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True, but then most everyone in your county drives 1 1/2 to 2 hours each way into NJ to work, negating that tax savings in gas and wear and tear on your cars :)

2 hours each way...who taught you how to drive. In 2 hours I can be in the city. Oh now I get it you meant New York since no one wants to work in Nj:) btw ever here of mileage expense:) sorry but you live in the state with ridiculous taxes and you still can't afford to buy open space. My county passes open space initiatives on the ballot just about every election. It's not even a question as to whether it will get funded or not.
 
you still can't afford to buy open space

We can and always have since the 1960s. But this election, our Governor blocked it from making the ballot as a new tax we would vote on and instead decided to raid our existing Corporate Business Tax fund should we vote to fund open space acquisitions today.
 
We can and always have since the 1960s. But this election, our Governor blocked it from making the ballot as a new tax we would vote on and instead decided to raid our existing Corporate Business Tax fund should we vote to fund open space acquisitions today.

Yea MAC, shut up and sit down!
 
We can and always have since the 1960s. But this election, our Governor blocked it from making the ballot as a new tax we would vote on and instead decided to raid our existing Corporate Business Tax fund should we vote to fund open space acquisitions today.


What was the Corporate Business Tax Fund used for?

This is good information, Rusty.
 
A quick look at city data indicates you are once again incorrect. Your counties median property tax bill is about 9k. My county is sbout 4900. Go catch a sucker you boob


Hey MACBOOB...median is not what I pay...I am on the very low end of my county as far as taxes, my son goes to one of the best schools in the area as well, smart buying...I am sure you are on the high end of your median taxes for your county.....you sell your fly fishing equipment to pay your taxes for fuck's sake:).....I drive 15 minutes to work, make over the median salary for my county, and live and work walking distance to two WTS'....Go eat a Big Macboob!!!!

Ohhh and I did catch a sucker yeaterday...it was fun...glad I have forceps, as I don't want to touch those slimy things....
I also caught a nice 14" wild brown trout BOOB!!!!
 
Hey MACBOOB...median is not what I pay...I am on the very low end of my county as far as taxes, my son goes to one of the best schools in the area as well, smart buying...I am sure you are on the high end of your median taxes for your county.....you sell your fly fishing equipment to pay your taxes for fuck's sake:).....I drive 15 minutes to work, make over the median salary for my county, and live and work walking distance to two WTS'....Go eat a Big Mac boob!!!!

No need to curse and I just pointed out that your county taxes are much higher on average. Actually it's the highest in your state. I pay more of course. I bought a new home and I live in a great area. I sell fishing gear because I like to buy new stuff. It's a vicious circle:) tomorrow I will get a brand new ross evolution reel in slate blue that I have been looking to acquire for quite some time...which reminds me are you interested in a cabelas CGT glass rod 7 1/2 foot 4/5 weight rod...only 60 bucks and I'll drop it off at the drive thru:)

You pay less because you live in a trailer on some one else's property...ok that's not true but it sounds good to me:) plus you are ugly so you have that to deal with
 
PA is actually a pretty good state to live in, but what bothers me is that it is closely following NJ to the east of your state. Pretty soon, eastern PA taxes and density will rival that of most of NJ....nobody seems to learn from our state's past mistakes. I was in State College this past summer for the first time in about 25 years and I was shocked and horrified to find one strip mall after the other. It looked like most any NJ state highway in our more urban areas. WTF? That used to be a fantastic town! Now I know why Happy Valley fell off the top places to live :(
 
PA is actually a pretty good state to live in, but what bothers me is that it is closely following NJ to the east of your state. Pretty soon, eastern PA taxes and density will rival that of most of NJ....nobody seems to learn from our state's past mistakes. I was in State College this past summer for the first time in about 25 years and I was shocked and horrified to find one strip mall after the other. It looked like most any NJ state highway in our more urban areas. WTF? That used to be a fantastic town! Now I know why Happy Valley fell off the top places to live :(

Should come as no surprise since most of the people coming in are from jersey and New York;)
 
:) tomorrow I will get a brand new ross evolution reel in slate blue that I have been looking to acquire for quite some time

Evolution LT? Thats a nice reel, I have one in black. When you have a Loomis NRX LP 5wt. (preferrably black with the blue wraps) to sell, let me know. Its a great rod. Buy it, get bored with it, and sell it to me. My Evolution will go nicely with it.
 
