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Sunday morning FRUITCAKE seminar at the Symposium with, Gary Borger 7:30am

WBDluver said:
What the heck is that? Some sort of skin discoloration. It looks like a clown threw up on your arm. If I were you I would see a doctor fast.
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It's a blue sperm on fire. Anyone can see that. No where near as nice as all my black prison tattoos
 
lightenup said:
Just another rationalization for proof your god doesn't exist....it keeps getting more and more difficult to believe with the advancement of science .....
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Hmm don't think so. That's not what the article says at all. Learn to read you boob
 
MACFLY said:
Hmm don't think so. That's not what the article says at all. Learn to read you boob
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I read it...and I read your bible.....they contradict each other.....comprehend boob.....your books and teachers contradict each other constantly...
 
lightenup said:
I read it...and I read your bible.....they contradict each other.....comprehend boob.....your books and teachers contradict each other constantly...
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Maybe the problem is you read it but didn't understand it. which is really the most important part:)
 
MACFLY said:
I see you missed my Seinfeld reference. Tragic
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I'm sorry I don't watch Seinfeld, occasional re-runs, but not enough to catch a reference to pop-culture trash....

your life revolves around a 2000 year old fairy tale, and 15 year old poop-culture.......Trajic

So, explain to me the Seinfeld reference?:)
 
MACFLY said:
Hmm don't think so. That's not what the article says at all. Learn to read you boob
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Let's keep it light and simple.

In the Bible, it states that God made the world in six days...
The Pope, in effect, just said "No, God didn't"

The Pope just proclaimed that we CANNOT trust as true, the words in the Bible...

No biggie...
 
Future Fanatic said:
Let's keep it light and simple.

In the Bible, it states that God made the world in six days...
The Pope, in effect, just said "No, God didn't"

The Pope just proclaimed that we CANNOT trust as true, the words in the Bible...

No biggie...
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Well not exactly. Rather then try to convince you let me just give you his exact statements. I know the media likes to jump on these things and put thier own spin on it but his words are much different then what you are reading in the tabloids that lighten up likes to read

Pope Franics said this:

When we read in Genesis the account of Creation, we risk imagining God as a magus, with a magic wand able to make everything. But it is not so. He created beings and allowed them to develop according to the internal laws that He gave to each one, so that they were able to develop and to arrive [at] their fullness of being. He gave autonomy to the beings of the Universe at the same time at which he assured them of his continuous presence, giving being to every reality. And so creation continued for centuries and centuries, millennia and millennia, until it became which we know today, precisely because God is not a demiurge or a conjurer, but the Creator who gives being to all things. The beginning of the world is not the work of chaos that owes its origin to another, but derives directly from a supreme Origin that creates out of love. The Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world, does not contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires it. The evolution of nature does not contrast with the notion of Creation, as evolution presupposes the creation of beings that evolve.

With regard to man, instead, there is a change and something new. When, on the sixth day of the account in Genesis, man is created, God gives the human being another autonomy, an autonomy that is different to that of nature, which is freedom. And he tells man to name everything and to go ahead through history. This makes him responsible for creation, so that he might dominate it in order to develop it until the end of time. Therefore the scientist, and above all the Christian scientist, must adopt the approach of posing questions regarding the future of humanity and of the earth, and, of being free and responsible, helping to prepare it and preserve it, to eliminate risks to the environment of both a natural and human nature. But, at the same time, the scientist must be motivated by the confidence that nature hides, in her evolutionary mechanisms, potentialities for intelligence and freedom to discover and realise, to achieve the development that is in the plan of the Creator. So, while limited, the action of humanity is part of God’s power and is able to build a world suited to his dual corporal and spiritual life; to build a human world for all human beings and not for a group or a class of privileged persons. This hope and trust in God, the Creator of nature, and in the capacity of the human spirit can offer the researcher a new energy and profound serenity. But it is also true that the action of humanity – when freedom becomes autonomy – which is not freedom, but autonomy – destroys creation and man takes the place of the Creator. And this is the grave sin against God the Creator.
 
