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Invasives Stopping Product

I gotta side with danme on this one, I like both of you, but face it FF you are pretty much a one topic guy, you area fan of fracturing for gas, (i am too), but it pretty much is what you post about, and you tried equating this product to fracturing fluid. no biggie....
 
Trouser Trout said:
I gotta side with danme on this one, I like both of you, but face it FF you are pretty much a one topic guy, you area fan of fracturing for gas, (i am too), but it pretty much is what you post about, and you tried equating this product to fracturing fluid. no biggie....
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I had no idea you cared...

Was he arguing for hydraulic fracturing? Was he arguing against it?
No, neither.

Did I ask him to argue for or against hydraulic fracturing?
Nope.

Did I "drag" him into an argument for or against it?
Nope.

He found evidence that a product was safe and effective.

I pointed out that the active ingredient was the same as a biocide used in hydraulic fracturing.

No dragging him into an argument on the merits or demerits of hydraulic fracturing....

He then chose to discuss how he feels on the subject.
 
Future Fanatic said:
I had no idea you cared...

Was he arguing for hydraulic fracturing? Was he arguing against it?
No, neither.

Did I ask him to argue for or against hydraulic fracturing?
Nope.

Did I "drag" him into an argument for or against it?
Nope.

He found evidence that a product was safe and effective.

I pointed out that the active ingredient was the same as a biocide used in hydraulic fracturing.

No dragging him into an argument on the merits or demerits of hydraulic fracturing....

He then chose to discuss how he feels on the subject.
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Take TT to school, FF!!

And god knows...

You've been to school.

So who could possibly be more qualified?

To take the ignorant TT to school...

Than you, FF?

Bur we love TT.

Notwithstanding his need for some schooling.

And I ain't foolin.
 
The last thing I or TT need is you taking sides here.

Let me bask in the afterglow of him saying he likes me for a while before you F it up.
If your relationship with AK is any guide... it's cancerous when you get involved...;)
 
golden beetle said:
Take TT to school, FF!!

And god knows...

You've been to school.

So who could possibly be more qualified?

To take the ignorant TT to school...

Than you, FF?

Bur we love TT.

Notwithstanding his need for some schooling.

And I ain't foolin.
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GB..you sound like when you were gleefully posting like a bitch that AK was gone, because you got someone else to fight your battle.... Even if You and FF put your bald heads together the only thing you will make is an ass.....
 
Trouser Trout said:
GB..you sound like when you were gleefully posting like a bitch that AK was gone, because you got someone else to fight your battle.... Even if You and FF put your bald heads together the only thing you will make is an ass.....
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I just gotta say, half of that ass would be hairy...
 
Future Fanatic said:
It's been done for over sixty years in over a million wells... Shouldn't there be people walking around with three eyes by now or mass graves popping up in Texas, Wyoming, Louisiana, or Oklahoma? ;) The problem seems to be that science will NEVER change the mind of someone who does not WANT to believe it. The reasons for the opposition to natural gas extraction are a bit more complicated...
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Do your research..it has never been done at the depths it is being done at now, or in a watershed that so many people depend on.....as stated before, I am all for responsible harvesting of our natural resources, maybe you can show me a graph....you do realize what shale hold at these depths....the fluid pumped into the ground should be the least of our worries....I also understand the politics of fracturing and the need for the economical boost in the area......now I am bored with this conversation so have at me, I am done responding.....:)
 
Future Fanatic said:
Danme,

You don't think that the red portions of the quote of yours show that you are not fond of me?

Maybe our definitions of like and dislike are different.

For instance, I would say I dislike Bernie Madoff or President Assad or Josef Stalin(yeah I know he's dead.)
Now I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it seems you are saying that you would be neutral on these guys since you never met them, is that right?

And again, you were arguing about the benefits of Enviroguard64. I brought up fracking as it related to the same chemical in both. I'm sorry if you feel that your promoting a product linked you to an argument about something else. Think of it as if one was talking about how great a certain Phoebe was at catching fish and then someone brings up treble hook mortality and disfigurement. Not the conversation he wanted, but he certainly wasn't making an argument for killing or disfiguring trout... Should the Phoebe promoter say "Why did you drag me into an argument about killing and disfiguring trout?
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People can agree to disagree..Me and my wife disagree all the time, and I'm kinda still fond of her....sorry I said I was done, but this FF fellow just goes around and around in circles...maybe a pie chart instead of a graph this time.:)

One ,one thing...I think dcabarle does a fine job with the site.
 
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Future Fanatic said:
Danme,

You don't think that the red portions of the quote of yours show that you are not fond of me?

Maybe our definitions of like and dislike are different.

For instance, I would say I dislike Bernie Madoff or President Assad or Josef Stalin(yeah I know he's dead.)
Now I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it seems you are saying that you would be neutral on these guys since you never met them, is that right?

And again, you were arguing about the benefits of Enviroguard64. I brought up fracking as it related to the same chemical in both. I'm sorry if you feel that your promoting a product linked you to an argument about something else. Think of it as if one was talking about how great a certain Phoebe was at catching fish and then someone brings up treble hook mortality and disfigurement. Not the conversation he wanted, but he certainly wasn't making an argument for killing or disfiguring trout... Should the Phoebe promoter say "Why did you drag me into an argument about killing and disfiguring trout?
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See F.F. -- There was another subject that YES you put words in my mouth in order to get your point across. No F.F those RED QUOTES YOU MADE were not an attack on you in any way shape or form --they were so you and other people could see exactly what i was saying. Also if you notice it was after you pretty much tried to dis-credit my post and this product. I pointed you out in the post so you couldn't turn it into something it wasn't or change the meaning of it, like you tried to do In another thread. -- That is why I speculated that you were a Lawyer -- Are you a laywer?? I have NO IDEA!!!! You type and or communicate like you are a lawyer in a court of law. Im not saying that is good or bad -- I'm just saying that is what you do -- If you are a Lawyer then Im speculating your a pretty good one -- If your not a Lawyer you should concider a career change.

