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NRX vs Helios?
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Trouser Trout
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Yes, I think your first thread sucks......
Johnny Utah
You're no daisy
Sorry, for some reason my computer is running slow and froze in between pages and posts... So my apologizes... didn't mean to post that with out the rest of what i was writing...
I have been fishing with an Orvis Silver Label for a few years now that I had bought from a buddy and completely fell in love with sport, slowly selling off ALL my other tackle. I broke the tip the other night and contacted Orvis for the warranty info... They had said I was eligible for the upgrade putting me at 300 bucks for Helios...I couldn't believe it... Now I have been a Looms guy for years so i am trying to decide do i stick with the helios upgrade or sell it and buy a loomis...Either way its a once in a life time rod for 300 bucks just not sure what way to go...
I have been fishing with an Orvis Silver Label for a few years now that I had bought from a buddy and completely fell in love with sport, slowly selling off ALL my other tackle. I broke the tip the other night and contacted Orvis for the warranty info... They had said I was eligible for the upgrade putting me at 300 bucks for Helios...I couldn't believe it... Now I have been a Looms guy for years so i am trying to decide do i stick with the helios upgrade or sell it and buy a loomis...Either way its a once in a life time rod for 300 bucks just not sure what way to go...
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
First of all don't sell your other gear, there are types of fishing other than for trout, and there are times when a fly rod ain't the way to go (like when your bass'in). Don't be the douchbag fly-all-the-time-spinning-gear-sucks guy.
NRX is the way to go, no question. I've fished both, the NRX is in another league, I wish I had one. Go and cast both if you can and you'll see.
NRX is the way to go, no question. I've fished both, the NRX is in another league, I wish I had one. Go and cast both if you can and you'll see.
Good to hear. I've lately been convincing myself that I need the 9 wt NRX.
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
The heavier weight NRX's are amazing. I fished a borrowed 10wt for a week last year, and it was a cannon. It also felt more like a 7-8wt in hand. I just can't justify buying one since I do that type of fishing so infrequently.
danme
Cast Drys over them Enough They Will Rise
IMOVHO ORVIS is the way to go -- Loomis is good but ORVIS has the reputation and the longevity unlike many other rod manufacturers -- Although Im partial to ORVIS so I may be biased but go with the COMPANY thats lasted the ages and the econoic rough times
Peace
dan
Peace
dan
Trout Guy
Brookie's or Bust!
I love my Helios, i beat the LIVING SHIT out of it as i fish almost every fishable day. The NRX is a very nice rod and it does throw nice tight loops while shooting (atleast the 5wt), but is kinda over priced for what it is IMHO.
Being my everyday rod ive dropped it, slammed huge fish, stepped on it and smacked it up on a few bridges, the only thing i had happen was the tip top guide simply fell off and i used some tip top guide adhesive and it was fixed.. It really is a fantastic rod!
And if your getting a 8'6" 5wt id suggest using a 5-7 reel size as it tends to balance it better, ive had a BLA 2 on it for 2 years and when i switched to a Lamson guru 2.0 (5-6wt) it casted easier and just felt better in hand. Even though its not as asthetically pleasing as the matching gold battenkill!
Oh, just to let u know the money orvis is willing to credit you, only counts towards Orvis rods... Id vote superfine!! SUUUUCHHHHH a nice rod if you like consistant short to medium range casts. And it has looks to kill!!
Being my everyday rod ive dropped it, slammed huge fish, stepped on it and smacked it up on a few bridges, the only thing i had happen was the tip top guide simply fell off and i used some tip top guide adhesive and it was fixed.. It really is a fantastic rod!
And if your getting a 8'6" 5wt id suggest using a 5-7 reel size as it tends to balance it better, ive had a BLA 2 on it for 2 years and when i switched to a Lamson guru 2.0 (5-6wt) it casted easier and just felt better in hand. Even though its not as asthetically pleasing as the matching gold battenkill!
Oh, just to let u know the money orvis is willing to credit you, only counts towards Orvis rods... Id vote superfine!! SUUUUCHHHHH a nice rod if you like consistant short to medium range casts. And it has looks to kill!!
flyI4
Fishizzle, I use worms but I'm looking to upgrade!
The NRX is a sick rod, I casted a 6 wt for a day on the stream and loved it. On the flip side, I've grown to hate my helios over the past 2 years. I casted the helios in a pond before buying it and loved it for the power it had and light feel in the hand. My big mistake was buying this rod before fishing with it in a variety of situations. I find its a cannon, but very difficult to lay the fly in with touch at longer distances, it does not protect light tippet well, and its really more of a non technical pound it out there sort of rod, which is not the kind of fishing I typically do. GO with the NRX if you have the choice, its as powerful and a more versatile rod for delicate presentations.
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
I've found the same thing with the Helios and old Hydros. The tip-flex models were blunt instruments, and the mid-flex rods didn't have much power, which is ok if you want medium action. Then again, if you want medium-fast action, there are a ton of rods out there that are way, way better in the price range (like a Winston). Plus the Helios is expensive. NRX is a much better stick for the same price. I don't think you can even compare the 2 if you've ever casted or fished them both.
flyI4
Fishizzle, I use worms but I'm looking to upgrade!
