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Salmon River Report 2009

That's where I will be Friday. Catching trout on the surface...not snaggin them on the bottom.

Cdog

I'm still debating whether to run up to the Ausable and tent camp at Wilmington Notch State Campground. All the cottages at Wilderness Inn are booked solid thru Colombus Day weekend (damn leaf peepers.) I was think about trying to camp at Woodland Valley too, never fished the Esopus and I love catching rainbow trout. Beaverkill has good campground to, no?
 
I'm still debating whether to run up to the Ausable and tent camp at Wilmington Notch State Campground. All the cottages at Wilderness Inn are booked solid thru Colombus Day weekend (damn leaf peepers.) I was think about trying to camp at Woodland Valley too, never fished the Esopus and I love catching rainbow trout. Beaverkill has good campground to, no?

Have you stayed at the Wilmington Notch Campground before?

It's like camping at a highway rest stop.

I'm going up to the SR on Saturday to help "guide" some rookies with spin gear. I'll get a few beers and lunch at Yous Guys Place so it won't be all bad. The horde of goons, though. Yeesh.
 
Day 2

Fished DSR section again. I'm not a pro but seems to be that it was a slow day. Landed 2 Kings (I had zero lead on my fly line; mend; mend and mend again)
 
Number of times CTOBIAS has floated the SR since the fish have begun running 0. Number of fish that have been hooked in his boat since they have been running, well over 40. Times he has had to deal with goons, twice.

Getting over ten pounds of skein and being too tired to work the next day.
PRICELESS


On another note, I will be out fishing with the goons this weekend. Not by choice, but rather because I am a good friend and am willing to bear the crowds. On another note, there are other bodies of water fishing better than the salmon river, but this guys not telling, but he will be there next week. Have fun on the salmon. Is it steelhead season yet???!!!!
 
I'm still debating whether to run up to the Ausable and tent camp at Wilmington Notch State Campground. All the cottages at Wilderness Inn are booked solid thru Colombus Day weekend (damn leaf peepers.) I was think about trying to camp at Woodland Valley too, never fished the Esopus and I love catching rainbow trout. Beaverkill has good campground to, no?

I've stayed at the Roscoe Campsites which is right on the river and the Beaverkill Campground (State run) on the Little Beaverkill. Both a decent campgrounds.

Cdog
 
Have you stayed at the Wilmington Notch Campground before?

It's like camping at a highway rest stop.

I'm going up to the SR on Saturday to help "guide" some rookies with spin gear. I'll get a few beers and lunch at Yous Guys Place so it won't be all bad. The horde of goons, though. Yeesh.

I haven't stayed there but I know it's right next to Route 86, we pass by it many times on our way back and forth from where I normally stay- The Wilderness Inn II. But as I said it's booked solid with leaf peepers right now, so options are limited. I only need a place to pitch a tent and crash at night, I don't plan to hang out all day because I'll be out fishing.
 
I've stayed at the Roscoe Campsites which is right on the river and the Beaverkill Campground (State run) on the Little Beaverkill. Both a decent campgrounds.

Cdog

I'm sure the state-run sites don't allow you to bring a couple six packs? I'm torn on whether to run all the way up to the ADKs and camp in the expected rain. I've never, ever fished the Esopus and have wanted to, might give Woodland Valley a call. Or I may just say the heck with it and do a few day trips in the Catskills and just keep the tent and gear in the truck in case I decide to stay someplace after fishing. All I know is I want to do something in NY this weekend, get the last bang out of my '09 license money before I have to shell out $70 in October. Friggin decisions, decisions!:)
 
Late report

Yesterday was very slow at DSR. Managed to find 2 small pockets full of fish. After few hook up's both of the times left due to other fishermans that started trowing lead in the fish.

PS
Both of the times as "soo long suckers" performed ripping trough the pocket with heavy fly without the hook to spook the fish
 
Late report

Yesterday was very slow at DSR. Managed to find 2 small pockets full of fish. After few hook up's both of the times left due to other fishermans that started trowing lead in the fish.

PS
Both of the times as "soo long suckers" performed ripping trough the pocket with heavy fly without the hook to spook the fish


Hey drumik,

If you get into salmon on the Salmon River it's a good day. The goons just come with the season...consider them part of the ambiance. Gives you something to laugh about and shake your head at. Makes for some great stories telling.

Cdog
 
Hey drumik,

If you get into salmon on the Salmon River it's a good day. The goons just come with the season...consider them part of the ambiance. Gives you something to laugh about and shake your head at. Makes for some great stories telling.

Cdog

Like the guy I saw at the UFZ yesterday with his spinning rod and a fly reel attached to it.

Whatevs.

