Published in this week's River Reporter:

http://www.riverreporter.com/my-view/4302/2015/06/03/upper-delaware-river-taking-heat-again

http://www.riverreporter.com/my-view/4302/2015/06/03/upper-delaware-river-taking-heat-again



By Theresa Allen, Jim Costolnick and Sam Rowe


For the second time this season, warming temperatures are threatening the Upper Delaware River watershed.


Very low river flows and high daytime and nighttime air temperatures will likely pose serious threats to the
health of the world-class cold-water ecosystem that defines this region.


Local businesses that rely on the short recreational season to carry them through the year are experiencing another slowdown in commerce and are searching for solutions. Their primary focus is the management of the New York City Delaware Basin reservoirs and the availability of reserve water that could be released to the river to protect habitat and recreational opportunities.


When the water level gets too low, people can’t use the river and companies in towns like
Hancock, NY, lose business. And that business is often lost forever, which includes state tax dollar revenues.


It is astounding that the authorities who control the reservoirs are not able to give us just a little bit of water to protect our river and our community.


The City of New York along with the states of New York, New Jersey, Delaware and Pennsylvania have
the authority to approve additional water releases from the Delaware reservoirs, and there are reserve supplies that were created for situations where downstream areas need relief from stressful conditions like the one facing the Upper Delaware River this week.


Guides have already cancelled guided trips this week because their clients are looking at their iPhones
and seeing hot temperatures and low water releases in the river in recent weeks. Their livelihood depends on this river, and it is hard to understand how the state and the City of New York can turn a blind eye to the situation in our area time and time again.


Jeff Bump, co-owner of Paddle and Pedal Outdoors, a canoe, kayak, and bike rental business based in Hancock, commented on the lack of recreational traffic as a result of low water levels on the Upper Delaware system. “Plain and simple, people want to float along, not drag their canoes and kayaks over exposed gravel and low water areas of the river. It does not make for an enjoyable, relaxing day on the water.”


The Upper Delaware River region struggles to reinvent itself economically and increasingly looks to the river as a resource upon which to build its future. But unreliable water releases from the reservoirs threaten to stymie that effort, leading to confusion among community leaders.




The river is a very important economic asset for the Town of Hancock and its neighbors, and we need it to be as healthy as possible.


When boats bottom out because of low flows and fishermen stay home because of high water temperatures, the towns suffer.

All we’re asking for is a little bit of water during these stressful situations. It absolutely astounds me that we can’t figure out a way to get this done.”


[Theresa Allen is the owner/operator of Hancock Liquor Store; Jim Costolnick owns the Border Water Outfitters and Fly Shop, and Sam Rowe is the Hancock town supervisor.]

TR said:

The City of New York along with the states of New York, New Jersey, Delaware and Pennsylvania have
the authority to approve additional water releases from the Delaware reservoirs, and there are reserve supplies that were created for situations where downstream areas need relief from stressful conditions like the one facing the Upper Delaware River this week.

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What water is this "reserve supplies that were created"?
How much is it and where is it delineated as to what "stressful conditions" warrant its use?
Thanks.

Future Fanatic said:

What water is this "reserve supplies that were created"?
How much is it and where is it delineated as to what "stressful conditions" warrant its use?
Thanks.

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Good question John.

Ask the writers of the Op-Ed piece in the newspaper. Link provided. Or, maybe Serio knows the answer since his office is a double haul from Coz's fly shop.

Will be a short season up here after this week....for trout that is.

Started late... ended early.

Next week - highs in the 80's lows in the mid 60's with 275 cfs release throughout June.

Time to switch gears to Senkos and Kei-Techs from Rusty Spinners and E/C Caddis.

Tight lines.

What high temps for this weekend ? it will be in low 70s if that, with chance of rain Monday/Tuesday. I plan on fishing the WB all weekend
but then again I'm a wader not a pontoon/driftboat guy.

TR said:

Will be a short season up here after this week....for trout that is.

Started late... ended early.

Next week - highs in the 80's lows in the mid 60's with 275 cfs release throughout June.

Time to switch gears to Senkos and Kei-Techs from Rusty Spinners and E/C Caddis.

Tight lines.

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You don't think the release will be over 275cfs at any point in JUNE?

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You don't think the release will be over 275cfs at any point in JUNE?