I really like going back to my old sage DS/FLI 9ft 4wts during the summer because those older medium action style rods are great for laying it in there nice on spooky fish and help protect that 6x tippet(I gave up the 7x game a while ago unless on the PA spring creeks). They aren't the best for long casts and take a while to adjust to if you haven't fished that kind of rod in a while, but after an hr your right back in the groove with them and they do a nice job.
Big_Spinner
Trout Hunter
Hi,
I have 3 NEW NRX rods for sale. PM me for details.
These rods are another huge step above the famous GLX series.
Jim
I have 3 NEW NRX rods for sale. PM me for details.
These rods are another huge step above the famous GLX series.
Jim
Trouser Trout
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
I casted a 5wt helios tip flex two summers ago in the manchester store, it was sweet. I had no trouble casting 25 and even 35 ft. awesome!!!!
Johnny Utah
You're no daisy
I have a 5wt Hydros tip flex. It is a great powerful rod and that's just it. I love it for big water streamer fishing and nyphing. The tip is very sensitive for high sticking or euro tech. The rod can cast a dry a country a mile, but you must adapt your casting to rod in this situation or else it will slap line. And that's just it, you either buy a rod tailored to the situation or adapt your casting for the situation with said rod. When your looking to purchase a rod, you have to think of the applications and situations to which you wish to employ the rod. Most high end rods are specialty rods, tailored for certain applications and ease of use in these situations, however this does not mean they cant do it all.
Lonewolve
New member
I am a huge GLoomis Fan, but i have mostly GL3's. The only other three rods i have by GLoomis are :GL4 9' 5 wt 2 pc great nymphing rod and will handle some wind, a GL4 9' 9wt 2pc this is my main Salmon/Steelhead rod,it is great for the great lakes however not enough backbone for windy saltwater, I recently aquired a GLX 9' 10 wt 2 pc for Stripahhhhhssss/Albies/Blues.
IMHO the GLX is still an incredible rod series especially where wind is concerned and distance is needed,GLoomis set the Bar years ago with this.I have yet to cast the NRX or fish it for that matter.
I think its all about what you are looking for : wind/distance and great presentation = GLX/NRX?,for what its worth a NRX is awfully pricey. ID go to Fleabay an see if you can get one used,at least save a few bucks.
IMHO fast sticks suck on Spring Creeks,stay with a mid action an you will be far happier...even Sage is gettin back to what really matters now with a mid action series they just released.
For Saltwater or Freshwater where you will be dealing with wind go with the GLX/NRX,aside from that there are better rods out there for a hell of alot less money an that money can be used for buying lots of gas to go on fishing trips!
Tight Wraps & Tight Lines
Rick Wallace
BTW ..best things Orvis does are their CFO reels,and their Super Stong tippet.
IMHO the GLX is still an incredible rod series especially where wind is concerned and distance is needed,GLoomis set the Bar years ago with this.I have yet to cast the NRX or fish it for that matter.
I think its all about what you are looking for : wind/distance and great presentation = GLX/NRX?,for what its worth a NRX is awfully pricey. ID go to Fleabay an see if you can get one used,at least save a few bucks.
IMHO fast sticks suck on Spring Creeks,stay with a mid action an you will be far happier...even Sage is gettin back to what really matters now with a mid action series they just released.
For Saltwater or Freshwater where you will be dealing with wind go with the GLX/NRX,aside from that there are better rods out there for a hell of alot less money an that money can be used for buying lots of gas to go on fishing trips!
Tight Wraps & Tight Lines
Rick Wallace
BTW ..best things Orvis does are their CFO reels,and their Super Stong tippet.
were you standing on a step ladder or the ground?
Test casted then ended up buying the 9wt NRX. Stunned at how accurate it was. Very easy to throw 25' accurately or the entire fly line accurately. While any modern graphite 9 wt can throw the entire line, I was surprised at how easy it was with the NRX. Surf fishing is alot of blind casting and I felt the NRX was a rod you can easily blind cast for 3+ hours and not get fatigued. Also surprised at how easy the rod loaded and cast short distances.
I've owned/used the following saltwater sticks (7-10wt): Original RPLX, Winston BIIX, Original GLX, Crosscurrent GLX, Scott S4, Scott S4S, Batson Rainshadow/RX8+. Felt the NRX was noticeably better and not just slightly improved over the rods I just mentioned.
Definitely don't recommend buying the NRX before you test cast though (to each his own), but I feel strongly that any Northeast Saltwater Flyfisher test cast the 9wt NRX if they are looking for a new stick.
Also to be clear I only test casted the NRX in a 9wt. Loomis GLX trout rods have always felt overpowered to me, so I have yet to give the NRX trout models a chance.
I've owned/used the following saltwater sticks (7-10wt): Original RPLX, Winston BIIX, Original GLX, Crosscurrent GLX, Scott S4, Scott S4S, Batson Rainshadow/RX8+. Felt the NRX was noticeably better and not just slightly improved over the rods I just mentioned.
Definitely don't recommend buying the NRX before you test cast though (to each his own), but I feel strongly that any Northeast Saltwater Flyfisher test cast the 9wt NRX if they are looking for a new stick.
Also to be clear I only test casted the NRX in a 9wt. Loomis GLX trout rods have always felt overpowered to me, so I have yet to give the NRX trout models a chance.
