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Train Derails on West Branch
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High flows just makes it someone else’s peroblem.
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
http://www.wbng.com/story/38846595/...edium=social&utm_source=facebook_WBNG_12_News
We must ban trains in the Catskills.
We must ban trains in the Catskills.
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
While this sucks big time, that amount of fuel should disperse quickly from a one-time event. It helps that it’s lighter than water and biodegradable. Something similar happened up in VT a few years back when 2000 gallons of diesel from a ruptured tank dumped into a tiny trout stream that I fish, with zero impact.
lightenup
A fan of Boobery
Trains don't kill trout, people kill trout...and Herons, and Pikes, and Dawn dish detergent...
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
So the train was coming from Jersey, carrying sulfuric acid, contaminated soils and radioactive contaminated soils... Let's see the DRBC ban shipments like this.
Yeah, of course not...
DC needs a TRAIN FREE CATSKILLS banner...
Yeah, of course not...
http://www.wbng.com/story/38846595/train-was-hauling-corrosive-liquid-contaminated-soil
Train was hauling corrosive liquid, contaminated soil
Posted: Aug 09, 2018 3:41 AM EDT
Updated: Aug 09, 2018 12:25 PM EDT
By Seth FinkelsteinCONNECT
By Nicky HicklingCONNECT
By Esperanza GutierrezCONNECT
The Latest: Train was hauling corrosive liquid, contaminated soil
03:04
Live from Deposit train derailment - 12 p.m. Thursday
01:55
Train derailment in Deposit
03:08
10:32 P.M. UPDATE:
DEPOSIT (WBNG) -- The Department of Environmental Conservation said the train that derailed Thursday morning had radioactive content on it.
That radioactive content was in train cars that stayed upright, and did not spill.
The DEC said none of the content spilled into the Delaware River.
It also says the spill has since been contained.
The train was also carrying cars with sulfuric acid, radioactive soils, and nonradioactive contaminated soil.
Thursday evening crews were working along the railroad tracks near Hale Eddy Road.
The National Park Service said two locomotives were removed early Thursday afternoon.
Employees from the New York Susquehanna and Western Railway say they were in the process of putting together rail ties. They say part of the train destroyed rail ties, making it almost impossible to drive on them.
Thursday evening part of the train was able to move to Hancock. The other half is what crews still need to pick up.
Residents in the area say they saw the diesel fuel that landed into the Delaware River.
"This woman stopped us and showed me some photos of geese up in the river that were covered in oil," said Jolene Smith of Hale Eddy. "So I went up this afternoon and found them a long the edge of the river and they were just covered from head to toe."
At the time the train was traveling into Deposit the area was under a state of emergency.
Crews with the New York Susquehanna and Western Railway did not wish to speak on camera about this.
12 News did reach out to their office in Cooperstown and were told no one would be available for an on-camera interview.
Despite the derailment happening in Delaware county 12 News reached out to his office since the train was headed to the Binghamton area and Broome County had declared the state of emergency.
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6:00 P.M. UPDATE:
DEPOSIT (WBNG) -- Route 17 East between exits 83 and 84 are open as two lanes again.
The cranes have arrived to Hale Eddy Road to start removing the derailed cars. State police said removing the derailed cars and clean up could take days.
The National Park Service have confirmed that 4,000 gallons of diesel fuel did spill from one locomotive. The Department of Environmental Conservation said the diesel fluid on the water is very thin and remains on the surface.
The National Park Service said two locomotives were extricated earlier this afternoon.
12:15 P.M. UPDATE:
The National Park Service is warning people to stay away from the Delaware River near Deposit because of the train derailment Thursday morning.
"New York Department of Environmental Conservation estimates up to 4000 gallons of diesel fuel leaked with a significant amount' having spilled into the river," according to the park service.
Park service officials say the diesel oil slick "has entered the main stem of the Delaware River and can be seen as far down as the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission’s Buckingham Access."
Authorities say Wednesday night's rain is pushing the diesel fuel down the river at a higher than normal rate.
