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Spinners?
- Thread starter Andre
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Scott
Salmo salar Sebago finatic
Sorry I don't have an accurate answer for you, but I would think that subfreezing temps would be bad for them. They may not be making it to the spinner stage until the air temps stay above freezing at night.
BUT--- Olives, huh? What have the water temps been like in your spring creek?
BUT--- Olives, huh? What have the water temps been like in your spring creek?
NJFred
Trout Hunter
Andre,
I think any temperature below freezing would certainly kill any mayflys. My guess would be that unless the temps are above 32 the little guys don't get to procreate and are toast. However if above 32 degees, they may actually be coming down in the middle of the day. You may not notice as I would guess there are not swarms of them.
All of this is just my guess. It's a great question!
I think any temperature below freezing would certainly kill any mayflys. My guess would be that unless the temps are above 32 the little guys don't get to procreate and are toast. However if above 32 degees, they may actually be coming down in the middle of the day. You may not notice as I would guess there are not swarms of them.
All of this is just my guess. It's a great question!
JOE.T
Dry Flies Only
Andre,
No its to cold for them to mate at night with these sub-freezing temps.
Depending on how much below freezing the temps go many do survive.They find refuge in logs and branches, piles of leaves,etc to find warmth.Well enough warmth to help them to survive.If that where not the case than you wouldnt see so many of these species year after year on the spring creeks at this time of the year when it still can be cold.
Knowing where you fish I am guessing you are you are seeing Baetis Vagans right now 16/18's.Typically with that species you wont see the typical spinner falls where there are thousands of females laid spent on the streams surface.The males fly off into the trees to die after copulation and the females with crawl back into the stream and lay there eggs sub-surface.
No its to cold for them to mate at night with these sub-freezing temps.
Depending on how much below freezing the temps go many do survive.They find refuge in logs and branches, piles of leaves,etc to find warmth.Well enough warmth to help them to survive.If that where not the case than you wouldnt see so many of these species year after year on the spring creeks at this time of the year when it still can be cold.
Knowing where you fish I am guessing you are you are seeing Baetis Vagans right now 16/18's.Typically with that species you wont see the typical spinner falls where there are thousands of females laid spent on the streams surface.The males fly off into the trees to die after copulation and the females with crawl back into the stream and lay there eggs sub-surface.
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mating habits of Vagans
Andre - u ought to get a good look at the newest video of fellow NJ flangler Ozzie. He has sequences of our spring creeks and his shots of the spent female olives are a revelation to me.
The springer I last saw you at when I was ffishing a 6' Mike Shay and u had a Bill Taylor version of the Perfectionist has afternoons where you can see the trouts dorsaling - not quite sipping.
Hmmm - I've already said too much.... :judge:
tl
les
Andre - u ought to get a good look at the newest video of fellow NJ flangler Ozzie. He has sequences of our spring creeks and his shots of the spent female olives are a revelation to me.
The springer I last saw you at when I was ffishing a 6' Mike Shay and u had a Bill Taylor version of the Perfectionist has afternoons where you can see the trouts dorsaling - not quite sipping.
Hmmm - I've already said too much.... :judge:
tl
les
Andre, those Olives you are seeing are probably Baetis, and the females and the males both crawl under the water. The females, to lay their eggs, the male's reason is anybodys guess' but they don't behave like most Mayflies when it comes to Spinnerfalls. You could fish an Olive emerger near rocks and sticks that protrude into the water on the edges.
I vote for sunken spinners and their earlier versions the soft hackle wet fly in appropriate size and color.
Some of the Lehigh Valley limestoners are hammered so hard during trico time the fish stop rising to the spinner fall after a few weeks and either hit the early morning hatch or do the sunk spinner thing. Just started seeing this a couple of years ago.
Some of the Lehigh Valley limestoners are hammered so hard during trico time the fish stop rising to the spinner fall after a few weeks and either hit the early morning hatch or do the sunk spinner thing. Just started seeing this a couple of years ago.