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Depends on reservoir storage and potential (if any) rainfall.

Look at the chart.

275cfs from Cannonsville through June 15.

Then they bop it up to 1500cfs for the last two weeks in June?

Then cut it back to 400cfs after July 1 if it stays in L1-B in Table 4A.

Questions?

Ask the person who brokered the plan along with your first question in this thread regarding the Op-Ed piece in the River Reporter written by Costolnick, Rowe and Allen.

Tight lines.

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Depends on reservoir storage and potential (if any) rainfall.

Look at the chart.

275cfs from Cannonsville through June 15.

Then they bop it up to 1500cfs for the last two weeks in June?

Then cut it back to 400cfs after July 1 if it stays in L1-B in Table 4A.

Questions?

Ask the person who brokered the plan along with your first question in this thread regarding the Op-Ed piece in the River Reporter written by Costolnick, Rowe and Allen.

Tight lines.

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And, from looking at the chart, IF Cannonsville was to fall below 90% capacity, you then fall into Table 4A L1-C, and the Cannonsville release will be 275cfs throughout the summer - June, July, August and September.

Currently Cannonsville is at 93.9%.

Tight lines.

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P.S.

And, from looking at the chart, IF Cannonsville was to fall below 90% capacity, you then fall into Table 4A L1-C, and the Cannonsville release will be 275cfs throughout the summer - June, July, August and September.

Currently Cannonsville is at 93.9%.

Tight lines.

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But through all of your fancy chart figgerin' you're not even contemplating Montague might need a boost this June (or summer)?

Its never a good thing praying on the montague requirement to bail you out. Too much of a crap shoot with too many sources to draw water from. This year unfortunately has shown the worst of the FFMP and really the OST and conservative numbers used by the city to justify withholding water when overall res capacity is less than 2% off the normal average for this time of year.

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But through all of your fancy chart figgerin' you're not even contemplating Montague might need a boost this June (or summer)?

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Those tables are from the current FFMP John.

My suggestion is to ask those that brokered the plan if you have questions.

Tight lines.

Montague...

This op ed proves my point exactly. It's not really about the heatlth of the fishery,it's about the health of people's pocket books. It would seem that in a abnormally warm dry spring the plan Jim has brokered has kept the fish healthy and well. Remember the whole northeast region has been suffering with low water conditions. The temps on the D even down to callicoon never held at lethal levels long enough to kill trout. Thermally stress them yes kill no. Now there is plenty of cold water to fish up there even way down the maim. It would seem that guys are more worried about having enough water to drift then about the health of the trout. Get your lazy guide asses out of the boats and do a little walking you may be suprised. It's actually nice to see the fish getting a rest from the constant barrage of over priced guides and their incompetent clients.

the river has become a drift boat river and a majority of people who fish up there with a guide want to float if they are paying the money. End of the day the communities rely on the river as a financial resource and price driver for the entire catskill region so of course economics matter here. The in town dollars spent by fisherman in non-fishing related business are going to dwindle with the drop in fisherman coming to the area this season too so its easy to see how its all connected and how the low flows are really hurting the economy there. When people's livelihoods are threatened people act out and its tough to blame them. Very few people want to pay 400 or more for a guy standing over your shoulder watching u cast waist deep in the stream. U pay for the experience of floating the river and seeing more of the river /covering ground. Older clients, out of shape clients, ect also are not going to be able to wade like an average person could so that certainly takes a chunk out of the business too. The fact that so many towns and people financially rely on the river is the #1 reason that NYC would even listen to the upstate complaints regarding flows in the first place so IMO its probably best to bring the financial arguments to the public eye over the environmental ones. NYC doesnt care about trout ,but if enough communities suffer as a result of the river's mismanagement via a negative financial impact maybe NYC starts to feel some pressure.

Jc,I agree with what you said. I just find it humorous that these people are crying about the health of the fishery when it's all about money not the fish. It would be refreshing to see them just tell the truth and say "hey we need to male money give us water" not " the fish are suffering give us water". The fish will always survive.

Mr. Mike.. I'll say it once gain... I'm not a guide and neither are guys like JoeT and there are many others. I don't own a boat and neither does JoeT. But we are both very concerned about the fishery. Many others are as well.

