New Loomis 10' Czech Nymphing Rods

[jcstikfish]

Anyone out there own, or have had the chance to fish one of these new 10' 3 or 4 weights by Loomis?

Not a huge Loomis user myself, but like this rod configuration.

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~James

 

[CreekAddict]

They aren't worth it to me for $650.


The Grey's 10' 3wt is near perfect for the euro nymphing applications, and it's only 300 bucks.

If you are going to spend that kind of money, you might be better off getting the Thomas and Thomas 10' 4wt Helix. Or better yet, the 11' 3wt Loop, or 11' 5wt Hardy Marksmen.

 

[JeffK]

I like the Grey's Streamflex 10' 3 wt (fished with a 4 wt line) a lot. I have built 4 other 10' rods over the last 10 years and the Grey's is much, much lighter in hand. At only $300 it is not worth my time to build a similar rod from a blank. 10 years ago it was hard to find a light 10' rod so I was forced to go the DIY route. Not worth it today.

Czech nymphing is fine, but a long, light rod is also good for mending traditional wet flies and highsticking dries. This summer I fished the 10' rod nearly all the time and Czech nymphing is something I rarely do in the summer.

 

[CreekAddict]

That's something a lot of people don't mention when the talk about the Grey's. It is a great little dry fly rod. I don't fish wets much, but from the little I do know about them, I think I would prefer the 4wt Grey's over the 3wt. That's not to say it won't get the job done though!

 

[dale rushby]

I have the Greys Streamflex 4 & 5 weights in the 10' four piece...The 4 is fine for anything i need through the summer and autumn...dry or spider fishing / nymphing...but i do prefer the 5 weight for heavy bugging through the winter for Grayling on the bigger rivers...hope this helps...

 

[jcstikfish]

They aren't worth it to me for $650.


The Grey's 10' 3wt is near perfect for the euro nymphing applications, and it's only 300 bucks.

If you are going to spend that kind of money, you might be better off getting the Thomas and Thomas 10' 4wt Helix. Or better yet, the 11' 3wt Loop, or 11' 5wt Hardy Marksmen.

Agreed. I have the four weight Greys, and it is a lot of bang for the buck.

~James

 

[ajfromnj]

A lightweight 10-foot, fast-action nymphing rod designed for the Czech Nymph technique where lighter leaders are required. Features a light, responsive tip for sensitivity and a very stiff lower 3/4th of the rod to help flick weighted nymphs in runs where trout are feeding on the bottom

This is the description from the GLoomis site.

If I had to describe the ideal rod for this application that would be the paragraph. Its hard to cast the rig unless the rod 2/3 heavy butt section. The Greys rod is an ideal short leader nymphing rod. It is not what I would consider good for long leader styles of fishing. The rod does not have enough beef in the lower two thirds of the rod. This is essential for casting the smaller, lightly weighted flies. To be honest, I really like fishing my 9 foot 4 weight BIIX for casting lighter flies. I will try to get my hands on one to demo, because I like the description. The only X Factor here is the price! 650... I have a LOOP that retails for 660 and that rod would have to really be substantially better for me to use it before the LOOP.

The Hardy Marksman is a good all around rod for fishing the weighted flies and wets. It's not much good for dries, maybe in a pinch. That rod really shines with the wet flies. The casting and mending ability are second to none. That rod, however, would be my fourth choice. That is, after the LOOP, Greys and Winston are broken!

 

[coolkyle]

Personally I like a slower rod for Czech nymphing, because the water tension can load the rod a bit better for the flick upstream.

 

[ajfromnj]

Coolkyle,

The stiffer but section and soft tip will eliminate the need to water load the cast. With my LOOP rod, which is a similar configuation as what that rod should be, I am able to cast without letting the flies touch the water. You have to keep in mind that the companies that are billing these rods as Czech or Euro style rods have guys with competiton experience designing them for them. If an angler in a competiton had to water load the cast, they would lose fishing time becuase the flies are not fishing when they are in the air. If I were you, I would learn to cast the flies, rather than water loading the cast. Just keep in mind, this is only a suggestion. If you feel that what you are doing is fine then keep at it. This would only result in less time with the flies out of the water and more time with the flies in the water. After all, the more that your flies are in the water, the more fish that they will hopefully hook.

 

[Twism]

For a 10' czech nymph stick whats everyones opinion on 3 vs 4 wt? Im leaning toward a 4 just so i can handle some bigger water.

 

[CreekAddict]

The 3 has a better action. It has no problem landing bigger fish.

 

[jcstikfish]

The 3 has a better action. It has no problem landing bigger fish.

If you are referring to the the Steamflex rods, I feel the 3 blank is really a little bit closer to most other 4 weights and the 4 is close to a 5.


~James

 

[CreekAddict]

I figured he was talking about the streamflex.

 

[ajfromnj]

Tom,

How many opinions do you need in order to buy the rod

Go get the 4 weight. You can do a lot more than just fish the weighted nymphs with it. It's good for dries, wets and even small streamers in a pinch.

As for the rods being under-rated I would say that's very far from the truth. If we were talking about a BIIMX or the old SAGE TCR I would agree. In my opinion, as I have fished with all three rods in question, as they are very close to what the label says. Remember, there is a variance between line weights. They all fit into the scale for each weight class or they would be labled appropriately.

3 weight:

all weighted flies and some dry fly applications...

4 weight

weighted nymphs, wet flies, dries, indicator nymphing and small streamers

5 weight

don't bother

 

[jamiep]

I Bought the #3 and while i never cast a 4 i love this thing very very responsive and for some strange reason when i snag up i dont seem to be losing much flies. its a great rod and one of my favorites so far.