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Drift boat etiquette
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Rusty Spinner
Active member
Just curious, if they were wade fishermen in the same pool for 4 hours, would you also be posting about poor form?
cingras53
Trout,striper and grouse hunter
I think the sitting and doing nothing for 4 hours irks me. If they are waiting for rising fish, why does someone who might want to nymph the spot have to go somewhere else. I have absolutely no problem with anyone fishing a spot for 4 hours, drift boat or no drift boat.
flyI4
Fishizzle, I use worms but I'm looking to upgrade!
First to the spot has the water i dont see the issue, especially at the farm pool which has been the most crowded pool on the river for several years now. U gotta get there early and lock up your spot- and when im waiting for risers the last thing anyone wants is someone beating up the water w a nymph rig and spooking the fish.
comparadun
..........
Just ban all lazy ass banana boats and stinktoons on the entire Delaware system.......see if they can become "real" fly fisherman.
Just the facts.
CDun
Just the facts.
CDun
dcabarle
Administrator
And when you say real fly fishermen, you mean the ones who are wearing waders up to their necks with the 20lb vest on with 16 spools of tippet material that will never be used, the gink bottles, etc... Cuz you know... if you're a fly fisherman, you might as well look like everyone else even if it's 88 degrees out!
Simms
New member
Please dont forget the NY license displayed in the blaze orange license holder.
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
If someone is in a spot you want to fish, go somewhere else. There are a gazillion miles of river up there, and the flows are good.
lightenup
A fan of Boobery
Tippet comes in HOW many sizes??? I need to get shopping!!!
FIN-ITE 34
Well-known member
You have to factor in the Trout Hunter .5 sizes
lightenup
A fan of Boobery
I carry four spools.....4x to 7x..I usually only use two of them 6x and 5x...I carry the other two to fix a jacked up leader, or throw a streamer here or there....all mono, that flouro cost too much money...I see no use for it..
Rusty Spinner
Active member
17 miles of cold water full of wild trout below that dam. Plenty of other spots to head to when one of your favorites is being fished by others.
Rusty Spinner
Active member
Please, please, please - no photos of you in your Speedo from your drift boat! :crap:
WBDluver
Official NEFF pot stirrer
Hey i need all that stuff
Not me. Just an Altoids box with some flies and 3 ft of extra tippet under my hat
FIN-ITE 34
Well-known member
You could probably accomplish the same thing here screaming Allahu Akbar and shooting indiscriminately.
hatchman
Just a lucky soul,enjoying God's gifts to us.
Don't laugh, the residents of "Islamburg" are buying the closed Roods Creek Diner between Hancock and Deposit. I thought the state owned it ,but I just recently found out the current owner is in negotiations with them . Be wary Infidels! Lol!
tomfly
The only thing left should be foot prints.
CD I am 100% on board with yo on this. For one thing Banana's and boats have a aura of bad luck that emanate around them . If you are wading and in the vicinity you are caught in the bad luck field. That is why the giraffe boat is the way to go.
Simms
New member
I'm confused as to what the problem is here. For one, I prefer when others fish my spot first. It not only gives them the satisfaction of fishing a spot 'first', but it also upsets them to a upteenth degree when they catch nothing and I go in there and clean house.
Now, I dont use this as a way to gauge one's fishing 'level'/expertise as I've seen Beetle down at the ballpark one day, casting his 14' Deercreek TFO into the trees next to the fucking END ZONE, while wearing a bright white Tommy Hilfiger jacket as he sipped on a small coffee which I then stepped in and whacked and stacked.
The point of the story here is, STOP FUCKING LOOKING AT THE WATER, MOVE ELSEWHERE, AND FUCKING FISH you god damn nose-peepers.
Now, I dont use this as a way to gauge one's fishing 'level'/expertise as I've seen Beetle down at the ballpark one day, casting his 14' Deercreek TFO into the trees next to the fucking END ZONE, while wearing a bright white Tommy Hilfiger jacket as he sipped on a small coffee which I then stepped in and whacked and stacked.
The point of the story here is, STOP FUCKING LOOKING AT THE WATER, MOVE ELSEWHERE, AND FUCKING FISH you god damn nose-peepers.
mudbug201
loose loops, sink tips
Bumping this up because I've got a new story to tell that falls in this category.
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So, here's a chain of events that occurred last weekend that left me confused. Maybe somebody here can enlighten me.
