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Advice On New Rod

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andreadionisio

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Hello all,

I have am in the market for a new rod. I'll be upgrading from my existing Deane "Lake" Rod (a tiny tiny manufactrurer that I got while I was living in South Africa). It's a 8'6", 5/6 weight, graphite rod.

Basically I am looking for something no more than $300. Probably same specs as my current one, {8'6" > 9'0", 5/6 weight}, medium/fast action.

I am currently entertaining the following ones:

St. Croix Legend Ultra
Redington RS2 , or Wayfarer
Orvis Clearwater Classic
Winston IBIS
Sage VPS

Any recommendations?

Thanks
Andrea
 
I have 8'6" Redington RS2 bought it on a recommendation form a fried who is a guide and know the owners of the company. I have to say can't beat it for the money ($160) The Wayfaver (5 piece) is also a bargain at $200. Also comes with a full replacement guarantee.
 
I'd also look into a loomis GL3 - they're a nice rod in your price range. Generally, they are considered medium or fast rods. That said, try to go to a fly shop and cast rods before you buy one - its always the best way.
 
Andrea,

There's no "better" rod than the one that you enjoy fishing with and any of the rods on your list should make you a happy fly fisher for years to come. I've fished a 9-foot 5-wt Loomis GL3 for the last 10 years on everything from tiny brook trout streams to the main stem of the Delaware. It'll throw everything from tiny dries to heavy streamers and has enough punch to handle wind and long casts. I did break a tip once (my fault, not the rod's) and Loomis sent out a brand new replacement for around $45 bucks in 2 days. I'm now at the stage where I want to add a lighter and shorter rod for some smaller waters, but the GL3 has well covered every base for me for years.

Go cast them all and then enjoy!
 
You might want to try a Scott SAS 9ft or 8ft , 5wt,its a med-fast rod. full warranty @ about $255.00.
 
I test cast some of the rods which you are considering. I was in the market for a 9' long, 5-weight, 4-piece.
Test cast as many as you can. You'll find subtle differences - and your personal favorite.
Following are my personal impressions of some of the ones I tested:

St. Croix Legend Ultra
This is a beautifully finished dark green blank with well apointed hardware. A very pretty rod.
The cork grip and the blank are high grade and slim & light in size. This rod is extremely light in the hand and feels almost delicate.
This rod is quite fast. A lot of reviews on the net have described it as medium-fast but I disagree.
Personally, I had problems with test cast accuracy using this rod. I could cast quite far though. Nice for $310.
If someone gave me one, or I won an Ultra - I wouldn't bother to shop for another rod.

Redington Wayfarer
This was a 5-piece rod. As I remember it was a dark grey blank - not real flashy.
The hardware appears to be a good grade, and the blank is a little on the thick side. The grip average size.
I would describe the action as on the slow side of medium-fast. Pleasant to cast.
The immediate thought that crossed my mind when I first held it was that it is a heavy rod.
I felt that waving this one around all day would prove to be tiresome.
Casting accuracy and distance were very good, though. For $165 this is a STEAL ( really ).

Orvis
I did not test a Clearwater. I did test the TLS. For $375, I almost bought this one. Still have second thoughts.
The TLS is a real value in my opinion. Lighter in the hand & about the same speed as the Ibis & XP.
The Orvis T3 was my total favorite ( but not by much over the XP), but too expensive at $625.
A lot of people bash Orvis, but I like their products a lot. I own a ( now discontinued silver label ) 4-wt.

Winston Ibis
This is a good looking rod and well finished, too. A dark cranberry blank with well appointed hardware.
The cork grip is high grade and is on the large size compared with other rods in this class.
This provides a very comfortable grip for someone with long fingers, or prefers something more substantial to hold on to.
In the hand, it is not a light as the St. Croix or XP or Orvis lines but is lighter than the Redington. It is not really a heavy rod.
The blank is larger in diameter at the butt than others & appears to be a large diameter, thin walled blank.
The rod is quite fast ( but not as fast as the St. Croix or XP or T3 - just a tick behind ) and exhibits that smooth Winston feel.
The feel is one of the key points on this rod.The Ibis is very comfortable & able to cast long and accurately.
This is a real nice rod for $300. I liked it a lot. Winston would probably sell more of these if they charged more.
I kept asking myself, what is wrong with it if it only cost $300 ???

Sage
I wanted to cast the VPS, but did not do so. I also wanted to try the faster XP. I did, and bought the XP.

GLoomis.
I wanted to test cast the GLX but did not. It, like the T3 is very expensive ( but I hear its real nice ). Try a GL3.
 
Thanks!

To everyone thanks for the opinions, especially The_Sib.
I have a friend that owns a T3, and was ablt to cast it this weekend. I must say wow! I really felt comportable with it but at that price, I have to wait a few years :)
Next weekend I will try to cast a few other,
Thanks again,
Andrea
 
For under 300.00 you can purchase a loomis gl3 with a reel and line from cabelas.

I do reccomend however that you do test other rods!
 
Andreadionisio,

I don't recommend the T3 for you. Try a few slower action rods, you won't be dissapointed. You also didn't mention what type of water you'll be fishing, that would be one of the factors for me while purchasing a rod.

Dennis
 
No, I won't be getting a T3, but it was nice to try.
The waters I will be fishing can be quite varied. Here in NY, mostly medium sized rivers like the beaverkill and willowemoc. Also occasionally the Delaware (west branch). I also travel a lot, so I need that versatility. I go to South Africa where it's mostly still-water, and also Germany / Italy, and the list goes on.
I'm thinking of a 9 foot, 5 weight, but haven't yet decided on a manufacturer. I will be taking a look at the St. Croix Ultra Legend (4-piece) this weekend.
Thanks
Andrea
 
Hey Andrea,

If your interested in a t-3 (even just a little), They have them on ebay for a better price. I have a 3wt and 9wt and I really enjoy casting them. If they had a 0wt, I would have a t3 ... But That's gonna be my first sage xp rod :).

Good Luck
 
I own two St. Croix ultra legneds, a 6wt 4 pc I bought, a 2wt 2pc I made, and I'm now building a 3wt 3pc. I'd bet that if you weren't looking at the blank color and logo, you'd have a hard time telling one of these rods apart from a sage, orvis, or loomis. The 6wt is fantastic with sink tip lines, and casting streamers. The 2 wt can cast out to 40' easily, 50' with an easy single haul. The 2wt. has handled fish up to 16" with ease. Check the spine of the rod sections too if you have accuracy problems - this would throw accuracy off, as the rod will not track straight when loaded.
 
Well Scott,
What a coincidence as I did indeed buy the St. Croix Legend Ultra last week. It's a 5wt 4-piece 9'. I was able to get a great deal on ebay. A fishing store was trying to clear out inventory and I was able to get it brand new for $245.
Seems pretty decent to me.
Thanks to all for all the help.
Andrea
 
I think you'll love it. I sold a Sage 3wt so I could buy the parts to build another St. Croix 3wt using the Ultra Legend travel rod blank.
 
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