FYI... I do know many guides on the Delaware and have discussed the fishery with them. They are concerned about the long term health of the fishery. Perhaps you should chat with some about the fishery. My guess is that you'd learn a great deal and come to understand a bit more about why those who have fished the river for 20 to 30 years feel the way we do.

Hi Tony,

I wish you would at least take some time to read the FFMP/OST document. Admittedly it is not the easiest read, but you are spouting off about charts and flows and releases and are way off base.

The chart you think we are operating under is not even being used at this time.

The "individual storage zones" is only used when the whole system is in L1. This happens when the combined storage of the 3 reservoirs is above the L1 line. the system is currently in Level L2.

I do believe that NYC has been overly conservative with their interpretation of the FFMP. Working on that.

Jim

Big_Spinner said:

Hi Tony,

I wish you would at least take some time to read the FFMP/OST document. Admittedly it is not the easiest read, but you are spouting off about charts and flows and releases and are way off base.

The chart you think we are operating under is not even being used at this time.

The "individual storage zones" is only used when the whole system is in L1. This happens when the combined storage of the 3 reservoirs is above the L1 line. the system is currently in Level L2.

I do believe that NYC has been overly conservative with their interpretation of the FFMP. Working on that.

Jim

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Hi Jim.

The data came from the .pdf file you emailed me this past May.

Link to the .pdf fie you emailed me is:

http://www.delawareriverfishing.com/FFMP_2014_Agreement.pdf

If the figures are incorrect why not enlighten the readers with the correct data.

Many thanks Jim.
TR

Hi Tony,

I thought I had explained your error.

The total reservoir storage, often referred to as PCN (PepactonCannonsvilleNeversink) total, is compared to Figure 1 in the document I sent you.

For June , a 95% PCN puts us in the L2a level. This means that Table 2, is not used at all. Table 2 is only used when we are in L1. L1 in June only occurs, according to Figure 1, if the PCN total is greater than 100%.

Hope this helps,

Jim

Big_Spinner said:

Hi Tony,

I thought I had explained your error.

The total reservoir storage, often referred to as PCN (PepactonCannonsvilleNeversink) total, is compared to Figure 1 in the document I sent you.

For June , a 95% PCN puts us in the L2a level. This means that Table 2, is not used at all. Table 2 is only used when we are in L1. L1 in June only occurs, according to Figure 1, if the PCN total is greater than 100%.

Hope this helps,

Jim

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Good morning Jim.

So we are currently in the L-2a level.

Please advise if these are the correct Cannonsville release cfs figures for June 1 through August 31 in the event that NO directed or supplemental releases are called in the event that Montague stays above 1750cfs throughout the summer.

L2-a
Cannonsville Release: June 1 - August 31:

No FAW - 225cfs
10mgd FAW - 245cfs
20mgd FAW - 275cfs
30mgd FAW - 325cfs


Thank you.
TR

NJFred said:

Mr. Mike.. I'll say it once gain... I'm not a guide and neither are guys like JoeT and there are many others. I don't own a boat and neither does JoeT. But we are both very concerned about the fishery. Many others are as well.

FYI... I do know many guides on the Delaware and have discussed the fishery with them. They are concerned about the long term health of the fishery. Perhaps you should chat with some about the fishery. My guess is that you'd learn a great deal and come to understand a bit more about why those who have fished the river for 20 to 30 years feel the way we do.

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Fred

The good news is that it's a small minority that will always tell you the sky is Purple if you say it's Blue.

The funny thing is that the guys who complain about us,the guides and needing more water don't even fish the Delaware !

Fish on...

Fred,once again my comments were not directed towards you. I understand the need to protect the fishery,but in a abnormally dry hot spring the fish made it. My father first tool me up to the D when I was 15 and I have been fishing there on and off since. I am now 41 so you can do the math. I'm merley pointing out we should give Jim's plan a year or more to actually see how it will work . We may vet more normal weather next year and all the guys complaining now may be singing a different tune. The spots I like to fish are not impacted greatly by the cold water because they are too far away from the dam. The fish are always there and healthy. The fish will survive,that's my point.

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<snipped in parts> ...in a abnormally dry hot spring the fish made it. ... The spots I like to fish are not impacted greatly by the cold water because they are too far away from the dam. The fish are always there and healthy. The fish will survive,that's my point.