I put in at Balls Eddy on the WB with my cousin and his wife. This enormous behemoth of a guide, with two weenies in his boat, puts in maybe 15 minutes before we do, and looks to be sitting river right, above the first riff, gearing up and giving his clients the usual pre-game pep talk.
I make for the left side, where the channel is, to pass him and start downriver. We were planning to set a fast pace, chuck streamers at the banks, maybe stop once or twice if we found risers, and make the Sheehawken ramp in two hours or so. I had no intention of fishing the water right below him, and didn't want to be held up waiting for him.
Just before I reach him, he sees me, pulls anchor, and floats down through the riff in front of me and anchors directly at the top of the run. It's too late for me to even give him as much space as I would want, but I just pass the dude on his left and drift past the whole pool with minimal splashing - common courtesy - before we start throwing streamers again in the tail-out, maybe 100 yards away from his boat.
A mile or two downriver we find some noses poking up in the shade under some big pines and switch to tandem dry fly rigs with duns, and a spinner or emerger on the dropper, covering the bases. We also have a couple of beers and shoot the shit for a bit, waiting to see if more fish come up.
Meanwhile, this guy catches up with us, and anchors his boat right in front of us (maybe 20 yards away), but toward the center of the river. We are set up now, and start floating along the bank, where the risers are, and AGAIN he pulls anchor and floats right in front of us. This time his clients are casting directly in front of our boat, to spots that are well within casting range for us.
So I think, "this guy's fucking weird", but I'm super polite anyway, and I say (didn't have to shout as the dude is basically 20 feet from me now):
"Hey you want us to bounce downriver a bit or hang back? We're good either way."
Nice, right? Like, more than gentlemanly. Beyond what's called for.
He doesn't respond. This big Boo Radley looking motherfucker just hunches his shoulders and glowers off in the distance, clearly enraged for some reason. His clients are now looking at me kind of apologetically, like, "sorry bro, we booked a trip with this sociopath because he was the cheapest ride on the river"
I don't like being ignored. But whatever, I really don't care one way or another since we're planning on moving downriver pretty quick anyway, and not dead set on staking out territory in one pool or another.
So I say, "look, no disrespect - just trying to stay out of your way." Again, being more deferential than the guy really deserved. Dude just stares at me with hatred.
Me, to his clients, "have a great trip guys. Good luck with that one."
And with that, I'm out. We found more risers downriver and had a good time and didn't see the guy again.
So, here's my question. Was this guy just one of the socially and mentally deficient guides that I've heard can be found on the system, but have never encountered personally?
Or did I break some kind of unspoken rule that everybody but me on the WB knows?
I never float the WB, in part because it's too freaking crowded and I don't want to have to coordinate my floating and fishing with a bunch of grumpy dudes who are not good at playing with others (probably why they love fly fishing in the first place.) So it's at least conceivable that there's some rule here that I don't know.
- - -
So, here's a chain of events that occurred last weekend that left me confused. Maybe somebody here can enlighten me.
I put in at Balls Eddy on the WB with my cousin and his wife. This enormous behemoth of a guide, with two weenies in his boat, puts in maybe 15 minutes before we do, and looks to be sitting river right, above the first riff, gearing up and giving his clients the usual pre-game pep talk.
I make for the left side, where the channel is, to pass him and start downriver. We were planning to set a fast pace, chuck streamers at the banks, maybe stop once or twice if we found risers, and make the Sheehawken ramp in two hours or so. I had no intention of fishing the water right below him, and didn't want to be held up waiting for him.
Just before I reach him, he sees me, pulls anchor, and floats down through the riff in front of me and anchors directly at the top of the run. It's too late for me to even give him as much space as I would want, but I just pass the dude on his left and drift past the whole pool with minimal splashing - common courtesy - before we start throwing streamers again in the tail-out, maybe 100 yards away from his boat.
A mile or two downriver we find some noses poking up in the shade under some big pines and switch to tandem dry fly rigs with duns, and a spinner or emerger on the dropper, covering the bases. We also have a couple of beers and shoot the shit for a bit, waiting to see if more fish come up.
Meanwhile, this guy catches up with us, and anchors his boat right in front of us (maybe 20 yards away), but toward the center of the river. We are set up now, and start floating along the bank, where the risers are, and AGAIN he pulls anchor and floats right in front of us. This time his clients are casting directly in front of our boat, to spots that are well within casting range for us.
So I think, "this guy's fucking weird", but I'm super polite anyway, and I say (didn't have to shout as the dude is basically 20 feet from me now):
"Hey you want us to bounce downriver a bit or hang back? We're good either way."
