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8/29/08 Delaware Water Gap MAX!!!

sheisty

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Let’s see where do we begin? How about the beginning! Alarm went off 4am, got out the bed 4:30am, on the road 5:30am, arrived at DC 6:30am. I was supposed to make this trip (my first WTS) on Monday for my birthday but the threat of rain killed the idea.

I had a rough start. I hiked Mt. Tammany (wrong trail great view) in hip waders! Such a brutal 20 or 30 minute hike from the parking lot. I heard DC on the way up so I hiked half way back down, cut over off the trail and located DC. I knew it was the wrong trail as I thought about how some of you old guys wouldn't fish that place if you had to climb up that mountain every time. Fishing was good and I also ran into a guy with a hot chick taking stream pics. There were plenty of fish in pocket water and hiding under rocks. I walked upstream a good ways, and walked back down nearly sliding down a cascading waterfall (I got to upgrade to studded waders). At DC I caught one 8inch wild bookie on a TM, a LDR on a 3 inch something and 1 or 2 trout took a swipe at my TM and didn't connect. This is where I saw how skittish they can be, swimming around like there on crack or something.

Next up, VCB. When I got there a lady, her daughter and dog was leaving. As I headed upstream there wasn't much pocket water worth fishing, I did manage a couple of 4-5 inch trout to take swipes at my TM. I guess they were hitting the tail all day and not the hook. Only thing I caught here was a 5 inch sunfish, but I saw far more trout here than I did at DC. The sun was coming high so fish started retreating I guess. On the way out I fell on the trail (rather funny) as I was getting ready to speak to the two fishermen that were heading in the direction I was leaving. Some other guy was there sitting in a lawn chair reading.

Next up BFB. What a waste.......I guess most fish were holding up in the ROY WMA. The sun was high and you can clearly see there were no trout around! I saw one or two little guys. They didn't want a spinner, or TM. Here is where I waste even more time! I started out within the Walpack WMA didn't see anything and where I thought fish were holding I couldn't access there was a sandy shore that wasn't firm and I didn't feel like trying to find a way across to the other side and coming back around. I would have had to hack a lot of brush. So like a dufus I drove across what I think was the Roy bridge (1 hour slow drive on gravel road) I saw a guy in a minivan with a kayak and a guy in a black GMC (I think). I ended up stopping at buttermilk falls and finally hit paved road at the entrance to Tillman’s Ravine. So you if you saw a skinny black dude with a dusty bmw it was me....what a waste of time that was, I was hoping to come across a pond or something but couldn't locate anything on my hagstrom because I didn't know what road I was on LOL.

Next up more driving, I had to bypass FFO waters...I saw some great spots so that really had me in a fizzle. Here is some more time wasted for about 45 mins I headed off 206 to 521, was driving around in a big circle scouting for little bass ponds, I saw some lakes that I want to look up to see if they are public or private.

Next up more BFB, above 206 the majority of BFB was a complete waste!! 2inch trickles. Where I did find trout some there were about 6 blue containers sitting on the ground, the fish didn't want the TM's nor spinners. The trout started rising. I tried to use some crystal river flies, but I couldn't get the casting right (5 feet maximum, with split shot made the fly sink). I'm going to practice a technique using a tiny float for weight. (Spin guys version of fly fishing).

Next up, more VCB it was nearly dark and I was mad fish didn't want what I was throwing. I hadn't fished this section of VCB because when I tried to earlier there were 3 cars in the lot. I saw the boot prints when I finally made it to the water so I wasn't expecting anything. I spook many fish, but had a few LDRS. So that made me happy, a few still hit and did not get hook.

In sum it up, today was a good day, I learned a lot, saw a lot, and now I’m tired as hell running late for work. I think I covered everything.

Here is the slide show.
 
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Glad you had a good day, you seemed to a do a ton of fishing.

What is a TM?

Trout Magnet, they come in different colors.

tm_header.jpeg
 
Sounds like you had a very busy morning. Just wondering, and please excuse my ignorance... What is "DC"?

About this 'hot chick'... Was she nude/topless??? Anything like that?
Did you :foto:?
 
Nice story, but whats up with the Mini Shad Darts. There not Flies and this is a Flyfishing site.
Next time tell us about how you did Flyfishing on VCB and save the Trout Magnet talk for other sites dealing with spinfishing.
I've seen people using these things on flyrods, and to me that is as bad as putting on a bare hook and impaling a Mealworm on it:mad:.

Remember where your posting, Flyfishing only, like alot of these Streams should be designated.

Just my opinion.
 
Nice story, but whats up with the Mini Shad Darts. There not Flies and this is a Flyfishing site.
Next time tell us about how you did Flyfishing on VCB and save the Trout Magnet talk for other sites dealing with spinfishing.
I've seen people using these things on flyrods, and to me that is as bad as putting on a bare hook and impaling a Mealworm on it:mad:.

