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Fish Smarter / Spring Planning

rford

Less Than Beeko
With all the preparations we make for Spring, the epiphany that good planning is going to help me make the most out of it has recently sprung into might tightly fitted skull. As we approach the upcoming spring season, I have been trying to come up with a plan of attack. This year is going to be different for me. I have decided to roll up my business and go back to work for the “Man”, so time will be even more precious.

With that said, I have keyed into a theme that Ken Tutalo incorporated into his presentation at the Cranford TU meeting last week, on; where to fish?

He pointed out that the upper Delaware system always presents different opportunities and options based on Time of year, Weather, Overall water conditions and what your specific fishing goal is. He also pointed out that many of us have learned their secret spots form guides or friends and drive the three hours to fish with this in mind, get there only to find the river unfishable and don’t know the system well enough to choose a viable and fishable alternative in the “System”.

I think this is a key point, and without incorporating some time management and knowledge base of the different river systems, many of us are setting ourselves up for disappointing outings.

With that, I started thinking about how my time is going to be even more restricted this year than ever (maybe one suicide run per week {day trip within 3 hour drive}), and if I am going to have a satisfying spring and also satiate some of my wanderlust for new waters I better have a plan, and a plan B and a Plan C.

So than I realized , I have to really start thinking about zooming out on google earth and dividing up the 3 hour +/- driving Radius from beautiful Essex county.

Here is the hard part, for me, despite my braggadocio concerning Pig Hunting with streamers, what I really want to do in the spring is spend as much time targeting Big, Wild trout on dry fly’s. And currently my perception of doing that is going somewhere in the Delaware system, and forgoing opportunities to fish new water for what I perceive as a “ Sure Thing “ or at least a comfort zone. So what do I do?

First I make a rule. No wasting time in a bad weather blow out. If we have a system come through that has blown out most of the rivers and I had planned on going somewhere that Saturday, my modes operandi has been to put on blinders and go anyway and try and make hay while the sunshine is not shining. Usually this is a waste, and I should be working on a project on my house and putting money in the fishing piggy bank with get out of jail free passes from the wife. Ok, that’s number one.

Next I need to make a list of where and when I’m going to fish the usual systems by how far they are, my comfort level and how much time it really takes to make the trip worth while. In other words, I have never fished the CT Tail waters that AJ speaks of. Do I go up there on a wild hair knowing nothing about these river, and rely on maps and my instincts or do I wait till I can afford a guide, book a trip and do it right so my trip will pay off in more than just a singularity but leaving me a bit smarter from the knowledge transfer from guide, that will put me that much closer to fishing that system more successfully in the future, without a guide, once again buying myself future options of going somewhere on less than a whim, for examples if Catskills are blown out, I already have card for a day trip, I can go to CT because it happened to not get hit by the storm and still have a good day.

So like Ken had presented the Delaware system broken up in to quadrants re: West Branch, Upper Main, Lower Main, Lower east, Upper East, Beaverkill, Willow and than the upper /upper headwaters of all these systems not to mention the feeder streams and mountain brookie ponds etc / etc and the specific times of year to fish each as a generalization and than the Micro plan as to what to do if one side of Del Valley is blown out and other side is not. I think its time to looks at the big picture from where I am sitting in NJ.

What are my alternatives?

Doable in a day trip

1 Hour –
All major NJ Rivers and small waters.
NJ Saltwatwer

1.5 – 2 Hours:
Long Island (Quot, etc),
NY Lower – Croton System,
Neversink / Mongap
PA: Little Lehigh and eastern PA Limestoners, Pocono’s
NJ

2- 3 Hours
Western CT Tail waters
Catskills and Upper Delaware

Probably want to go at least over night

3-6 Hours
Maryland (gunpowder)
Central PA Limestoners
Adirondacks
Great Lake Tribs
VT NH

And I’m not going to worry about farther than that since I know this year, unless I hit the Time and Money lottery I will not be taking any big trips

Sure, It may be a little OCD to try and commoditize my time and planning, however just the exercise of putting it on paper gives one a Reality Check that I think will help make the best of ones time.

