Future Fanatic
Nirvana
Or maybe the private landowner should sue the "public" if any of those inferior stocked fish came onto their property. Or maybe just charge the state for having their land supporting these "public" fish...
Give us a try!
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Stay off the private rivers!
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Or maybe the private landowner should sue the "public" if any of those inferior stocked fish came onto their property. Or maybe just charge the state for having their land supporting these "public" fish...
Pete
Trout Hunter
Before you get too blasé about trespassing.....
In the mid '90s, I was in the Boonton court house taking care of a minor traffic violation....
Before they did the routine stuff, the Judge had a couple of arraignments:
In the mid '90s, I was in the Boonton court house taking care of a minor traffic violation....
Before they did the routine stuff, the Judge had a couple of arraignments:
- A Drunk Driver (had been driving drunk while license suspended for multiple drunk driving offenses). Wearing civilian clothes, came and left on his own.
- A Trespasser Wearing an orange jumpsuit, escorted by a burley guard, he was in chains. When it was over the guard escorted him out.
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Rusty Spinner
Active member
First of all, I know of nothing in the US Constitution that allows for free public access. This isn't a federal issue, it's a states' rights issue, hence access laws being different from state to state.
That said, the process to change access laws would be no different than any other laws. You would work with a like-minded organization or persons to draft legislation. You would then find a House and Senate member on the appropriate committees to gain their support, have them get the bills through committee and onto the floor for an up or down vote. If approved, it goes to the Governor's desk for signature or veto. See, that silly Super 8 movie we all watched as a kid in elementary school on how a bill becomes a law comes in handy 40 years later
But I don't see any stomach for this in NJ. Just my two cents. It would be seen by private landowners as a "taking" akin to Eminent Domain.
bkill
Quest for the Two Headed Trout
jimmy229oz
New member
This argument is a waste of energy. The same people who own the land are the same people with the big bucks. They use those big bucks to influence politicians who need their donations. The politicians do their bidding or risk getting cut off.
There would need to be quite a few more like minded people than just us to override the dollars at stake from donors.
This is the reality, everything else is pillow talk.
There would need to be quite a few more like minded people than just us to override the dollars at stake from donors.
This is the reality, everything else is pillow talk.
The sad part is that you are 100 percent correct. Us average people think that a million dollars is a lot of money. The truth is that the people who are locking the accesses up have billions of dollars.
A few clubs lists their members and there are some real HEAVY hitters on thier rosters. Some might have hundreds of billions of collars.
A few clubs lists their members and there are some real HEAVY hitters on thier rosters. Some might have hundreds of billions of collars.
I also would favor Montana's stream access law. I can see the point of view of a landowner not wanting a bunch of fisherman walking through his back yard, or a farmer not wanting his fields trampled down. I pass a lot of posted areas where there might be 50 feet of land between the road and the river. No body would hang out on this little strip of property, kids wouldn't party there and no one would have a picnic there. I can only think that the landower does not want anyone to fish in this section of river. I find this to be very frustrating. I can even understand a private club posting water, but if your not using it and neither will anyone else, why not let someone go fishing. Just me 2 cents.
G Lech
New member
With the exception of fishing clubs, you would be very suprised what a knock on the door can do. Recently I asked a homeowner if he would mind I fished where he posted his signs. His reply was yes and said he only posted he signs b/c he didn't kids back there goofing around. So a few days ago I was walking down the this hill and he said "did you park way over there" I said "yes" He replied " thats a good hike, why dont you just park on the edge of my driveway" I was so taken back. What a nice guy.
