and closer and i wouldnt even bat them an eye. They saw me catch a fish and were saying ohh he caught a fish! i get it in and its a chub and they start laughing. (my girlfriend is with my btw watching this) so the rocks keep coming and i keep ignoring these white trash mofos. untill a snake (posionous looking one) comes down the current and almsot brushes past me. He wanted that rock bar i was on to sun himself. so now i got more rocks and they're tyring to piss off the snake. so finally i politely turn and say "could you please stop throing rocks in this direction?" they acknowledge and almsot immeditally the rocks start again. so after another 10 mins or so i turn and say. "one more rock im calling the police" they acknowledge again and again the rocks kept flying. so i pulled out my cell and started to call and they all started to leave. So i said "im calling them right now ur gonna have a mess on your hands if u dont stop" and they're saying stuff like "f you" and "we're leaving". so isaid "you're liable to hit me in the head knock me out and into the river and then u have a huge mess on your hands, dont you idiots understand" they didnt just kep sayin f you and what now, then they walked to their house on the same road. (we had to pass them on the way out and we gave them the finger)

NOW WHAT I DONT GET. All those upstate communities are extremely impovrished and constantly complain "theres no money up here, were all on welfare". You throw rocks at flyfishermen, the literal base of the economy, and one of the few things keeping towns like yours from sinking now adays. I love new york and love the people, but some of them really disappoint me. If lets say i was from the city and have never been there before, i would never go back to cuddebackville ever again because of the whole situation. Im going to steer away from there and hit more trouty water up stream the rest of the summer.

I know its a turn around from my usual attitude of "stay away from my neversink gorge" but this season im going to urge everyone to go there and help me find my missing browns.....

Catskill Mountain Man said:

NOW WHAT I DONT GET. All those upstate communities are extremely impovrished and constantly complain "theres no money up here, were all on welfare". You throw rocks at flyfishermen, the literal base of the economy, and one of the few things keeping towns like yours from sinking now adays.

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Orange County? You think you buying a burger at McDonalds when you are in town is propping up the economy there? Fishing is WAY down on the list of economic boosts, but I'm sure these ruffians could pick up on your attitude... "step aside locals... I am here with my magic wand to flail away your economic woes" and THAT is why they threw rocks.

If I was there, I'd throw a rock at you, too.

I hope you jacked but good next time you come to Paterson. The locals there feel the same way about out-of-towners and they can smell your bad attitude as well as anyone from cuddebackville.

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I was in the Gorge on Sunday. Two of us each caught a small brown and lost a big one.

I don't think CMM was out of line asking the group to stop throwing rocks or calling them idiots, which they were acting like. Also, trout fishing may not turn around a semi-rural economy, but it doesn't hurt to have people stopping at diners or buying gas along the way. The bottom line is that CMM was just trying to fish and these delinquents interferred and harassed him, which in most states is against the law. The older I get the less tolerant I am of this type of bullcrap and stay far away from areas and people where these incidents are likely to occur.

agree with njpatbee. why you guys busting on cmm? what would you do if some unruly kids threw rocks at you? jeez.

they'd throw grenades if it was you

There are certain people that rub locals the wrong way.

actually, most flatlanders rub ALL locals the wrong way but as AK pointed out, sometimes the locals act out, sometimes they keep it bottled up and go home and beat the kids and dog instead of chunking rocks at visiting fly anglers.

Fran betters was a jackass back home that inspired rock throwing a good dozen times, one time the local boys threw rocks at him even after he got back to his house. He earned it.

Lee wulff was another that inspired rock chunking.
Wulff fished the battenkill like it was his own private waters, making perkins today look like a robin hood by comparision, Frank Snow who was manager of the fish hatchery for many decades is still alive and he will recall as well as I do how Wulff would throw sticks and rocks at the local boys to make them leave the stream--fishing the battenkill was for MEN, not local riff raff and certainly not for kids....and like betters on the Ausable years later, the locals would chunk rocks into all the pools ahead of Wulff and at him if they got a good bead on him. Again he earned that.