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Hello Trico.

The rainbows were planted in the Main Stem in the 1880's about seventy years before the reservoirs were built and they survived when the water temps got warm.

There were no reservoirs for the trout to flee to. So they hunkered down near springs, seeps and tribs.

That's before any NYC tailwater releases and the Main Stem ran low and hot in those summers. Plenty of photos of the Main Stem low and bony in the early 1900's.

If your point is that the fish will survive, well, sure they survived but if we're looking to improve the fishery with the recreational / business oppotunities which was the topic of this thread - then that's a matter for debate.

Tight lines.
TR

trico mike said:

Fred,once again my comments were not directed towards you. I understand the need to protect the fishery,but in a abnormally dry hot spring the fish made it. My father first tool me up to the D when I was 15 and I have been fishing there on and off since. I am now 41 so you can do the math. I'm merley pointing out we should give Jim's plan a year or more to actually see how it will work . We may vet more normal weather next year and all the guys complaining now may be singing a different tune. The spots I like to fish are not impacted greatly by the cold water because they are too far away from the dam. The fish are always there and healthy. The fish will survive,that's my point.

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This has nothing to do with the fish surviving, in part the fishery is in a decline, and there is a negative impact to the local economy .The WB has other issues than just flows, silt and lots of it, which in turn is decreasing the Aquatic insect populations despite what some may think.

Not having early spring spills is also taking a toll since the Alewifes that use to spill into the river are a rare site.

That was a big protein boost in the spring.So now you have less food.Which will end up affecting the fish populations (some of us thinks it has already) and the health of the fish.

There will be studies done to prove all of this.(Finally)

Another issue is that with such a low release the WB can't really be fished below Hale Eddy when you have ambient temps in the mid 80's for a few days.

Last Saturday was a perfect example, temps where taken at Hale Eddy at 64 ( I was there) even though the gauge showed 62, A friend of mine took the temp in the game-lands and it was 68.You couldn't fish below Balls eddy that day.One more day like that and the cutoff would've been hales eddy.

That's not good, the fish migrate upstream for thermal relief, but now your increasing fish populations in the upper WB , with less food and more fisherman.

Not a good combo.

Please please don't talk about a another year of an experimental release.We've had these since the 70's!!!!

The FUDR has now taken over the Brokering of a new deal, and they have a new retired Engineer on board that is working on a new flow plan that will include another reservoir.

Delaware River Basin Commission|Flow and Drought Management

With all due respect to anyone , if your going to debate an issue, especially one so complex as this one ,learn the facts first.

Joe,

I think the bug life issue is probably the first and foremost issue on the wb right now. The silt has caused some hatches to really suffer, most notably the olives which are almost a non-existent hatch on the river now where at one time it was arguably the strongest. You also have some bugs like green drakes showing up in places you never saw them (like stilesville) because those nymphs prefer a muddy bottom and benefit from the silted conditions. Overall, the impact has been mostly negative for the bugs and the only real consistent hatch on the wb now is the sulphers. The river isn't dead bug wise but the hatches have been sparser and inconsistent. The oddly warm day time temps have added to the unpredictability this season but the silt has certainly been an increasingly growing issue for 5+ years now. Olives have not been right since the major floods.Same goes for tricos. March browns are totally undependable on the river now and you are lucky to hit one good hatch a season for them on the wb. Hendricksons didn't even show up this year like normal so that's anyone's guess what happened there. I have not hit one super heavy hatch all season and have been fishing spinners almost exclusively since I've been mostly finding fish picking at a smattering of many different bugs that were sparsely coming off.

As for fish pops- its very hard to say the wb is anything but healthy. The fish have become skittish w pressure and dont rise as freely as they used to and at times that gives off the impression there are less fish, but then it will light up and you see whats really there. This is particularly true for the wb below balls eddy. I also think there are more big fish in the river now than ever and a 20'' fish now is downright common when in the 1990s I remember a 20'' fish being the fish of the season. Not sure what the #s per mile but bottom line is there are plenty of fish around- its just super aggravating that angler pressure has caused them to become far less consistent and ignore bugs during the day and up until evening. The streamer game has also really changed and its tough to put up a big day with them now where I remember moving 25 fish a day when flows were on the rise 10+ years back. The fish are domesticated pets now up there and they have seen it all.