I would love to hear what planning others do, and any rivers you would like to add to the Time Radius list without outing or jeopardizing any secrets.
Also what equipment honing / new lines fly tying or buying etc? Do you work on, to really try to get in front of the curve to make spring great?

Thanks for your input.

Ralph
 
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Ralph no matter what Dont forget to have a good time..........and remember sometimes keeping the wife happy doesnt involve chores around the house:D...........
 
Ralph,

Other than the few PA rivers you mentioned, I think I'd like to check out a few PA rivers that I've never fished. I'm sure there are quite a few of them within a 2 1/2hr drive from home.

Where did Weamer run off to? State College PA? Must be a great location for him to leave the Delaware system.
 
Where did Weamer run off to?... Must be a xxxxx location for him to leave the Delaware system.

WAY OVER RATED.




However, ajfromnj just had a nice post about fishing the CT river system and the 18-22 inch fish he caught this week in the ice, snow, and below freezing air temperatures. Can you just imagine what it would be like fishing in the spring, summer and fall fishing in that state ???!!!!

As always, Head EAST young man.. head EAST....

AK Skim
 
After having taken a buiness trip to VA last year, I'd say that VA mountain fishing would be a great add to the 'overnight' category.

One rule that I have for myself that I always pay for when I break is that the car HAS TO be packed the night before. I need to get my butt out of bed and in the driver's seat and go or time slips away and things are always harder to find in the pre-dawn darkness.

Over the years, I've come to know certain places that do well in high water, so in planning trips I keep those in the background in case of heavy rains. But you've got a great point that it generally pays to save those days for taking care of business elsewhere and fishing the next weekend. Sometimes you've got to fish no matter what, though.

I generally like to split my time between places I know and places I've never been to, so for my NJ trips I'll try to mix it up by picking out a known stream and trying to blend at least a scout-around to points as yet unfished.


Another thing I do is to blend in fishing for smallmouth into the mix, especially when the weather warms. That generally opens up more options closer to home.
 
Rford, I actually put together a grid of first,second and third choices for every two weeks of the year.
My planner goes something like this:
4,6,10 hour time requirement rivers.
Its then broken down to first,second and third choices for in each time slot.
Its then considers week of the month, for example,
the Beaverkill and Wilo might be first or second choices
the first and second week of May but the tailwaters got to the top of the list after June 1. In the fall daylight saving time figures into the equation due to lost light hours and not willing to drive as far for lesser hours to fish. I always try to go with my first choice in each time slot but always check local conditions which might lead me to choice 2 or 3.
Local conditions would include, flow,clarity,overcast and temperature of water, closed for stocking dates and wind. This guide has served me well but ALWAYS
check the local conditions before departing. I have found times when wind was 15-20 mph in NY and 8-12 in Ct.
 
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I really like fishing after work. Once I get to know the area, I plan on having a loop-drive where it's never too late to make up my mind as to where I want to fish. I did this back in Seattle and it was awesome. My loop took me around the Southeast 1/4 of King County and put me near cutthroat in beaver ponds, searun cutthroat and steelhead in the Snoqualmie River, little 'bows and cutts in a few Cascade streams, or monster Lake Washington trout that move up the Cedar River. This loop of fishing options took about 1 1/2 hours in good traffic and I could always change my mind or fish multiple spots before dark. So watch out Croton watershed and Catskills!
 
I really like fishing after work. Once I get to know the area, I plan on having a loop-drive where it's never too late to make up my mind as to where I want to fish. I did this back in Seattle and it was awesome. My loop took me around the Southeast 1/4 of King County and put me near cutthroat in beaver ponds, searun cutthroat and steelhead in the Snoqualmie River, little 'bows and cutts in a few Cascade streams, or monster Lake Washington trout that move up the Cedar River. This loop of fishing options took about 1 1/2 hours in good traffic and I could always change my mind or fish multiple spots before dark. So watch out Croton watershed and Catskills!