Evolution LT? Thats a nice reel, I have one in black. When you have a Loomis NRX LP 5wt. (preferrably black with the blue wraps) to sell, let me know. Its a great rod. Buy it, get bored with it, and sell it to me. My Evolution will go nicely with it.

First generation evolution TN. I have the NRX in green but haven't fished it yet:) it was a demo rod but Looks new to me
 
Blah blah blah George Soros blah blah jet sled blah blah the left blah blah.

Somebody's feeling feisty! Must have been that Moosekid comment about me owning you. (In reality, I wouldn't even rent you.):)

I think the problem we're having here is that when you say, "the left," you mean the Democratic establishment.

When I hear "the left" I think about an opening in the clouds, with sunbeams cascading out of it, and angelic voices singing to announce a better day for us all.

I am the left. At least a very small part of it. And I hate the Democratic establishment. I don't give a fuck about Soros. I'm glad he's rich and throws money behind (some) causes I care about. But I don't have much to say about him or his personality flaws. Probably in much the same way that your typical right winger doesn't give a fuck about the Koch brothers.

(See how I left you out of that formulation since, given your recent manifesto and MacFly's, I now know that both of you are blessed with very sophisticated political outlooks that defy easy categorization.:))

Anyway, it's totally normal to lump together all of the shitty examples of flawed humanity that are even vaguely associated with the other side and blame the many for the sins of a few. That's kind of what I'm doing when I bring up pathetic morons like Glen Beck and their legions of sad, middle-aged groupies out there in cyberspace, wallowing in what looks from the outside like a truckload of privilege.

And that's what you and others do with George Soros and his connection to the left. Somebody was talking about ad hominum attacks. Those are kind of the stock-in-trade of political media these days. So instead of talking about policies we talk about Soros and Murdoch and whoever else we can find to generally put a bad face on things. It works.

can we stop talking about Soros now?
 
No need to curse and I just pointed out that your county taxes are much higher on average. Actually it's the highest in your state. I pay more of course. I bought a new home and I live in a great area. I sell fishing gear because I like to buy new stuff. It's a vicious circle:) tomorrow I will get a brand new ross evolution reel in slate blue that I have been looking to acquire for quite some time...which reminds me are you interested in a cabelas CGT glass rod 7 1/2 foot 4/5 weight rod...only 60 bucks and I'll drop it off at the drive thru:)

You pay less because you live in a trailer on some one else's property...ok that's not true but it sounds good to me:) plus you are ugly so you have that to deal with

Yes MAc ...NJ sucks for taxes, I agree, not mine though.............and you are just jealous of my rugged, outdoorsy, good looks...I wouldn't be caught dead with a Cabelas rod...I fish the finest bamboo and English reels with silk line...I peer down my nose at you and your Ross reels...BAH.:p
 
Yes MAc ...NJ sucks for taxes, I agree, not mine though.............and you are just jealous of my rugged, outdoorsy, good looks...I wouldn't be caught dead with a Cabelas rod...I fish the finest bamboo and English reels with silk line...I peer down my nose at you and your Ross reels...BAH.:p

I think I'm taller so that eould be peering up your nose..ah never mind
 
Somebody's feeling feisty! Must have been that Moosekid comment about me owning you. (In reality, I wouldn't even rent you.):)

I think the problem we're having here is that when you say, "the left," you mean the Democratic establishment.

When I hear "the left" I think about an opening in the clouds, with sunbeams cascading out of it, and angelic voices singing to announce a better day for us all.

I am the left. At least a very small part of it. And I hate the Democratic establishment. I don't give a fuck about Soros. I'm glad he's rich and throws money behind (some) causes I care about. But I don't have much to say about him or his personality flaws. Probably in much the same way that your typical right winger doesn't give a fuck about the Koch brothers.

(See how I left you out of that formulation since, given your recent manifesto and MacFly's, I now know that both of you are blessed with very sophisticated political outlooks that defy easy categorization.:))

Anyway, it's totally normal to lump together all of the shitty examples of flawed humanity that are even vaguely associated with the other side and blame the many for the sins of a few. That's kind of what I'm doing when I bring up pathetic morons like Glen Beck and their legions of sad, middle-aged groupies out there in cyberspace, wallowing in what looks from the outside like a truckload of privilege.