"River users are advised not to come in contact with the water and swimming is not advised at this time," the park service said.
Property owners are asked to notify the National Park Service if they notice any fuel in pools and near or on the shoreline by calling Superintendent Kris Heister at 570-729-8251 ext. 2225.
Yeah, of course not...
DC needs a TRAIN FREE CATSKILLS banner...
Yeah, of course not...
http://www.wbng.com/story/38846595/train-was-hauling-corrosive-liquid-contaminated-soil
Train was hauling corrosive liquid, contaminated soil
Posted: Aug 09, 2018 3:41 AM EDT
Updated: Aug 09, 2018 12:25 PM EDT
By Seth FinkelsteinCONNECT
By Nicky HicklingCONNECT
By Esperanza GutierrezCONNECT
The Latest: Train was hauling corrosive liquid, contaminated soil
03:04
Live from Deposit train derailment - 12 p.m. Thursday
01:55
Train derailment in Deposit
03:08
10:32 P.M. UPDATE:
DEPOSIT (WBNG) -- The Department of Environmental Conservation said the train that derailed Thursday morning had radioactive content on it.
That radioactive content was in train cars that stayed upright, and did not spill.
The DEC said none of the content spilled into the Delaware River.
It also says the spill has since been contained.
The train was also carrying cars with sulfuric acid, radioactive soils, and nonradioactive contaminated soil.
Thursday evening crews were working along the railroad tracks near Hale Eddy Road.
The National Park Service said two locomotives were removed early Thursday afternoon.
Employees from the New York Susquehanna and Western Railway say they were in the process of putting together rail ties. They say part of the train destroyed rail ties, making it almost impossible to drive on them.
Thursday evening part of the train was able to move to Hancock. The other half is what crews still need to pick up.
Residents in the area say they saw the diesel fuel that landed into the Delaware River.
"This woman stopped us and showed me some photos of geese up in the river that were covered in oil," said Jolene Smith of Hale Eddy. "So I went up this afternoon and found them a long the edge of the river and they were just covered from head to toe."
At the time the train was traveling into Deposit the area was under a state of emergency.
Crews with the New York Susquehanna and Western Railway did not wish to speak on camera about this.
12 News did reach out to their office in Cooperstown and were told no one would be available for an on-camera interview.
Despite the derailment happening in Delaware county 12 News reached out to his office since the train was headed to the Binghamton area and Broome County had declared the state of emergency.
------------------
6:00 P.M. UPDATE:
DEPOSIT (WBNG) -- Route 17 East between exits 83 and 84 are open as two lanes again.
The cranes have arrived to Hale Eddy Road to start removing the derailed cars. State police said removing the derailed cars and clean up could take days.
The National Park Service have confirmed that 4,000 gallons of diesel fuel did spill from one locomotive. The Department of Environmental Conservation said the diesel fluid on the water is very thin and remains on the surface.
The National Park Service said two locomotives were extricated earlier this afternoon.
12:15 P.M. UPDATE:
The National Park Service is warning people to stay away from the Delaware River near Deposit because of the train derailment Thursday morning.
"New York Department of Environmental Conservation estimates up to 4000 gallons of diesel fuel leaked with a significant amount' having spilled into the river," according to the park service.
Park service officials say the diesel oil slick "has entered the main stem of the Delaware River and can be seen as far down as the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission’s Buckingham Access."
Authorities say Wednesday night's rain is pushing the diesel fuel down the river at a higher than normal rate.
"River users are advised not to come in contact with the water and swimming is not advised at this time," the park service said.
Property owners are asked to notify the National Park Service if they notice any fuel in pools and near or on the shoreline by calling Superintendent Kris Heister at 570-729-8251 ext. 2225.
hatchman
Just a lucky soul,enjoying God's gifts to us.