See again your really pulling on straws with Bernie Madoof Pres Assad and Joseph Stalin and basically puting words in my mouth -- Although No I never met them but all evidence against them has pretty much proven they are BAD EVIL MEN -- Are you saying your like them?? -- I dont think you are -- But here is a perfect example of YOU PUTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I said it once in this thread and I will repeat what I said -- HAS COMMON SENSE WENT OUT THE WINDOW HERE?? Really you want me to compare you to them?? I dont think you do and I really dont want -- Unless of course you want to be thought of as them.

Peace
Dan
 
lightenup said:
Do your research..it has never been done at the depths it is being done at now, or in a watershed that so many people depend on.....as stated before, I am all for responsible harvesting of our natural resources, maybe you can show me a graph....you do realize what shale hold at these depths....the fluid pumped into the ground should be the least of our worries....I also understand the politics of fracturing and the need for the economical boost in the area......now I am bored with this conversation so have at me, I am done responding.....:)
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I really have done my research.

When you say "it has never been done at the depths it is being done at now", do you mean that it's only been done deeper or shallower?

Which watershed are you concerned with?

What do these shales hold at "these depths"?

I'd really like to hear what you think.
 
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danme said:
See F.F. -- There was another subject that YES you put words in my mouth in order to get your point across. No F.F those RED QUOTES YOU MADE were not an attack on you in any way shape or form --they were so you and other people could see exactly what i was saying. Also if you notice it was after you pretty much tried to dis-credit my post and this product. I pointed you out in the post so you couldn't turn it into something it wasn't or change the meaning of it, like you tried to do In another thread. -- That is why I speculated that you were a Lawyer -- Are you a laywer?? I have NO IDEA!!!! You type and or communicate like you are a lawyer in a court of law. Im not saying that is good or bad -- I'm just saying that is what you do -- If you are a Lawyer then Im speculating your a pretty good one -- If your not a Lawyer you should concider a career change.

See again your really pulling on straws with Bernie Madoof Pres Assad and Joseph Stalin and basically puting words in my mouth -- Although No I never met them but all evidence against them has pretty much proven they are BAD EVIL MEN -- Are you saying your like them?? -- I dont think you are -- But here is a perfect example of YOU PUTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I said it once in this thread and I will repeat what I said -- HAS COMMON SENSE WENT OUT THE WINDOW HERE?? Really you want me to compare you to them?? I dont think you do and I really dont want -- Unless of course you want to be thought of as them.

Peace
Dan
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Dan, I don't think we're gonna get anywhere.

I quote you, and I some how "put words in your mouth".

You say you don't like or dislike people you haven't met. I give you some examples of people you haven't met to ask if you are neutral on them. And you ask me if i want to be compared to them? !?!

You say I put words in your mouth but it seems that when you don't like the words that come out of your mouth, you blame me for putting them there.

How do you like me now?
 
Future Fanatic said:
Dan, I don't think we're gonna get anywhere.

I quote you, and I some how "put words in your mouth".

You say you don't like or dislike people you haven't met. I give you some examples of people you haven't met to ask if you are neutral on them. And you ask me if i want to be compared to them? !?!

You say I put words in your mouth but it seems that when you don't like the words that come out of your mouth, you blame me for putting them there.

How do you like me now?
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I guess we can agree to dis-agree -- No I dont have anything against you -- Yes you try to put word in mine and other peoples mouth's and Comparing an Internet forum to Stalin Madoff and Assad -- Is just plain Stupid -- You dont like it when someone turns the tables on you AT ALL -- But its ok when you do it to everybody else. Well guess what thats your problem -- Not mine --

Like i said I have no "DISTASTE" fo you -- it does seem you do have "DISTASTE" fo me -- I can live with that because It's not my problem -- It's yours -- if you ever want to discuss this any further u can PM and I will gve you a phone number to call me -- Other than that I hope you have a nice Evening/Night

Peace
Dan
 
Is there any water in fracting fluid?
I once hosed some mud off my waders with water.

I guess that makes me part of the controversy... :crap:
 
Wow, this thread has really jumped the shark. So, what's the bottom line? Can I just use Lysol (Or the similar pool product) to clean my gear or what? I would love to find a bleach alternative.
 
gadfly -- The EnviroGuard64 is your Bleach alternative this stuff is the real deal -- it is safe for the stream and it can be used on not only your felt soles -- it can be sprayed on yout waders -- you fly rod and reel -- Your Lines and leaders/tippets -- It will have no ill effect -- It is safe for all Fishing Products including NEOPRENE -- Just spray it on your gear wet or dry -- Let it soak fro 5 mins Minimum and all invasives will be terminated. You do not need to let your gear dry after using this -- 5 mins and your good to go

I am still awaiting the rest of the info on this -- I am getting some of it next week -- Im also awaiting a meeting (PHONE) with another guy who started all the 3rd party testing. As Soon as I have that info I will update this site.

Also -- You can reuse it if it is not to dirty -- Just pour it into a different bottle and your good to re-use it -- I say a different bottle because why pout it into the UNUSED EnviroGuard -- It has a 3yr Shelf life -- 1 Gallon will go a VERY LONG WAY

Haope this helps you out gadfly.

Peace
Dan

P.S. If you have any questions P.M. me -- I will be glad to answer your questions if I have the info to correctly answer them

Dan
 
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