Did you earn or deserve the rocks? I don't know. I wasnt there, and I ahve no idea the type of person you are, but I'd like to think you did NOT deserve rocks hurled at you.

That said===

If you walk up to the creek and the locals are playing in the water and relaxing in their own fashion, and you think about wading in there and taking your own space, well, there oughta be a little light flickering in the corner of your eye lighting up the Self-Preservation sign...if there isn't well I guess that's natural selection and good luck to you fella.

be a shame though to drag your girlfriend into it...

Simple rule:

Throw a rock at me and you get your ass kicked. No questions asked.

These rock throwers are ridiculous.

Just ask CMM.

One hit to the head, and, well, you're CMM.

golden beetle said:

These rock throwers are ridiculous.

Just ask CMM.

One hit to the head, and, well, you're CMM.

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must have been quite a rock for just one to do all that, only David could throw a rock with such precision.

Which grenades are we talk'n 'bout? Jersey Shore Grenades or warefare grenades?

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Trouser Trout said:

Simple rule:

Throw a rock at me and you get your ass kicked. No questions asked.

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Amen to that.

Simms said:

Which grenades are we talk'n 'bout? Jersey Shore Grenades or warefare grenades? .

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Certainly something more potent than the "f-bombs" thrown at CMM.

It only takes one rock and one pissed off fisherman with a .45 to rewrite this story. River Rage, the next epidemic.

that was just Elton & Susie having fun holdin' hands and skippin' stones...

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that was just Elton & Susie having fun holdin' hands and skippin' stones...

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EJ was my first concert. Woke up 4am and walked to downtown Elizabeth where I stood in line at Tickettron to get tickets to the Garden. Guess how much for 2 tickets. I think it was 1984. I went with my mother (I think that was the only thing we ever did together other than me passing through while she was giving birth. )

He was amazing too. He came out wearing some ridiculous angel costume, played the piano frontwards, backwards, upside down, absolutely incredible.

the responses im getting are not what i expected. you can all go fuck your self. im out of this pop stand. this site went down hill with the introduction of you know who. i dont need and of your opinions and snide remarks.

and beetle if for some reason some how possible i get a hint or a passing word at a bar resembling a golden beetle i will follow that lead and if it brings me to you you will rue the day. because my old pic with the blue fish is just that an old pic... ive been working out . but on a serious note if i some how run into you i will throw you through a wall

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the guys on gst are just nicer to deal with

AKSkim said:

Three hours of nothing but HITS.

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But how was the music?

Catskill Mountain Man said:

the responses im getting are not what i expected. you can all go fuck your self.

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What kind of language is that of a catholic school boy? Was that the warehouse prep course?

and beetle if for some reason some how possible i get a hint or a passing word at a bar resembling a golden beetle i will follow that lead and if it brings me to you you will rue the day. because my old pic with the blue fish is just that an old pic... ive been working out . but on a serious note if i some how run into you i will throw you through a wall

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My money is on the Beetle. You've seen him giving a bear hug, haven't you? You don't stand a chance.

the guys on gst are just nicer to deal with

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you might be onto something here but they aren't as entertaining, that's for sure. Then again, once you leave, we'll have to go back to making fun of the usual people. Hey... goto GST, they'll tell you how mean we are over here and they'll all agree with everything you have to say.

Catskill Mountain Man said:

the responses im getting are not what i expected. you can all go fuck your self. im out of this pop stand. this site went down hill with the introduction of you know who. i dont need and of your opinions and snide remarks.

and beetle if for some reason some how possible i get a hint or a passing word at a bar resembling a golden beetle i will follow that lead and if it brings me to you you will rue the day. because my old pic with the blue fish is just that an old pic... ive been working out . but on a serious note if i some how run into you i will throw you through a wall

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the guys on gst are just nicer to deal with

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CMM would definitely kick my ass.

