Rod ferrules

[klg neighbor]

Although this has not happened to me, but what advice would you give to someone with a fishing rod where ferrules stick together? I advised making sure both male/female portions are free of dirt & grime. But what if it is still tough to separate?

 

[Ditchrat]

Although this has not happened to me, but what advice would you give to someone with a fishing rod where ferrules stick together? I advised making sure both male/female portions are free of dirt & grime. But what if it is still tough to separate?

Place the ferrule between the back of your legs, with one hand on either side of the knee pull apart. The position keeps you from bending the rod as you pull.

Works like a charm

 

[klg neighbor]

Place the ferrule between the back of your legs, with one hand on either side of the knee pull apart. The position keeps you from bending the rod as you pull.

Works like a charm

Thanks, I forgot to tell my friend that one.

What about preventing it from sticking in the first place? Obviously, a light sanding is risky.

 

[Ditchrat]

Thanks, I forgot to tell my friend that one.

What about preventing it from sticking in the first place? Obviously, a light sanding is risky.

ferrule wax keeps them tight and keeps them from binding

 

[klg neighbor]

ferrule wax keeps them tight and keeps them from binding

I didn't know such a product existed.

 

[Ditchrat]

Its the spey in me

 

[Agust]

There are two common ways to get the rod apart. Behind the knees works if you are alone. If you can find a friend use the four handed method, Stand facing each other, each person hold the front and back pieces. So you have two hands on the top, and two on the bottom. Then you both pull together.

As to prevention yes, sanding is bad.

Clean the male side with some alcohol (not Scotch, rubbing) and a rag, also use a Q-tip to clean the female side also with alcohol.

Ferrule wax is nothing but over priced unscented candle wax, just apply a very small amount to the male side. Rub the male side with a candle, then wipe away any excess with a rag (or you shirt sleeve). To much wax allows dirt to get in there. Another trick is to use "nose oil", this is the oil from along the ouside your nose. This should not be done on metal ferrules as they oil is somewhat acidic and bad for the metal. It is actually pretty good for internal and slip over ferrules, and you don't need more crap in your vest.

 

[klg neighbor]

There are two common ways to get the rod apart. Behind the knees works if you are alone. If you can find a friend use the four handed method, Stand facing each other, each person hold the front and back pieces. So you have two hands on the top, and two on the bottom. Then you both pull together.

As to prevention yes, sanding is bad.

Clean the male side with some alcohol (not Scotch, rubbing) and a rag, also use a Q-tip to clean the female side also with alcohol.

Ferrule wax is nothing but over priced unscented candle wax, just apply a very small amount to the male side. Rub the male side with a candle, then wipe away any excess with a rag (or you shirt sleeve). To much wax allows dirt to get in there. Another trick is to use "nose oil", this is the oil from along the outside your nose. This should not be done on metal ferrules as they oil is somewhat acidic and bad for the metal. It is actually pretty good for internal and slip over ferrules, and you don't need more crap in your vest.

Outside the nose? I've been doing it all wrong :dizzy:
What about a graphite? I'm thinking wax can attrack and hold dirt.

Scotch should never be wasted I've heard.

 

[Joe D]

The wax you apply is a very, very, very light coating. You only need to do it once, maybe twice a season.

It's also important to assemble the rod correctly from the beginning. Lightly put the ferrules together at a 90 degree angle to each other and slowly rotate them as you push them together and line up the guides.

 

[Agust]

Joe D is spot on, you should not be able to "see" any of the wax. It is just a trace lubricant, and not glopped on. Otherwise as you stated it is just a place for dirt and dust to gather and gunk up the works.

Twice a season would be overkill, I usually do it once every couple of years. If you store the rod exposed to dirt, then clean and apply more often. But if you store your rod in the sock and tube it came with, dirt should not be an issue.

 

[Joe D]

I usually do it once every couple of years.

August,

You need to fish more often!

 

[klg neighbor]

August,

You need to fish more often!

I have not done it ever and some of the rods I own are going on 15 years. Maybe I need to get out more.

 

[biggerthomas]

I didn't know such a product existed.

My St Croix came with the wax and it works well. But I, too, heard some old timers say to use the "natural wax" that you can get from your face if you swipe two fingers down along either side of your nose...(seriously)

 

[irish1]

I have the opposite problem, my rod won't stay together, and when I asked about it I was told to use ferrule wax. If the wax helps to stop the sections from sticking how is it going to help them stop comming apart?

 

[afishinado]

I've never used ferrule wax, but I do use paraffin wax (candle wax) on all my rods. Some rods stick together too tightly, and some are loose as you describe. I've been using paraffin wax for 20 +/- years after I read that Sage recommends it.

Sage

I have not had a problem with either a rod sticking or coming apart. I apply it as needed, maybe 2 or 3 times a year on rods I use a lot, and less for rods seldom used. When I wax the ferrules, I usually wipe down the rod with Pledge wax as Sage recommends. It works well for me.

 

[eddavidson9]

I have the opposite problem, my rod won't stay together, and when I asked about it I was told to use ferrule wax. If the wax helps to stop the sections from sticking how is it going to help them stop comming apart?

It's viscous enough to help prevent/delay/slow the ferrules from rattling against each other and losening, but it lubricates them enough that longitudinal forces can more easily separate the sections. It essentially results in a better fit.

If that doesnt work for you, think of a well lubricated bearing...under no load, the lubricant only adds friction, but to operate under load without lubricant might cause it to seize.

 

[klg neighbor]

I have the opposite problem, my rod won't stay together, and when I asked about it I was told to use ferrule wax. If the wax helps to stop the sections from sticking how is it going to help them stop comming apart?

Use Cyanoacrylate and buy a longer tube!:rofl:

Just kidding.

Seems to me that the wax may work also for holding them together. It may provide additional friction at low loads, but decreases friction at high loads than using nothing. Probably worth a try.

Anyone else?

 

[klg neighbor]

Also check this out.

Ferrule Care - Spey Fishing - Quest Outdoors, Ltd.

 

[Andy B]

One item that was not mentioned at all, Ok you have no ferrul wax and you by your self. If you car can fit the rod in one piece like my ford escape. Drive home and put some ice in a baggie and place on the stuck ferrul section for about 15 minutes. The stuck ferrule section will come apart very easy. Sometimes ferruls do get stuck and it is not due to dirt.


Andy Brasko

 

[Rich T]

Try using some Brasso polish on the male ferrule.
It will remove the oxidation, and allow the two ferrules to fit better.
Regards,
Rich T