Nice, right? Like, more than gentlemanly. Beyond what's called for.
He doesn't respond. This big Boo Radley looking motherfucker just hunches his shoulders and glowers off in the distance, clearly enraged for some reason. His clients are now looking at me kind of apologetically, like, "sorry bro, we booked a trip with this sociopath because he was the cheapest ride on the river"
I don't like being ignored. But whatever, I really don't care one way or another since we're planning on moving downriver pretty quick anyway, and not dead set on staking out territory in one pool or another.
So I say, "look, no disrespect - just trying to stay out of your way." Again, being more deferential than the guy really deserved. Dude just stares at me with hatred.
Me, to his clients, "have a great trip guys. Good luck with that one."
And with that, I'm out. We found more risers downriver and had a good time and didn't see the guy again.
So, here's my question. Was this guy just one of the socially and mentally deficient guides that I've heard can be found on the system, but have never encountered personally?
Or did I break some kind of unspoken rule that everybody but me on the WB knows?
I never float the WB, in part because it's too freaking crowded and I don't want to have to coordinate my floating and fishing with a bunch of grumpy dudes who are not good at playing with others (probably why they love fly fishing in the first place.) So it's at least conceivable that there's some rule here that I don't know.
lightenup
A fan of Boobery
I have never been in a drift boat, but from what you have said, that sounds like MACFLY taking Beetle and CMM on their annual float.......
mudbug201
loose loops, sink tips
I have never been in a drift boat, but from what you have said, that sounds like MACFLY taking Beetle and CMM on their annual float.......
thought they looked familiar....
CTobias
Professional BS'r
The guy is a douche and a creek hack. You don't race people down river, especially when you have clients.
I was the "new guy" on the Kenai this year and got corked every time I was out king fishing. Getting "corked" is when another guide boat or private boat slides in right below you as you're working down river pulling lures. Sure, I got frustrated, but what can you do?
I'm just courteous to everyone and don't do things to other guides or private boats that I wouldn't want done to me. If I see guys working a run, I will start above them and move down as they move down. I've had lots of people come in and fish around me. Usually I just leave and find other water.
He was not being professional or courteous at all. Definitely uncalled for. No need for him to race you and low hole you like that.
WBDluver
Official NEFF pot stirrer
Did this guy have a beard? Had the same thing happen to me and my wife. Right above the Bible camp. He on the right throwing toward Pa so i float left, then he rows across river right in front of us. Acts like he is the only one allowed on the river and never even speaks to you. His clients did as we were loading the boat, but not him.
mudbug201
loose loops, sink tips
yes.
and I think he wore glasses? maybe the same guy.
He didn't actually look like a dick, but seriously lacked some basic people skills.
I don't float the WB but I wade it all the time. I come into contact with lots of guides, most of whom are at least courteous, even when they come around a bend to find me standing waist deep in the middle of the bubble line, standing in the best lie in the river.
Never had one act like this guy. At least he didn't threaten to board my boat like that psychopath who DC ran into last year.
golden beetle
Active member
yes.
and I think he wore glasses? maybe the same guy.
He didn't actually look like a dick, but seriously lacked some basic people skills.
I don't float the WB but I wade it all the time. I come into contact with lots of guides, most of whom are at least courteous, even when they come around a bend to find me standing waist deep in the middle of the bubble line, standing in the best lie in the river.
Never had one act like this guy. At least he didn't threaten to board my boat like that psychopath who DC ran into last year.
i float the west in a stinktoon that I got from dluver.
He and I friggin blitzed the west in our stinktoons, crashing into wade fishermen like cdun.
Seriously - you should have seen us bouncing off wade fishers like pinballs at the 191 bridge.
now he is selling out the "man" with the beard and glasses who guides the west...
Macs wife.
WBDluver
Official NEFF pot stirrer
yes.
and I think he wore glasses? maybe the same guy.
He didn't actually look like a dick, but seriously lacked some basic people skills.
I don't float the WB but I wade it all the time. I come into contact with lots of guides, most of whom are at least courteous, even when they come around a bend to find me standing waist deep in the middle of the bubble line, standing in the best lie in the river.
Never had one act like this guy. At least he didn't threaten to board my boat like that psychopath who DC ran into last year.
Yea i agree with you. This is the exception not the rule.
WBDluver
Official NEFF pot stirrer
that was Macs wife? Now i understand why he rows uncontrollably all over the river and has an attitude