I passed the clean up and emergency crews Thursday morning while driving on rt17 east bound and you could smell the diesel fuel in the air while driving by. As previously mentioned ,the high flows due to the heavy rain will help dilute and disperse the diesel fuel,still sucks though. Thank God the Sulphuric acid didn't spill into the river. That would have been a much bigger disaster. I've read stories of acid spills from trains into rivers killing all aquatic life and fish in a large part of the river.
hatchman
Just a lucky soul,enjoying God's gifts to us.
Yeah....Those pesky McCloud river 20" torpedo like rainbows.....Lol!
Oil and water don’t mix, so dilution is out of the question. The high waters makes it difficult if impossible to contain the oil and therefore will be someone else’s problem down stream.
hatchman
Just a lucky soul,enjoying God's gifts to us.
Hopefully they’ll be able to use some type of oil boom down the
Line to skim the diesel fuel . I remember hearing about a type of
Enzyme that digests and breaks down the oil also. During
The major floods of years past I’m sure almost as much or more
Heating oil and diesel was washed into the river and it rebounded .
WBDluver
Official NEFF pot stirrer
Please clarify who had zero impact on the trout. You or the diesel fuel
dcabarle
Administrator
I liked the first train better!
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
That particular stream is one where I typically go double-digits with the brook trout. Was that way prior to the spill, still that way now.
Diesel is biodegradable. Diesel and crude are actually great carbon sources for bacteria. I used to work for a company where we isolated diesel metabolizing bacteria from contaminated soil, grew them in the lab in increasing concentrations of the fuel, then grew them in quantity to inject back down into contaminated wells and underground tanks. Those big oil tanks you see at refineries and storage facilities that store crude and diesel have lots of biocide added to prevent microbial growth.
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
More rain, more problems...
Officials say small NY dam could fail because of rains
Aug 13, 2018 Updated 9 hrs ago
HANCOCK, N.Y. (AP) — Officials are warning that recent heavy rains have taken a toll on a small dam in New York's Southern Tier, and they've declared a state of emergency at the dam.
Hancock Town Supervisor W. Jerry Vernold says in a proclamation issued Monday that the rain has caused "a potential dam failure" at the Bear Brook Road dam, and no authorized people should be around it.
WBNG-TV reports that the dam isn't in immediate danger of collapsing, but parts have been weakened by the weather. The TV station says a handful of homes and a couple of municipal buildings are in the potential flood area.
The dam is at a former town reservoir but is now privately owned. It's about 45 miles southeast of Binghamton, near the Pennsylvania border.
Officials say small NY dam could fail because of rains
Aug 13, 2018 Updated 9 hrs ago
HANCOCK, N.Y. (AP) — Officials are warning that recent heavy rains have taken a toll on a small dam in New York's Southern Tier, and they've declared a state of emergency at the dam.
Hancock Town Supervisor W. Jerry Vernold says in a proclamation issued Monday that the rain has caused "a potential dam failure" at the Bear Brook Road dam, and no authorized people should be around it.
WBNG-TV reports that the dam isn't in immediate danger of collapsing, but parts have been weakened by the weather. The TV station says a handful of homes and a couple of municipal buildings are in the potential flood area.
The dam is at a former town reservoir but is now privately owned. It's about 45 miles southeast of Binghamton, near the Pennsylvania border.
. Stay home. I think the diesel has somehow reached the East and put the fish down.
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
Well, more diesel DID get spilled from an overturned locomotive...
One local river related businessman is concerned. Ray the eel guy:
http://www.wbng.com/video?clipId=14559774&autostart=true
Now, I put his prognostications right up there with that video clip of the local guide some years ago who said something along the lines of "It's like spraying Raid on your beehive."
Good stuff...
One local river related businessman is concerned. Ray the eel guy:
http://www.wbng.com/video?clipId=14559774&autostart=true
Now, I put his prognostications right up there with that video clip of the local guide some years ago who said something along the lines of "It's like spraying Raid on your beehive."
Good stuff...
Pete
Trout Hunter
The link defaulted to a different clip, but if look for it, the "eel guy" clip is still available.
Future Fanatic
Nirvana
Thanks Pete.
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