Anyway, the hatchery is chock full of cohos and nothing but cohos. Must be thousands. The river is full goons chasing after a couple of hundred half-dead kings that are spread throughout the river. The kings I saw being hooked in the UFZ, I think, are the same ones that came in with the Labor day weekend release. Maybe a couple of slightly fresher ones, but they're all ready to die.

I don't think the kings have really run yet and that plus this rain and cold weather coming, the push this week could be spectacular. Of course I could be wrong.
 
Like the guy I saw at the UFZ yesterday with his spinning rod and a fly reel attached to it.

Whatevs.

Anyway, the hatchery is chock full of cohos and nothing but cohos. Must be thousands. The river is full goons chasing after a couple of hundred half-dead kings that are spread throughout the river. The kings I saw being hooked in the UFZ, I think, are the same ones that came in with the Labor day weekend release. Maybe a couple of slightly fresher ones, but they're all ready to die.

I don't think the kings have really run yet and that plus this rain and cold weather coming, the push this week could be spectacular. Of course I could be wrong.

Still a butt load of fish out there to come in. Heading out tonight to fish the mouth again. River was packed this weekend. Trestle, sportsman, and all the other big pools had the majority of fish, as well as people. GOON FEST 2009!
 
For whatever reason, I am going up again on Wednesday. I usually am off the river come now and don't go back until the 4th week in October. I was lucky enough to be on the river last Wednesday for the Coho run, the insanity is too addictive!!!:smiley-sniffer:

Drumik........aren't the goons great!!!!
 
Like the guy I saw at the UFZ yesterday with his spinning rod and a fly reel attached to it.

Whatevs.

Anyway, the hatchery is chock full of cohos and nothing but cohos. Must be thousands. The river is full goons chasing after a couple of hundred half-dead kings that are spread throughout the river. The kings I saw being hooked in the UFZ, I think, are the same ones that came in with the Labor day weekend release. Maybe a couple of slightly fresher ones, but they're all ready to die.

I don't think the kings have really run yet and that plus this rain and cold weather coming, the push this week could be spectacular. Of course I could be wrong.



I saw this guy to I guess if it works for you. Did not see him catch a fish though. Fished from the snags all the way up to the fly zone had fish every where I fished. Caught 20 or so nice cohos to 34" many browns and a couple of atlantics one nice steelhead and some kings. Was intrigued by the 2 guys on the south side of the river in the fly zone though sat. and sunday across from the spinning rod guy not many fish being caught by anyone. These two guys stepped in and started hooking up consistantly with in minutes of their arrival. And continued all day long catching and landing numerous fish as everyone else watched was quite the show they put on everyone I talked to was amazed at the way they where hamering the fish. I'm getting back up this week as there is a huge run of fish coming the next couple of day's have some great secret spots that I fish with confidence and rarely see a soul and do very well.Good luck to all that come up and by all means have yourself some fun the trip will be what you make of it.
 
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You must use the peanut butter spawn fly and talk like a russian then you will hook and catch fish. It was sick how we hit them and the more suprising part was everyone saw what we did saturday and when we arrived sunday mid morning knowone was fishing that side go figure.:nose-picking:
 
I have a favor to ask of anybody currently in the pulaski area that would be kind enough to help out. I'm heading up there this weekend, however due to poor planning on my part, I waited too long and all the online passes to the DSR are sold out for 10/3. I was hoping somebody in the area could purchase three presale passes tomorrow, for saturday. I would pay you back fully, and then some. I'd be extremely appreciative if anyone could help me out. If you want to help you can shoot me a PM, email me, or give me a call. Connoroneillcole@gmail.com 908-642-1269
Thanks, Connor
 
OH SHIT:beingsick:

Be there in 3 hours. :beingsick::beingsick::beingsick::beingsick::beingsick:
 
I waited too long and all the online passes to the DSR are sold out for 10/3. I was hoping somebody in the area could purchase three presale passes tomorrow, for saturday.


FU_K the DSR!!! There are too many fish in the river for you to waste 30 bucks on fish. The mouth has slowed down which only means one thing. The ain runs have pushed and you need to be mid river and up. Have fun spending your money on the DSR.
 
For any of you coming up this weekend, don't be surprised to see me out there chasing mud sharks. Also, don't be afraid to say hello.
 