Remember where your posting, Flyfishing only, like alot of these Streams should be designated.

Just my opinion.
With all due respect, I disagree...

We should be welcoming young anglers, who use any legal means.

The fact that he's reading and posting here, indicates an interest. We should be encouraging him to take the next step, without demeaning his current methods.
Next up more driving, I had to bypass FFO waters...I saw some great spots so that really had me in a fizzle.
Sounds promising.....almost ready?
 
With all due respect, I disagree...

We should be welcoming young anglers, who use any legal means.

The fact that he's reading and posting here, indicates an interest. We should be encouraging him to take the next step, without demeaning his current methods.Sounds promising.....almost ready?
I hear ya, and hopefully this young man does convert. Just gave my opinion thats all.
Hell I started out spinfishing when I was younger but found it boring.
One thing I do know Fly fishing will never bore me and I'll be learning things about it, till the day I die
 
It's ok Pete. I expected that treatment and I respect his opinion. I experienced it before when posting a report here. Normally I chime in on stream conditions or just pm a few friends here about the information I know or want to know.

Today I just wanted to post a report about my experience and give some info on some stream/fish conditions. That could possibly benefit any area fly fisherman.

I read here on a daily basis and fish about 4 days a week for at least 3 hours a day. The more I read the more interested I become in fishing. It's a lose-lose situation. If I only read then I’m a "Lurker" or if I post semi related topics I'm a Troll.

If it makes me fit in amongst the crowds a little better, using my spin outfit I experimented with two flies on the upper section of BFB. The flies were a Hank Roberts Black Marabou Sz-10, and a Crystal River Muddler Minnow Sz-8.

I'm trying to stagger my interest in fishing. I want to spin fish until I’m bored, and then tackle fly fishing. I started fishing 13 months or so ago.

Oh and Pete even though i'm not bored yet with spinfishing, i've been thinking about getting a simple fly setup to start learning before I go full throttle with usind it.
 
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If you use real flies on the two wild trout streams, you'll do MUCH better. Van Campens always runs gin clear, so anything that makes a "plunk" going in will definately scare the fish away. Ditch the waders too, you'll be amazed at how many more fish you catch if you don't step foot in the stream. Both of these streams hold large fish, but you have to be willing to work for them.
 
Thanks mike, yea I surely have to lose the waders. I didn't know what to expect so i just had them just in case. The water there is low at VCB & DC and where the water would require waders, fish were holding.

I had many hits, but not a lot of hookups on the wild trout streams. Thanks for the advice.
 
I'm trying to stagger my interest in fishing. I want to spin fish until I’m bored, and then tackle fly fishing. I started fishing 13 months or so ago.
Sheisty,
Everybody has to start somewhere and if it'only been 13 months,have fun, the only place to go is up.
I started fishing for Trout at about 9 years old, got my first Flyrod at about 14(still have it) but never really got heavily into the sport (FF) until about age 26-27. Been doing it about 20 yrs. now and never looked back.
You don't need to go full-bore, just have fun with it. You'll be addicted to FF in due time if you take it up and stick with it.
 
Sorry I forgot. DC=Dunnfield Creek. As for the hot chick.... the guy was going to take some nude pictures but decided against it because I was in the area. Could have just been my imagination.
 
what is with all the code?? - TC, WMA, DC, VCB, Please speak English and easy on the acronyms.
 
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what is with all the code?? - TC, WMA, DC, VCB, Please speak English and easy on the acronyms.
WMA = Wildlife Management Area (like Pennsylvania's State Gamelands)
DC = Dunnfield Creek
VCB = Van Campen's Brook

It's location shorthand and there are many others that I wouldn't have time to go into here.
 
Hey, speaking of converting someone to flyfishing, anyone know what happened to the guy that Corn Dog was collecting equipment for?
 
Hey, speaking of converting someone to flyfishing, anyone know what happened to the guy that Corn Dog was collecting equipment for?


NEEF Detective Burt has been looking for Ober for a month or so. To no avail. No where to be found.

Hllywd
 
To give him the benefit of the doubt......

Maybe he's become so addicted to flyfishing, that he's not had any time to mess around with computers and post.
 
To give him the benefit of the doubt......

Maybe he's become so addicted to flyfishing, that he's not had any time to mess around with computers and post.


Last I remember seeing Ober I gave him some tips for saddle river for trout fishing. I was catching wild trout well downstream of wild duck pond.
 
The Official report is in on Ober51 the infamous. The report states as follows: "I have no clue where he is." End of report. There are speculations from unknown sources that he may have caught the flyfishing bug hard, sold his house and became a true trout bum. Others speculate that he is on the Mississippi now and is a river boat gambler. The latter report was never confirmed. We can only hope his lines are tight. Reporting from the NEFF detective unit, I'm Burtdog and that's the way it was.
 
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