There's two kind of people in the world.....

[klg neighbor]

Since it is the slow season for trout and all that is currently being posted is about the snaggers and lifters in some crowded place, I thought the rest of us can have some fun while we wait for some real fishing reports.

I always wonder how this statement would be finished. How do you answer it when you read it? For AK, he would probably answers it like this:

"There's two kind of people in this world....those that love me and those that...., who am I kidding, everyone loves me."

Since I am an engineer I always see:

"There's 10 kind of people in this world....those that understand binary and those that don't".

How do you finish this statement?

 

[Stonefly]

There are two kinds of people in this world, those I care deep about and those that could use a .45 acp just above the nose.

 

[dcabarle]

Then there's me:

0100100100100000011000010110110100100000010001110110111101100100001000010010000100100001

But I'm sure you already knew that.

 

[onemorecast]

Then there's me:

0100100100100000011000010110110100100000010001110110111101100100001000010010000100100001

But I'm sure you already knew that.

I believe you've reminded us of that on more than one occasion. But thanks again for this latest reminder.

 

[FishsEddie]

There really are three types of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.

 

[klg neighbor]

Then there's me:

0100100100100000011000010110110100100000010001110110111101100100001000010010000100100001

But I'm sure you already knew that.

01001001001000000111010001101000011011110111010101100111011010000111010000100000010000010100101101010011011010110111010101101101001000000111011101100001011100110010000001100111011011110110010000101110

 

[Andy B]

Being an Engineer I believe that Binary is antiquated along with Octal, Hexadecimal is good but IPv6 is best. To long of a string is just boring and way to meaningless. I think it's time for you to get up to technology speed KLG.

 

[Burtbords149]

Glad to see so many engineers here flyfishing. Lee Wulff was an engineer and I'm studying to be one as well.

 

[dcabarle]

Being an Engineer I believe that Binary is antiquated along with Octal, Hexadecimal is good but IPv6 is best. To long of a string is just boring and way to meaningless. I think it's time for you to get up to technology speed KLG.

It might be painful to look at but Binary is the core of any electronic device, not limited to computers. Even Hex and IPv6 can be broken down into binary.

 

[Joe D]

Getting back to the original thread:


"There's two kind of people in this world... those that fish, and those that don't"

 

[klg neighbor]

Being an Engineer I believe that Binary is antiquated along with Octal, Hexadecimal is good but IPv6 is best. To long of a string is just boring and way to meaningless. I think it's time for you to get up to technology speed KLG.

It's still packets of ones and zeros when you get to the quantum level, but you probably wouldn't understand that. It's like trying to tell someone about long division and not talk about pushing buttons on the calculator.

Behind the technology, or I should say, supporting the IPv6 technology is a whole world of binary.

 

[klg neighbor]

It might be painful to look at but Binary is the core of any electronic device, not limited to computers. Even Hex and IPv6 can be broken down into binary.

Thanks Dennis. if I could re-phrase your statement: All Hex and IPv6 is broken down into binary when we're talking about computer communication.

 

[Andy B]

Actually Binary really came about in it place when the first computor on Vacuum tubes was contstructed. It was easier and faster for a coumputer to work in Binary than it was in Decimal. Now yes, Octal is a hierchy of Binary when seprated into groups of three, Hex again is Binary and seprated into groups of four, also don't forget at one time quinary was used for some counters. Now into todays world IPv4 is binary but in dotted decimal notation and even further IPV6 in Hex. So the way I look at it, you can try to figure out what a very long cumbersome bit stream is in Binary or you can quickly and effiently use Octal or Hexadecimal. Sounds almost like the first Micro Processor for comercial use which was the 8080 and next the 8085 followed by the Z80 up to now Gigabit speed.

 

[MACFLY]

Being an Engineer I believe that Binary is antiquated along with Octal, Hexadecimal is good but IPv6 is best. To long of a string is just boring and way to meaningless. I think it's time for you to get up to technology speed KLG.

IPV6 is an overrated concept mostly being applied to DOD and Far East Asia at this point. The viability of Private addressing along with Network address traversal appliances along with supernetting at layer 3 allows for the conitnued use of IPV4.

However IPv6 does have useful applications in the area of nanotechnology specifically in the area of applying computational math and parallel computing theory in the area of BIOpharmacutical testing applications during the drug development process. In addition it can be quite useful in the buildout of the interstellar IP network that is currently in development.....oops I think I just let the cat out of the bag

 

[dcabarle]

IPV6 is an overrated concept mostly being applied to DOD and Far East Asia at this point. The viability of Private addressing along with Network address traversal appliances along with supernetting at layer 3 allows for the conitnued use of IPV4.

However IPv6 does have useful applications in the area of nanotechnology specifically in the area of applying computational math and parallel computing theory in the area of BIOpharmacutical testing applications during the drug development process. In addition it can be quite useful in the buildout of the interstellar IP network that is currently in development.....oops I think I just let the cat out of the bag

Uhhhhh... yeah, what he said.

 

[Andy B]

Actually IPv6 is being looked at in the Company I work for and will be deployed later this year. It still will use an IPv4 fail back with and IPv4 stack. Also seeing this talked about alot in the SCTE which I am a member of. Now IPv6 once a company feels very comfortable with this technology will then remove the IPv4 Stack and fail safe back up as well. You will see this truly happening in the cable industry with the release of DOCSIS 3.0.