WOW! Coast to coast move. Must have been a tough decision. I'd love to live in Washington, but I doubt it will ever happen. Can't believe you gave up wild steelhead for this.


Cdog
 
I'm finding the winter scout to be almost (almost) as fun as the actual fishing. Even though I've lived in NJ my whole life, most of my trout fishing has been 5hrs away in VT, where I know the secret streams in the area I fish pretty well, having been going up since I was a kid. Well, this year I decided to find some similar streams in NJ, to try and recreate the experience I get up there. I doubt that I'll find anything on the scale of what I fish up in VT, but I'll settle for good scenery, with any fish as gravy. Armed with some USGS maps and a GPS, me and a friend have been doing some serious scouting. Some trips have been a bust, but this weekend we found a gem that is pretty out of the way, and unlikely to have been heavily fished. Looking forward to following up on some "leads" again this coming weekend as well.
 
TN:

You got it, finding different streams to fish IS more fun than the actual fishing sometimes.

Happy Hunting.

AKS
 
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Ralph,

I don't know why CT isn't more fished by us NJ anglers, but I have always enjoyed going there. I like the Housatonic more than the tailwaters for its big, complicated feel and generally more space. The Housy can warm, but then it is smallmouth time. East side of the Hudson in NYS other than the Battenkill has some underfished water too.

One oddball in PA is the Lackawanna. Fishing in old coal mining towns underneath towering "boney piles" in cold acid mine drainage sweetened up by sewage treatment plant outfalls for huge wild browns is a unique experience.

Problem soon becomes too many choices!
 
WOW! Coast to coast move. Must have been a tough decision. I'd love to live in Washington, but I doubt it will ever happen. Can't believe you gave up wild steelhead for this.


Cdog
WA is really nice if you hate sunny weather, like catching 10-20lb fish in big, majestic rivers...tried it and realized I'm a trout and sun kind of guy. Fishing near NYC has so much intrigue to me, I can hardly wait for summer.
 
I plan to take the time to fully discover my own back yard. Bushwhack more with the 2wt....I love wild trout and the fact that the hog of the day is a 6-8"er.....:)
 
..I love wild trout and the fact that the hog of the day is a 6-8"er.....

Warning.. Warning Wilma Robinson....

This is a G rated site, that people let their 2 & 3 year olds come in and view.

As always, on guard.

AK Skim
NEFF VP of Morality
 
Is that Brad Pitt in your avatar AKSkim? "Blahblahblahblah Missoula Montana!" is my favorite line from that movie.
 
I've been turning almost all my fishing outings into overnighters to spend more time fishing and less driving. The only problem I seem to run into from time to time is too many campfire beers and not waking up as early as planned. It still beats all the driving around. Most places I camp I try to make sure there's a couple options within a half hour drive.
 
Hook, fly and leader.......I always find it interesting to present a double entendre and see who slurps it up first....:thumb:

Warning.. Warning Wilma Robinson....

This is a G rated site, that people let their 2 & 3 year olds come in and view.

As always, on guard.

AK Skim
NEFF VP of Morality
 
Hook, fly and leader.......I always find it interesting to present a double entendre and see who slurps it up first....:thumb:


Whoa AK! I think you've finally got some competition here.

Cdog
 
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Hook, fly and leader.......I always find it interesting to present a double entendre and see who slurps it up first....:thumb:

Did you see that someone is sellin a bIIX on this site?

You may want to look at that thread... its a great stick.
 
Hook, fly and leader.......I always find it interesting to present a double entendre and see who slurps it up first...

Your not that good.

You need to go back and look at a few things along the way...

As always, LOL

AK Skim
Master Magician

PS
Welcome to NEFF where things don't always appear as they seem.
 
Got ya to rise to the fly, I've set the hook - but you keep shaking your head trying to spit the evidence out......:devious:

All in good fun.........;)
 
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:rofl:

OMG! AK, You're sick! That was bad...real bad!

Cdog

They scrubbed it in less than 3 minutes!

A NEW RECORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The down side, it was one of my better one's.


FlyGal.. you just had your first post scrubbed! ... </IMG>
 
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