Fly tying question.

[Oliver10]

I am not a great tier. Some of you are. I want to tie a fly that mimics two flies mating midges or mayflies.

I often see them like this (above) or at right angles. I have been reading about people who tie reverse flies becasue it helps make the tippet enter the water and leaves the fly looking more clean. Like so.


I want to buy these hooks (below) and bend them out to 90 degrees or so and tie two reverse flies so that it looks like two flies joined at the ass end mating.

Thoughts? tips? am I wasting my time or could this be a deadly pattern that I could become well known for.

My shitty drawing of what I was thinking, but I would open the angle to 90 or so.

[MENTION=1924]Matt Grobert[/MENTION]@tomfly @Johnny Utah

 

[WBDluver]

What mating position would that be? Sideways?

 

[MACFLY]

That's called the gilded mayfly position. I tried this with asian girl once. I had shin splints for a week but it was worth it

 

[Oliver10]

That's called the gilded mayfly position. I tried this with amassing girls once. I had shin splints for a week but it was worth it

Ha ha ha beetle is probably jealous

 

[lightenup]

I'm just guessing, but I think a Griffith's gnat would work well in a situation where trout are feeding on midge sex....or......Matt's Gnat on Vimeo......

 

[FIN-ITE 34]

TMC 101 Hook (Or some long shank dry fly hook)
Black 8/0 thread (you can dub the thorax or just use the thread)
Grizzly hackle
Start black thread at hook bend and build up at hook bend for thorax 1. Tie in one hackle at bend and make two or three turns. Tie off hackle. Taper thread down to mid hook shank and build up again just back of hook eye. This will be both abdomen sections. Build up thread behind eye to form thorax 2. Tie in second hackle and make two or three turns. Tie off and you are done.

 

[tomfly]

Ollie,

I like the concept. I would come up with a different method; I have found that bending hooks tend to make the hooks brittle or cause breakage while bending them. I have been known to come up with some bazaar flies. Some I have hade a pretty fair amount of success, with others not so much. I have also observed when a fly is not proportionally aerodynamic, it have a tendency to spin while casting. This causes an unpleasant effect on your leader and tippet. If I were to attempting to make a fly such as yours, I would probably use a size 16 fine wire hook and tie comparable size 20 imitation on both ends of the hook ( like it has been done in the past). I would also conceder tying one fly on a section of mono filament and marry it on a hook and tye the corresponding fly on the hook. I would not angle the two halves. They are going to spin. Mono might be tough solution to accomplish because of the small sizes of midges. Most of my midges are fairly rudimentary. The patterns that I use are basically a thread body and a hackle. Sizes 20 -28

I hope this helps.

 

[Flytrap]

 

[Matt Grobert]

Oliver,

Interesting idea, I'm not sure a double hook opened like that would provide good hook-ups. I think you are better off to just tie a Griffith's or Matt's Gnat - I don't think trout are that selective when they are feeding that they would reject a well-placed single gnat. If you really want to have two flies on a single hook, tie two on a light weight long-shanked dry fly hook and maybe bend it slightly.

Let us know how you do if you tie and fish a double midge imitation.

Matt

 

[Rusty Spinner]

What mating position would that be? Sideways?

Finally, a fly fishing thread that requires referencing the Kama Sutra. It was all just a matter of time...

 

[Johnny Utah]

oliver,
A pretty neat idea, but I would just tie before n afters. They work great and can be tied in tiny midge sizes. For a little extra add a holographic or opal tinsel mid section to the fly. Ive found that can make the difference on midging trout.

 

[FIN-ITE 34]

oliver,
A pretty neat idea, but I would just tie before n afters. They work great and can be tied in tiny midge sizes. For a little extra add a holographic or opal tinsel mid section to the fly. Ive found that can make the difference on midging trout.

JU, can you describe the tying procedure for that fly?

 

[decker1313]

this is not exactly what you were looking for, perhaps it could be adapted.

http://www.ginkandgasoline.com/fly-fishing-photography/sunday-classic-kleweins-triple-trico/

the recipe isn't exactly clear.

 

[Trout Guy]

this is not exactly what you were looking for, perhaps it could be adapted.

http://www.ginkandgasoline.com/fly-fishing-photography/sunday-classic-kleweins-triple-trico/

the recipe isn't exactly clear.

Yeah, I agree, they're not too explicit with the tying procedures..

Cool fly though.