 

[Burtbords149]

I take it no one on here got there degree in mechanical engineering? That's where the beauty lies my friends.

 

[klg neighbor]

It's still ones and zeros when it hits the microprocessors. All other languages just makes it simplier to understand, but all are processed as ones and zeros.

For IPV6 it 128 bits, for IPV4 its 32 bits

 

[klg neighbor]

There's two kind of people in the world - the ones that divide the world
into two kinds of people, and the ones who don't.

 

[Burtbords149]

There's two kind of people in the world - the ones that divide the world
into two kinds of people, and the ones who don't.

Well said...end of thread...no rhyme intended.

 

[Joe D]

Actually IPv6 is being looked at in the Company I work for and will be deployed later this year. It still will use an IPv4 fail back with and IPv4 stack. Also seeing this talked about alot in the SCTE which I am a member of. Now IPv6 once a company feels very comfortable with this technology will then remove the IPv4 Stack and fail safe back up as well. You will see this truly happening in the cable industry with the release of DOCSIS 3.0.

Andy,

Does any of this have anything to do with lashing fur and feathers to hooks?

 

[quality time]

There's two kinds of people in this world....the geeks that know what this thread is about, and the rest of us.

 

[lufcus]

There's two kinds of people in this world....the geeks that know what this thread is about, and the rest of us.


We have a winner!!

 

[lufcus]

There's two kinds of people in this world, the ones that go out to fish and explorer, and the ones that are just waiting for death.

 

[MACFLY]

Actually IPv6 is being looked at in the Company I work for and will be deployed later this year. It still will use an IPv4 fail back with and IPv4 stack. Also seeing this talked about alot in the SCTE which I am a member of. Now IPv6 once a company feels very comfortable with this technology will then remove the IPv4 Stack and fail safe back up as well. You will see this truly happening in the cable industry with the release of DOCSIS 3.0.

Oh dont get me wrong...its gona happen.....its just not necessary for the reasons I mentioned previously. Sure folks will implement Dual IP stacks and then you will implement ICE or ICE lite to handle negotiation of IPV4 or V6 sessions. If you are in a large organization you will likely have to implement a TURN server to do negotiation between islands of IPV4 and IPV6 where dual stack is not possible In the end you will migrate all the way to IPV6 to what benefit. You will get an extra 96 bits which provides in theory some as of yet unquantifiable advantage. Trust me the general user of computers could care less and likely wont know. IPV6 is useful in only a fraction of applications (important ones but certainly the most common). As KLG states...its all ones and zeroes....Thats all for now.. Im officially turning on my loopback address. Night folks.

 

[Corndog]

"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not the fish they are after." Henry David Thoreau

"Fishing is not so much getting fish as it is a state of mind, a lure for the human soul into refreshment." Herbert Hoover

There's two kinds of people in the world...those who have arrived and those who haven't gotten there yet.

Cdog

 

[klg neighbor]

"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not the fish they are after." Henry David Thoreau

"Fishing is not so much getting fish as it is a state of mind, a lure for the human soul into refreshment." Herbert Hoover

There's two kinds of people in the world...those who have arrived and those who haven't gotten there yet.

Cdog

Which would you rather be, the one that has arrived or the one still on the journey?

For me, it's the journey for whence you have arrived, what else is there?

 

[Corndog]

For me...I'm still on the journey cause I haven't fully realized that I've arrived...or have I???

When it comes to fly fishing trout streams, I've reached the point where it's not only about catching fish. I enjoy being outdoors, watching the wildlife, observing trout feeding habits, the challenge of finding what they are feeding on, etc. There's so much more to fishing than catching every trout in the river. On some trips I just sit on the bank and watch the trout rise. Never making a cast at them. That's when I learn the most. I was watching this trout in the BFB one day, and every time he rose it was to his left. He was taking tiny brown flying ants. He would let the ones on his right float by. This had me perplexed. I must have watched him rise 50 times, then decided to cast to him. I got him on my second drift...he was blind in his right eye. Funny how I remember that fish more than any other fish I caught that year.

I don't mind being out caught anymore. I enjoy watching someone else fight and land a fish almost as much as catching one myself. I've taken friends to the BFB and didn't even take my rod out of the case cause I wanted to put them on fish and help them learn the river.

Someone mentioned the other day, I think it was AK, that standing on the bank chatting with a fellow angler is as enjoyable as fishing some days...I would have to agree.

Cdog

 

[Andy B]

Joe D:

1's and 0' do apply to fly tying. A one means I am dubbing and a two means I am using floss. OO = Wet fly, 01= woolly bugger, 10=Streamer and lastly 11 = Salmon fly.


There are two kinds of people in this world, people who makes things happen and people who wonder what just happened.

Enough of this thread already, time to tye flies and go fishing, can we all agree on that.

 

[Corndog]

Joe D:

1's and 0' do apply to fly tying. A one means I am dubbing and a two means I am using floss. OO = Wet fly, 01= woolly bugger, 10=Streamer and lastly 11 = Salmon fly.


There are two kinds of people in this world, people who makes things happen and people who wonder what just happened.

Enough of this thread already, time to tye flies and go fishing, can we all agree on that.

Great idea Andy! I'm outa here.

Cdog