Lastly- it is debatable that the yo yo flows that we used to see prior to the FFMP were actually better for the mainstem then the current plan. Consistent releases but on average lower overall flows for most of the year benefit the tailwater fish, but also leave the mainstem low for a majority of the season unless the freestones are running real well for the whole season on a wet year. This means the main is cooked during the summer most seasons. During the yo yo flows era, the main would really fish well in the summer when the west branch would run at 750-1500 cfs during the summer months and the fishing held up great or atleast provided fishable windows for most of the summer. Then- the fall, winter and spring months the main was fine with both temps and water for the fish to holdover the colder months in. The west would take on the brunt of the harm from yo yo flows bc u had winter conditions that were horrible with 45-100cfs flows and anchor ice. Point being that whats best for the tailwaters is not always best for the mainstem. Thats why u often see differing in interests and approaches towards advocating for the river because different guides prefer different sections of river based on where they do most guiding, fish ,ect. In total- I think the tailwaters are healthy- but perhaps aren't fishing as well as they used to because of angler pressure and a change in fish behavior. The most important improvement that would benefit all rivers is a thermal release system (and best case scenario a temp limit down to say lordville) which would ensure that the temps are non-lethal for an extended portion of the delaware system. Every time you worry about the mainstem fish though just think about how the lower east, which gets fried every summer, still manages to have a strong pop of wild fish and produces some of the biggest fish caught up there each season. The fish do find a way- its just that we can do better up there with very slight and non consequential changes for all parties involved.

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Joe,

I think the bug life issue is probably the first and foremost issue on the wb right now....

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<Balance snipped. It's too warm. Need an ice cold Corona. Maybe two.>

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There's always a bit of melancholy as I stash away my five weight Ross rods along with the Gink, shot and 5x tippet for the summer and the myriad assortment of hand ties flies until September rolls around.

It was a short spring season for the trouskies on the Main Stem in 2015 wasn't it?

Ice went out on the Big Eddy on April 4th and here it is - June 5th - eight weeks later - and the water at Lordville is 70+ for the third stretch in a month.

Eight weeks minus the first two weeks of April when the water was in the 30's, flowing high with ice.

Then minus out another two week stretches - the first around May 10th and again around May 22 - when it felt like July in the Catskills and the water temps hit 74 in Lordville for a few days and you have about four to five weeks of trout fishing on the Main Stem eventhough the reservoirs were over 96% for most of May.

Not too shabby.

It's time for river smallies! The gamest fish that swims as Dr. Henshall said.

And anybody that scoffs and looks down their noses at catching feisty bronzebacks on top in skinny water at dusk with an eight weight with Gurglers just doesn't know where it's at.

Crack up an ice cold Yeungling - or Stella, if you can afford it - and have a ball with those smallmouth bass. It's better thank scratching your nuts, adjusting your baseball cap, and squinting for those subtle Delaware riseforms as you wait...and wait...and wait... in the bright sun for a hatch that will last a nanosecond starting at 8:46pm.

Tight lines!

Hi Trico,

This is actually the third year of FFMP in its present format.

The last two years were normal and above normal precipitation.

Both years the MINIMUM release on the release was 400 in late May and 500 for most of the summer.

What we are seeing now are the minimum releases in a dry spring and summer.

I do expect NYC DEP to reevaluate where we are now and bump up the release, I am thinking to at least 400 on the WB and the scheduled 140 and 100 for EB and NEV.

My problrem with NYC is that they have not done this re-evaluation and are a bit in a "black box" about how they do this.

The public was told that the system would be in chart F or G 70+% of the time.

When I run the new OASIS model with NYC present operation the result is that we are only in F or G 56% of the time in the summer and only about 50% for the entire year.

I still vividly remember the "old days" when I managed West Branch Angler and we had to sweat out the first two weeks of June. The release in May and June was 45 cfs and we got a bump up on June 15th to 325 cfs. We stayed at 325 cfs until August 15 and then dropped back to 45 cfs on August 16th!! IT was scary bad. If it was a dry summer we would get Montague releases, but that did not help the EB.

Jim

Hi Tony Ritter,

You are pretty close on your evaluation.

There is no 30 mgd FAW, but there is a 35 mgd FAW.