And that's what you and others do with George Soros and his connection to the left. Somebody was talking about ad hominum attacks. Those are kind of the stock-in-trade of political media these days. So instead of talking about policies we talk about Soros and Murdoch and whoever else we can find to generally put a bad face on things. It works.

can we stop talking about Soros now?

You had me at ad hominem...did I mention you complete me..now go hug a tree or moose kid. I'm not judging
 
Somebody's feeling feisty! Must have been that Moosekid comment about me owning you. (In reality, I wouldn't even rent you.):)

I think the problem we're having here is that when you say, "the left," you mean the Democratic establishment.

When I hear "the left" I think about an opening in the clouds, with sunbeams cascading out of it, and angelic voices singing to announce a better day for us all.

I am the left. At least a very small part of it. And I hate the Democratic establishment. I don't give a fuck about Soros. I'm glad he's rich and throws money behind (some) causes I care about. But I don't have much to say about him or his personality flaws. Probably in much the same way that your typical right winger doesn't give a fuck about the Koch brothers.

(See how I left you out of that formulation since, given your recent manifesto and MacFly's, I now know that both of you are blessed with very sophisticated political outlooks that defy easy categorization.:))

Anyway, it's totally normal to lump together all of the shitty examples of flawed humanity that are even vaguely associated with the other side and blame the many for the sins of a few. That's kind of what I'm doing when I bring up pathetic morons like Glen Beck and their legions of sad, middle-aged groupies out there in cyberspace, wallowing in what looks from the outside like a truckload of privilege.

And that's what you and others do with George Soros and his connection to the left. Somebody was talking about ad hominum attacks. Those are kind of the stock-in-trade of political media these days. So instead of talking about policies we talk about Soros and Murdoch and whoever else we can find to generally put a bad face on things. It works.

can we stop talking about Soros now?


We can stop talking about Soros since his money did nothing to help any of the Dems tonight.
 
And open space passed. Time will tell if that is good or bad given the choice we were forced to make. At least we got our nation back last night. A complete repudiation of liberalism. I'm doing the I-told-you-so dance followed by my happy dance right now :)
 
And open space passed. Time will tell if that is good or bad given the choice we were forced to make. At least we got our nation back last night. A complete repudiation of liberalism. I'm doing the I-told-you-so dance followed by my happy dance right now :)

I'd save the happy dance until 2016 when the referendum Will be on whether republicans are capable of leading and governing. If not there will be a swift reversal. No one should take comfort in the victory. Yes it's less likely the president will get his way but frankly republicans had both houses and the presidency and demonstrated complete incompetence the last time. We need a massive improvement.
 
Most interesting is the number of governor races that went republican. This is a real opportunity to govern so don't screw it up
 
I'd save the happy dance until 2016 when the referendum Will be on whether republicans are capable of leading and governing. If not there will be a swift reversal. No one should take comfort in the victory. Yes it's less likely the president will get his way but frankly republicans had both houses and the presidency and demonstrated complete incompetence the last time. We need a massive improvement.

I agree completely. Last night's victory had nothing to do with the Republicans being so great, it had everything to do with the left screwing up more or less everything. If the Rs want the Presidency in '16, they need results that Americans support. If they can't because of Presidential veto, then they will have to show the Dems as the party of obstruction. I remain completely disillusioned by Congress in both parties. Hard to imagine how that's now going to change overnight.

The one thing I find so refreshing today is the deafening silence from my liberal friends on Facebook for the first time since Obama won some 6 years ago. My moderate friends never post political threads, some of my conservative friends do at times, but all of my liberal friends are all left-leaning political threads all of the time.
 
I agree completely. Last night's victory had nothing to do with the Republicans being so great, it had everything to do with the left screwing up more or less everything. If the Rs want the Presidency in '16, they need results that Americans support. If they can't because of Presidential veto, then they will have to show the Dems as the party of obstruction. I remain completely disillusioned by Congress in both parties. Hard to imagine how that's now going to change overnight.

The one thing I find so refreshing today is the deafening silence from my liberal friends on Facebook for the first time since Obama won some 6 years ago. My moderate friends never post political threads, some of my conservative friends do at times, but all of my liberal friends are all left-leaning political threads all of the time.

I did have to chuckle at Chris Matthews last night. The thrill has left his leg:)
 
Open space doesn't mean the purchase of a run down golf course for the county freeholders to play at!
 
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