I am but a little dwarf with stubby fingers...

And CMM has a SOOPER POWER............

RETARD STRENGTH!

Catskill Mountain Man said:

the responses im getting are not what i expected. you can all go fuck your self. im out of this pop stand. this site went down hill with the introduction of you know who. i dont need and of your opinions and snide remarks.

and beetle if for some reason some how possible i get a hint or a passing word at a bar resembling a golden beetle i will follow that lead and if it brings me to you you will rue the day. because my old pic with the blue fish is just that an old pic... ive been working out . but on a serious note if i some how run into you i will throw you through a wall

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I'm with you CMM the beetle's got it comming!!! If you ever meet him i think you should get completely get naked, and give him a nude beating, can't be anything more humiliating than that. If anybody deserves it's him. I think the only way you two could run into each other is if one of you gets on on the wrong short yellow bus than you are supposed to.

GST is for cry baby's!! Seriously though that place is the powerbait/panther martin club.
CMM, Dont let the beetle push you out. (you have seen the pic of him right?????) Nothing to be scared of......
Sorry those mutants threw rocks at you. You will have the last laugh one day.

I have posted a link of the beetle pic just incase you haven't seen it.
http://www.njflyfishing.com/vBullet...dennis-cabarle-beetle-go-fishing-dsc_5678.jpg

not for nothing but I wouldn't stand there as they continue to throw rocks at me. I would have either A. confronted the people the first rock they threw or I would have called the police much earlier.

Fucking yokels though. I hope the pregnant mother has a stillborn baby.

HeadlessVerseman said:

not for nothing but I wouldn't stand there as they continue to throw rocks at me. I would have either A. confronted the people the first rock they threw or I would have called the police much earlier.

Fucking yokels though. I hope the pregnant mother has a stillborn baby.

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i fucking love this guy.
I was gonna say "you should of kicked her in the gut" but............
Damn bro, nice one!!

I thought about it more than you think Ak- I thought about the baby being born, and then a couple years later she is out with her white trash family in a nice get together. They are sitting down for a nice picnic of mayo sandwiches, hot dogs, kool aid, and whatever beer is on sale, only to see a fly fisherman in THEIR river. Thats when daddy shows he's been sipping more then that .49 cent can of beer, and starts throwing rocks at the fly fisherman, and his party starts hootin' and hollerin'. The Jim Beam is making Daddy's blood a bit angry, and he throws another stone, only to hit the fly fisherman in the head. Cheers explode, and the slurred echoes can be heard 1/2 mile down river. Daddy says "Now Darling, isn't Daddy a sure shot?", and his kid smiles a wide, toothless smile and starts laughing. Skip ahead a few years, and little "Darling" is now a meth addict, tweaking by the river side and sees a fly fisherman. She approaches the naive fly fisherman, and he is receptive because Darling is dressed like Daddy's little whore. She walks up to the fly fisherman, smiles, and smashes his skull in with a rock. As the limp body drops into the river, she pulls out a handle of jim beam, drinks that last swig in the bottle, and smashes the bottle on the fly fisherman's bleeding melon. She then says, "Daddy", in tribute now, because Daddy hit the pipe a little too hard, "I'm your little sure shot".


Is that what you want AK?

HeadlessVerseman said:

