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New guy, Upstate NY(Ballston Lake) area.

SClay

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Figured it would be a good idea to at least introduce myself before asking any questions on the forum here. Been fishing since I was very young, and recently relocated to NY from the Orlando area, where it was surf fishing on the beach and flats fishing in the lagoons, all on standard spinning gear, no fly.

So before I moved up here, picked up a fly rod after having done it for a short time a few years prior and had a go at it again. And since moving up here, obviously, the motives have shifted to freshwater game.

I've tried to do my fair share of research on the local streams, creeks, and rivers, and have been out to the Kayaderosseras a few times, but have come up empty. Little to no fish activity, no hits, nada. I have read that maybe this particular piece of water is over-fished, which certainly seems like the case, but any truth to that rumor?

And I'm not asking for anyone to give up some secret spot goodness, but what other blue lines should I look into? As I mentioned, just getting into the freshwater fly deal, so I'm still learning, but hey, it would be groovy to catch something. And I dig on exploring, so I certainly am not asking for specifics on where to go, just maybe some helpful hints.

Same goes for flies. Honestly, I'm totally in the dark here. In Florida, fish eat other fish, or crabs, or shrimp. So it's easy, 'Hey this fly looks like a baitfish! Sweet!'. These trout flies are completely foreign to me. I've looked into the hatch charts, and really made it a point to look around at the creek, but nothing is on most of the charts for this time of year, and there is very little insect activitiy when I arrive. I understand this could be a point where I should be thinking about what is active under the surface, but not having a seine, or my snorkel, I can't really tell what's going on. The seine is on the list of 'things to get' however(this list is long).

So hey, if you can, help a rookie out. If not, that's cool, if I stumbled upon a pristine piece of water and the perfect fly, I'd be hard pressed to give it up too. But any help and any suggestions I think at this point are good ones.

Steve
 
SClay,
Welcome aboard. I'm about an hour north of you. The K does get hammered pretty hard. Your are however, close to some good fisheries with less pressure. Wait about a 3 weeks before you expect anything super. Water is cold here still. May is the true start for the upstate region.
 
Welcome aboard!

I haven't fished them, but (i hear) there are actually some pretty decent little trout creeks quite near you. My girlfriend's brother just picked up fly fishing on easter, and already has a couple under his belt; he's out in Glenville.

There is a lot of good water around. The adirondacks, catskills, washington and rensselaer counties all have a lot to offer for trout. My roommate and some other friends have been out to the Kay quite a bit, but I never hear of them doing well there. I live in cohoes and we hit the Mohawk around the islands almost every day in summer for smallmouth. Right now I'm chasing the wild and holdover trout in tiny "local" creeks.

Far as flies go...stockies will eat anything for the first couple weeks; any kind of nymph, streamer, buggers...foam beetles are my favorite. The small creek that I consider my home water is FULL of little black and little yellow stoneflies. The resident fish seem to be liking tiny black buggers right now. The little black stones are coming off the water in droves at times. I even got bit by a mosquito yesterday; this weather is definately kicking bug activity into high gear down here.

Check DEC's public fishing rights maps (if you havent already); there is some good info there (some would say too much...).

Public Fishing Rights Maps - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation
 
nice to see another local flyfisherman... the K wont produce too much until the bass season opens and eryone clears out. unfortunatly in the past 12 years or so that ive fished it, i've only caught a few "nice" fish. however, i've taught a lot of friends and family how to fly fish on the K. there are some great spots that are easy to get to and wide open. Rock City road offers a few nice spots but i didnt get any action there this morning. Kelly's Park in Ballston spa has a lot of nice spots and is pretty quiet if you walk down stream a bit ( just follow the tracks that the teenagers leave back into the woods).
Shenedehowa highschool (Clifton Park) offers flyfishing lessons on occasion and the intructor is very good. also, pick up a copy of "essential fly fishing" at Borders. it's a great book and i recently just read it and learned a few new things.
lots of good water around the Balsston lake area. the Glowagee is decent if you can find a spot, the indian kill in scotia is supposed to be decent but i've never fished it, there's also a stream on Van Vorst rd. that i learned about this year that might have some promise. as far as fly patterns... i like to throw on small nymphs this time year and on a warm day i'll trail it from a small dry fly... it seems to work great!
if you need new equipment, there's an Orvis outlet in lake george tucked into the outlets off of exit 21. Goldstock's in scotia is pretty decent and the guys there might be able to help you out with fly selections.

good luck to ya and im sure we'll run into eachother on the K!
 
Hi

Welcome. You have the Kaydeross up that way. IMO, fished out some. From Rt 50 in Ballston Spa, go out towards the Navy sight out there. That part of the Kaydeross is ok.
Saratoga Lake, a joke.Too many tourists.
Lake George as well.
You are 20 miles from the Kinderhook, which is great for the past couple years.
Also, the Poestenkill Gorge, outside of Troy going East out RT 2 towards Vt. Not far out of Troy.
3-5 lb Browns out of this place.
You can get by with a 4/5 weight and some easy runs. Also, Dry fly in June, faster rod is what this place is about!
The Battenkill, trying to save it I hear.
Good luck
Jimmy
Lot of Anglers up towards the Chenago area.
Again, great area for trout.
Good luck
 
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