Ramapo River restoration is back on for Oakland

[Pete]

JohnW:
With the exception of a pipeline, Bear Swamp Brook is pretty well preserved. Surrounded by Camp YawPaw, Ringwood State Park, a County Park, and some preserved farmland. It's been designated a "Wild Trout Stream". The only problem, is no legal parking, but you can hike in from Ramapo Reservation Park.
I don't know the timetable, but there's a rumor that TU has convinced the State to drain Bear Swamp Lake.

The Glen Gray Camp is now a County Park. As I understand it, former Scouts are running it Camp Glen Gray

 

[Johnw]

JohnW:
With the exception of a pipeline, Bear Swamp Brook is pretty well preserved. Surrounded by Camp YawPaw, Ringwood State Park, a County Park, and some preserved farmland. It's been designated a "Wild Trout Stream". The only problem, is no legal parking, but you can hike in from Ramapo Reservation Park.
I don't know the timetable, but there's a rumor that TU has convinced the State to drain Bear Swamp Lake.

The Glen Gray Camp is now a County Park. As I understand it, former Scouts are running it Camp Glen Gray

Thanks. Good on the brook.

 

[Rusty Spinner]

This is somewhat off topic but mention of that area brings back memories for me. When I was a teenager, about 70years ago I often fished I think was Bear Swamp brook which paralelled the road leading to Camp Yaw Paw. At that time there was a healthy population of brookies there. I also spent several Summers at the Glen Gray boy scout camp but never fished the brook that ran next to the road to Glen Gray. Wondering how all that has changed over the years. I believe both boy scout camps have long since closed.

Bear Swamp is still a brookie stream and TU and Native Fish Coalition are working together to remove the dam on it which is in very rough shape. That summer camp was closed for decades and the land is part of the NJ State Park system. I can't speak to the other tributary. Both would be located in Mahwah and not in Oakland although I don't know the Glen Gray Road trib at all and that is the dividing line between the two towns.

 

[Pete]

Re: The Glen Gray Road tributary "Fox Brook" received C-1 protection in 2020.

Speculation...
I've never fished it... I always assumed that the top release dam at Lake Vreeland, made it a warm water stream, but it's possible that it's headwaters (upstream from the lake), and it's tributaries produce isolated populations of trout.

I fished Lake Vreeland once. The bass were so easy that it wasn't a challenge. Unless you rent a boat, there are too many restrictions on where you may fish. I never went back.

 

[Johnw]

Re: The Glen Gray Road tributary "Fox Brook" received C-1 protection in 2020.

Speculation...
I've never fished it... I always assumed that the top release dam at Lake Vreeland, made it a warm water stream, but it's possible that it's headwaters (upstream from the lake), and it's tributaries produce isolated populations of trout.

I fished Lake Vreeland once. The bass were so easy that it wasn't a challenge. Unless you rent a boat, there are too many restrictions on where you may fish. I never went back.

Thanks.