alternative material

[C&R]

Does anyone know of an alternative to vinyl ribbing that is called for in a lot of stonefly patterns?

 

[JOE.T]

swannundaze

 

[McAwful]

C&R

Bugskin

McA

 

[Fly Tier]

Does anyone know of an alternative to vinyl ribbing that is called for in a lot of stonefly patterns?

C&R,
you may want to use bug skin for the thorax, not for the vinyl ribbing, unless of course you have enough patience to twist the bugskin and use it that way. Unless McA is thinking of a different material.

Just curious why you would want to use an alternative material? you can pick this ribbing up in any shop. Comes in various colors and can also be used for bonefish flies.

-FT

 

[C&R]

C&R, Just curious why you would want to use an alternative material? you can pick this ribbing up in any shop. Comes in various colors and can also be used for bonefish flies.

Was actually at Tight Lines last night. Didn't think about tying stones until today. Won't be going back until next week.

Any other ideas? Something that might be lying around the house? Pete usually has an answer for these kinds of things.

 

[Mayfly]

Would flattening a piece of 20# monofilament by running it between your fingernails work?

 

[JOE.T]

You dont have Swannundaze just lying around the house? :judge:

 

[sstasiak]

You dont have Swannundaze just lying around the house? :judge:

What exactly is Swannundaze??

 

[Pete]

Swannundaze looks like flat mono...but softer.

"Mayfly" might have the right idea for improvising, but a needle nose pliers with smooth jaws may be more efficient than fingernails.

 

[Fly Tier]

Im thinking 20# test mono may not be so great. It will be hard to wrap that tight.

Why not just dub the body and segment it with your thread until you get the right material.

 

[Mayfly]

Actually, I was just guessing when I suggested 20# mono. You can use lighter depending on hook size. Also, Pete's right. Needle nose pliers with a flat inside jaw would do a better job then your finger nails.

 

[JOE.T]

Swannundaze --- It is a stretchable plastic that is round on one side and flat on the other.Comes in different colors.Its perfect for creating a segmented abdomen.Randall Kaufman uses it for his stones. "Kaufman Stone"

If you need material for smaller patterns than "V- rib" would work better.

 

[Andy]

Swannundaze

Frank Johnson stopped distributing Swannundaze several years ago so don't go crazy looking for it by name. You'll probably have more success looking for Phil Camera's Larva Lace or Orvis Nymph Rib.

 

[flytire]

V-Rib
D-Rib
Round Rib
Liquid Lace
Larva Lace

 

[flytire]

V Rib
D Rib
Round Rib
Liquid Lace
Larva Lace

Swannundaze is very similar to D-Rib. Its cross section is in the shape of a "D".

 

[cuda440]

Swannundaze ia actually a variant of the plastic lace you used as a kid in camp. It was used in crafts to stitch stuff together......well I never used it, the girls usually did those crafts.....

 

[RedTag2000]

Why not just dub the body and segment it with your thread until you get the right material.

Amen to that; floss maybe little better, or copper wire if You going for extra weight.

 

[C&R]

V-Rib
D-Rib
Round Rib
Liquid Lace
Larva Lace
Swannundaze
Nymph Skin
Hollow-Body Tubing
Jelly Rope

Can anyone with good knowledge of synthetics point out the characteristics (e.g. cross-sectional shape, elasticity, texture, intended visual effect) for each of the above materials.

I just want to know what the differences (however subtle) may be.

The only one I've ever used is larva lace. Its a soft flexible circular hollow tubing. Sort of like the insulation stripped off an 18 gauge solid wire, but softer.

 

[stumpy]

It may be too big for stonefly patterns, but I use a product called "easy tie" micro tubing for saltwater flies like crazy charlies, etc, It's available at most hobby shops, makes a slightly soft body, and comes in 20 or 25 colors- usually one package is a lifetime supply for several tiers, but at $3.00, you can throw some away.

 

[sandfly]

If any one is interested in swannundaze I just bought a huge lot of it. pm me for colors and price. several hundred packs of it.