Hi bugman, i use an office chair, computer chair, whatever. It's got arm rest, swivels, very well padded, and adjustable. That's the only way to go/fly. As for vises, i have about 10 so far, and have given away a couple, the early ones, cheapos. I keep four on my tying desk at all times to just be there for drying flies or whatever. Then there's two more set up in the dinning room. And a couple more in Manhattan at my apt. I always use a pedastal, and the heavier the better. I can't stand clamp on vises because they put you to far away from the table. And your "stuff", materials just end up on the floor. Not to mention a lot of tables don't accept the clamp very well. And when you tye all over the place, that matters. One more thing. I always use the long(er) stem. sometimes you will have to order it extra/special. I do not like looking down at my flies all day/night. I like to look straight out at my fly and you can do that with the long stem and a pedastal combined. "There you go." mark