MACFLY said:
Well not exactly. Rather then try to convince you let me just give you his exact statements. I know the media likes to jump on these things and put thier own spin on it but his words are much different then what you are reading in the tabloids that lighten up likes to read

Pope Franics said this:

When we read in Genesis the account of Creation, we risk imagining God as a magus, with a magic wand able to make everything. But it is not so. He created beings and allowed them to develop according to the internal laws that He gave to each one, so that they were able to develop and to arrive [at] their fullness of being. He gave autonomy to the beings of the Universe at the same time at which he assured them of his continuous presence, giving being to every reality. And so creation continued for centuries and centuries, millennia and millennia, until it became which we know today, precisely because God is not a demiurge or a conjurer, but the Creator who gives being to all things. The beginning of the world is not the work of chaos that owes its origin to another, but derives directly from a supreme Origin that creates out of love. The Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world, does not contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires it. The evolution of nature does not contrast with the notion of Creation, as evolution presupposes the creation of beings that evolve.

With regard to man, instead, there is a change and something new. When, on the sixth day of the account in Genesis, man is created, God gives the human being another autonomy, an autonomy that is different to that of nature, which is freedom. And he tells man to name everything and to go ahead through history. This makes him responsible for creation, so that he might dominate it in order to develop it until the end of time. Therefore the scientist, and above all the Christian scientist, must adopt the approach of posing questions regarding the future of humanity and of the earth, and, of being free and responsible, helping to prepare it and preserve it, to eliminate risks to the environment of both a natural and human nature. But, at the same time, the scientist must be motivated by the confidence that nature hides, in her evolutionary mechanisms, potentialities for intelligence and freedom to discover and realise, to achieve the development that is in the plan of the Creator. So, while limited, the action of humanity is part of God’s power and is able to build a world suited to his dual corporal and spiritual life; to build a human world for all human beings and not for a group or a class of privileged persons. This hope and trust in God, the Creator of nature, and in the capacity of the human spirit can offer the researcher a new energy and profound serenity. But it is also true that the action of humanity – when freedom becomes autonomy – which is not freedom, but autonomy – destroys creation and man takes the place of the Creator. And this is the grave sin against God the Creator.
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What about all the other gods and religions, are they all wrong? He is rationalizing(and so are you), now that science can prove the bible wrong, he is making things up to keep his religions hold on the masses,....Mac you are blinded by your dogma......

The bible would make us believe that god is a magician and all powerful....for fuck's sake he turned a woman into a pillar of salt, and destroyed cities in a day, and his son turned water into wine, and he created a woman with a rib, and created the world in 6 days, and made a fish spit gold, and parted the Red sea for Moses......should I continue?

BTW, I don't read that crap, I find it to inspire your posts.....:)
 
lightenup said:
What about all the other gods and religions, are they all wrong? He is rationalizing(and so are you), now that science can prove the bible wrong, he is making things up to keep his religions hold on the masses,....Mac you are blinded by your dogma......

The bible would make us believe that god is a magician and all powerful....for fuck's sake he turned a woman into a pillar of salt, and destroyed cities in a day, and his son turned water into wine, and he created a woman with a rib, and created the world in 6 days, and made a fish spit gold, and parted the Red sea for Moses......should I continue?

BTW, I don't read that crap, I find it to inspire your posts.....:)
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I'm blinded by my dogma. That's the first time anyone has ever said that to me:)

Whether you read the bible or not makes no difference to me. You have a right to believe or not to believe. Carry on boob boy
 
Future Fanatic said:
....In the Bible, it states that God made the world in six days......
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Before you hang your hat on that one....
Before there was a "world", what was a "day".

These arguments have been going on since arguing was invented.
Face it. The existence of God can neither be proved nor disproved.
Did you all flunk the Philosophy introductory course?
 
Pete said:
Before you hang your hat on that one....
Before there was a "world", what was a "day".

These arguments have been going on since arguing was invented.
Face it. The existence of God can neither be proved nor disproved.
Did you all flunk the Philosophy introductory course?
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Go ahead Pete....ruin the fun.....:)
 
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