No FAW - 225cfs
10mgd FAW - 245cfs
20mgd FAW - 275cfs
35mgd FAW - 325cfs
50mgd FAW - 400cfs
75mgd FAW - 500cfs
100 mgd FAW - 500cfs

I have been after NYCDEP to run their evaluation summaries on at least a weekly basis because I think that when the conditions change for the better, NYC lags back and does not change the release accordingly. Just my own theory.

Jim

trico mike said:

Fred,once again my comments were not directed towards you. I understand the need to protect the fishery,but in a abnormally dry hot spring the fish made it. My father first tool me up to the D when I was 15 and I have been fishing there on and off since. I am now 41 so you can do the math. I'm merley pointing out we should give Jim's plan a year or more to actually see how it will work . We may vet more normal weather next year and all the guys complaining now may be singing a different tune. The spots I like to fish are not impacted greatly by the cold water because they are too far away from the dam. The fish are always there and healthy. The fish will survive,that's my point.

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Mike did you ever read the telemetry study? I would guess "they aren't always there". If always there, I doubt in 73+ water they are "healthy". I never mention "Jim's plan" ... not even sure what that is. Lastly there is a difference between "survival" and prospering. You are lucky some of us don't have your opinion that things will always be fine if we did you'd be pitching to stockies now.

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Hi Trico,

This is actually the third year of FFMP in its present format.

The last two years were normal and above normal precipitation.

Jim

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Good morning.

James, my man, that is incorrect.

Take a look at the Cornell University / NOAA data for 2014 and you'll see that stations close to the Catskills and Delaware River were lower than normal for precipitation - not higher for 2014.

They don't have a station for Binghamton but they do have one for Scranton (miles in distance to the Catskills) and Allentown (drains into the Delaware at Easton).

You see, when you make a blanket statement like that without specifying where you are talking aboutand it goes unchecked - your acolytes, and other innocents, actually believe what you say.

As I recall there was absolutely no water in any of the Catskill / Pocono freestones last summer and fall nor was the Montague 1750cfs being met due to very little rainfall, they cut back Wallenpaupack releases thus NYC was forced to dump a lot of water from Cannonsville from late July through the fall making for superb trout fishing from Long Eddy to Damascus.

The bass fishing suffered a bit downstream due to above average flows and cooler water temps but the trout more than made up for it upriver where Long Edddy to Callicoon stayed in the 60 to 68 degrees range.

Of course the further north of Long Eddy you went the cloudier the water became until it was mud near Deposit.

The other bonus was that it never got really warm last July and August. The nights in the Catskills were in the 50's.

Stats:
http://www.nrcc.cornell.edu/news/2014/20150105precip_2014.png

Tight lines.

Hi Tony,

You are so funny. You spend so much time trying to prove me wrong, that if you channeled that energy into something useful, it might actually be helpful. Alas, not.

The graph you attached has Binghamton listed on the side as just about normal precipitation. 101% of normal. 39.63 inches compared to 39.30 inches for normal.

I have attached a Binghamton graph that shows precip just slightly, but consistently, above normal for the year 2014, as your data indicates.

Also note that temperatures were also in about the normal range for the summer and year.

Hope this helps to clear things up for you.

Jim

With a release of 244CFS, looks like we jumped to table 4b. With more rain coming let's hope that NYC sees fit to jump up the tables again.

Jim, at least in my reading of the FFMP, it technically doesn't matter what their model says in terms of FAW. It's appears to be very clear in the text that any release above table 4a is "voluntary". There is no obligation when say FAW is at a set number to go to table y and to release X. Another area for improvement. Of course they must take into account the entire system as well, not just select reservoirs.

See below:

"Under this agreement the City will voluntarily make enhanced stream releases using the Forecast-based Available Water (FAW) as determined by an OST assessment and in accordance with Figures 1 and 2 and the appropriate FAW or the base releases shown in Table 4a. When the assessment indicates that no additional water is available, the City shall make releases in accordance with the currently sustainable base releases shown in Table 4a. The City is under no obligation to make enhanced releases beyond the base releases, when the risk to water supply, as determined by the City using its OST assessment, is unacceptable. Tables 4b through 4g present the releases tables under Normal conditions for pre-determined amounts of FAW."