For any of you coming up this weekend, don't be surprised to see me out there chasing mud sharks. Also, don't be afraid to say hello.

didnt see you, but did see plenty of (other) snaggers.

went out with the intent of getting a handle on this whole swinging tips game before steelhead season is upon us. proud to say no fish were hooked on the outside of the body. of course, none were hooked in the mouth either. but, still got a lot of learning to do. got 1 pull early on saturday and that was it.

saturday tried to find open water midriver; started out with a 200 yd stretch of river between the 2 of us but it wasnt long before goons started showing. took lunch off then dabbled in some sparsely populated water in the afternoon/evening.

had a good chat with DoubleHaul back at the campground. Got some tips that I would attempt to put into practice today.

hit the UFZ early this morning dreading the crowds i knew would be coming but also knowing there would be plenty of fish. Keith Collins, Walt Geryk & co. showed up and shared our water, which i was more than happy to trade for some advice and some (much needed) impromtu instruction, which they were eager (nearly overly so) to provide. in our brief interaction, these guys showed themselves to be real class acts. again, didnt catch anything, but got in some good training.

watched some jokers "land" a real nice football brown (hooked in the bunghole), proceeded to re-land it (drop it on its head), coax it from skirting back into the river (read "kick it up the bank, then step on it"), remove the x-rated piercing, perform a 5-minute photo-op complete with gill-grabbing, and (attempt to) revive it (facing cross- and down-current) until it swam (slipped) out of hand. beautiful sight. dropped some verbal hints to them, but they were not the type that would heed them. these guys were NOT class acts.

be back out there next weekend, dont know how much more combat fishing I can take though. may just do as much homework/exploring as possible.
 
For any of you coming up this weekend, don't be surprised to see me out there chasing mud sharks. Also, don't be afraid to say hello.

The U.S.S. Tobias. Ultimate Snaggin Ship. That's it.

Rank of Master Snagger.

Hope you had a good day. Heard that diesel on the low level pass.

Hllywd
 
I understand the Chinooks are in and spread out in the upper river from the Sportsman Pool to the UFZ.

DSR reports steady push today.
 
the kings are piled up in the bigger pools mosty fish been taking on big brite buggers. there a few trout on the lower half of the river. there was a 21lb brown in dsr last week. with several 10 plus pound steelhead water level is 750 and with tthe rain we keep getting i might be 1800 soon
 

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I understand the Chinooks are in and spread out in the upper river from the Sportsman Pool to the UFZ.

DSR reports steady push today.

They're in there, I guess, but I've been a frustrated angler this season. Last season I fished the stretch between the Staircase and the Blackhole probably 7 or 8 times beginning in late September over three weeks and, everytime I went, I hooked fish (in the mouth, mind you) and watched dozens of other anglers hooking up. This year, the only day that was similar was the Sunday before Labor Day (9/6).

Now, I'm not interested in jockeying for space to snag half-dead, spawned-out fish with fin-rot in the upper river, so I stick mostly to the lower river (below the Sportsman's) and it has been a huge disappointment to me this season. I've been up a dozen times since Labor Day and have had one good day (hooked 10+ and landed 4) and one decent day (hooked 5 kings, landed none, but landed one small steelhead). Both were on the DSR, which reported the good day as "a steady flow of fish" and the decent day was reported, maybe to drum up business, as being "on fire."

Every other time up it's been skunk city and a waste of gas. And it's not just me not hooking fish, my two fishing partners are very experienced salmon/steelhead anglers and they've been as disappointed as I have. Plus, people around me weren't hooking fish either.

This morning for example. Yesterday, the water went up and DSR reported a "banner day." Last season, after a report like that I would go to the lower staircase area the morning after and see hundreds of fish with guys hooking up and chasing them downstream, stumbling and bumbling the whole way. This morning at dawn I set up on a typically productive pocket and within minutes there were 50 or 60 guys spread from the staircase down. I saw three fish move through in three hours, 3-4 more hooked at the staircase, and one hooked and landed downstream of me.

Now, I'm not an expert, hell, I just started fishing the SR heavily last season, but it seems to me that this season isn't anything like what I saw last year despite there being a few claims of it being the being The Best Run Ever (tm). Your mileage may vary. Maybe I'm just having shitty luck this year in picking my spots on the river, or maybe the majority of the fish have just decided to not migrate out of the DSR, but it's been awful.
 
I fished the last three weekends in a row will not I repeat will not waste money on the DSR. Fishing all three weekends were phenomenal catching and releasing kings ,many monster cohos , atlantic's and several trophy browns to 18lbs. One day caught and released 25 browns or more lost count and hooked up on tons of salmon they are there alright just have to go find them. Each weekend hooked up minamal 30-40 times and I strictly fly fish.
 
Here is the weather report for the next ten days of Crazy Season on the Salmon River.

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Dam release

Until 9:00 PM today, 750 CFS
From 9:00 PM today until NOON Fri, 1,150 CFS



ATT it is 994 cfs at Pineville.
 
Hit Trestle and put my hiking boots on. Swung alot of the water from the slow bend down to near the road from day break. Lots of salmon hopping around, no tugs which sucks. I should've hit lower today but oh well. Could only take half a day of the salmon season bologna. :beingsick: I could tell the stories, but we all know what happens...snagger here, ripper there...did actually hear a fun quote though...

"Ahh once in a while you get lucky and get em' in the mouth." How true it is.:nose-picking:
 
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