I thought about it more than you think Ak- I thought about the baby being born, and then a couple years later she is out with her white trash family in a nice get together. They are sitting down for a nice picnic of mayo sandwiches, hot dogs, kool aid, and whatever beer is on sale, only to see a fly fisherman in THEIR river. Thats when daddy shows he's been sipping more then that .49 cent can of beer, and starts throwing rocks at the fly fisherman, and his party starts hootin' and hollerin'. The Jim Beam is making Daddy's blood a bit angry, and he throws another stone, only to hit the fly fisherman in the head. Cheers explode, and the slurred echoes can be heard 1/2 mile down river. Daddy says "Now Darling, isn't Daddy a sure shot?", and his kid smiles a wide, toothless smile and starts laughing. Skip ahead a few years, and little "Darling" is now a meth addict, tweaking by the river side and sees a fly fisherman. She approaches the naive fly fisherman, and he is receptive because Darling is dressed like Daddy's little whore. She walks up to the fly fisherman, smiles, and smashes his skull in with a rock. As the limp body drops into the river, she pulls out a handle of jim beam, drinks that last swig in the bottle, and smashes the bottle on the fly fisherman's bleeding melon. She then says, "Daddy", in tribute now, because Daddy hit the pipe a little too hard, "I'm your little sure shot".


Is that what you want AK?

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Holy Shit... I know that is a prophecy..... how can we stop it???

HeadlessVerseman said:

I thought about it more than you think Ak- I thought about the baby being born, and then a couple years later she is out with her white trash family in a nice get together. They are sitting down for a nice picnic of mayo sandwiches, hot dogs, kool aid, and whatever beer is on sale, only to see a fly fisherman in THEIR river. Thats when daddy shows he's been sipping more then that .49 cent can of beer, and starts throwing rocks at the fly fisherman, and his party starts hootin' and hollerin'. The Jim Beam is making Daddy's blood a bit angry, and he throws another stone, only to hit the fly fisherman in the head. Cheers explode, and the slurred echoes can be heard 1/2 mile down river. Daddy says "Now Darling, isn't Daddy a sure shot?", and his kid smiles a wide, toothless smile and starts laughing. Skip ahead a few years, and little "Darling" is now a meth addict, tweaking by the river side and sees a fly fisherman. She approaches the naive fly fisherman, and he is receptive because Darling is dressed like Daddy's little whore. She walks up to the fly fisherman, smiles, and smashes his skull in with a rock. As the limp body drops into the river, she pulls out a handle of jim beam, drinks that last swig in the bottle, and smashes the bottle on the fly fisherman's bleeding melon. She then says, "Daddy", in tribute now, because Daddy hit the pipe a little too hard, "I'm your little sure shot".


Is that what you want AK?

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He's definitely a "verseman." Quite a tale...

But with extra emphasis on "headless."

Another example of your maturity, you went with the most preschool level, predictable "diss", that came into your sad little mind. I feel sad for you, knowing you are trapped in a reality where your delusional mind thinks you are the smartest, wittiest person on earth when in all actuality, your brain is barely evolved to that of a knuckle-dragging baboon.

HeadlessVerseman said:

Another example of your maturity, you went with the most preschool level, predictable "diss", that came into your sad little mind. I feel sad for you, knowing you are trapped in a reality where your delusional mind thinks you are the smartest, wittiest person on earth when in all actuality, your brain is barely evolved to that of a knuckle-dragging baboon.

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I'm more of a Pat Boone or Debbie Boone fan......or even Aaron.... On a day like today I pass the time away writing love letters in the sand...... GB, you light up my life.... no matter what he says....

Let me take a moment to compliment you sincerely.

Your story was good.

Especially the part about "daddys little whore" taking a handle of
Jim beam, and smashing over the bleeding skull of your hero, the fly fisherman.

Let me suggest for you one helpful shift in the plot....

Perhaps you could name your hero catskill mountain man?

And add a scene at the beginnning where he is hit in the head with a rock. Have him go to the hospital, and get a cat scan that reveals brain damage...

Then, have him forget that the slutty daughter was there when daddy hit him with the rock, causing the brain damage in the first place.

That would add irony, which, as you must know, is a fine literary device....

Whatsayou to my changes, verseman?

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Another example of your maturity, you went with the most preschool level, predictable "diss", that came into your sad little mind. I feel sad for you, knowing you are trapped in a reality where your delusional mind thinks you are the smartest, wittiest person on earth when in all actuality, your brain is barely evolved to that of a knuckle-dragging baboon.

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it'll play i suppose.