lightenup
A fan of Boobery
Yes sir.....
my bad, you are correct on both points...
just saying though.....about Donald and Hillary
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Yes sir.....
my bad, you are correct on both points...
just saying though.....about Donald and Hillary
golden beetle
Active member
For the Republicans out there...
Did the discussion of penis size between Little Marco and Big Donald change your vote?
I think this is the first time ever that the important issue of penis size has been debated in a presidential election year.
#Penissizematters.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-small-hands-marco-rubio/
Did the discussion of penis size between Little Marco and Big Donald change your vote?
I think this is the first time ever that the important issue of penis size has been debated in a presidential election year.
#Penissizematters.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-small-hands-marco-rubio/
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
A couple of republicans arguing about penis size vs. a couple of libs trying to see who the bigger vagina is. Same difference.
lightenup
A fan of Boobery
Penises, vaginas, sounds like someone is gonna' get fucked......
golden beetle
Active member
Lets be careful here. For you, the democrats are like vaginas.
That may be why you don't like them?
I'm guessing Big Donald has your vote.
#penissizematters
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
Somehow I couldn't get my mind off of the 15 trillion dollars in new taxes being proposed by a guy who has lived off of the taxpayers his whole life.
tomfly
The only thing left should be foot prints.
The Media and the scared upper echelon of both parties are so out of touch on why a Communist and a business mogul that cant hold his tongue are so dynamic in this election. I may not agree with either of them. I understand why this is happening. There is a large segment of population in this country that feels betrayed by this Government for the past quarter century. How can a Communist with a tax the nation to oblivion get any traction? Because some people believe the American Dream is on an unfair playing field. I see where that emotion is coming from. When privilege is given to a select few (cooperate welfare) the majority of the population are left bewildered standing there scratching their heads. This is what has been so appealing to the Communists argument. On the other side you have a guy that basically has no standing on any issue or has no policy to provide a solution. I get his point on this as well. If you look at any policy that that politicians has touted for over the past few decades, most have been a series of disasters. Our economic polices will give us a soon to be 21 trillion dollar debt. Let me put this in perspective. If you were to live for 100 years. That would be a little over 3.1 trillion seconds. So if a person was to contribute a one dollar for ever second of their life to pay off the debt. It would take over 700 years to do. Our foreign policies have destabilized nations across the Middle East to subvert the spread of terrorism. We see how that is panning out. Our trade and environmental policies are the main culprits in the mass exodus of manufacturing jobs. So why have polices? Most politicians will stick to their policies even if they are not working to give the illusion that they are correct on what they believe. I think Trump does not want to follow the “Policy model”. I think he wants treat each issue as a unique one. I don’t think wants to have a one size fits all approach system that has never worked.
Contrary to what I have been reading recent posts. I think what is happening in this country is a good thing. Voter turn out has been the highest ever. The two parties miscalculated on how far they can go with what they are doing. They have awoken the sleeping.
Contrary to what I have been reading recent posts. I think what is happening in this country is a good thing. Voter turn out has been the highest ever. The two parties miscalculated on how far they can go with what they are doing. They have awoken the sleeping.
mudbug201
loose loops, sink tips
One of my favorite posts of yours Tom. Agree w/ every word of this. Even though I kind of suspect I'm coming at this thing from a different ideological point of view than yours, I think you've got it pegged.
I'd add the usual addendum about how we should all be talking fishing instead. EBSs on the SBR and so forth. But just happy to see any action on this site which I thought had finally bought the farm.
I'd add the usual addendum about how we should all be talking fishing instead. EBSs on the SBR and so forth. But just happy to see any action on this site which I thought had finally bought the farm.
golden beetle
Active member
I think Tom is a mad genius.
He is consistently right while being 100% wrong.
But this is far from his greatest moment.
While I don't believe Tom is the inventor of the cased caddis, from what I understand he considered litigation against fly tier magazine for misappropriating his pattern. The case turned on intricate questions of intellectual property law, such as whether or not fly patterns should be protected by the U.S. Patent Office.
("Can I sue for patent infringement, if I don't have a patent?")
"Tom's intellectual property" - an interesting concept to consider, say, as a metaphysical/existential possibility - doesn't seem particularly valuable... But he vigorously made his case.
Pun intended.
Tom's case was not judged strong enough to proceed to court, by his team of legal advisors - here on NEFF.
But he credibly argued that he discovered the cased caddis natural, and that no other tier had seen it but him. While flies are imitations of naturals, he suggested that the magazine writers discovered the pattern from a post of his on NEFF, and had imitated his pattern from pictures he posted here, and not from naturals on the river.
Trout Nazi
And...Boom goes the dynamite.
Damn right he does. And like his schlong, I hope he builds that wall extra long and extra thick.
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
It's only good if it leads to people becoming more informed ams not exchanging one set of problems for another set of problems. A Protest vote without vetting the candidate you are shifting to is not a great plan. Besides we should stop trying to put our faith in one individual and start putting more faith in ourselves, our communities , and our states. You can change a lot just by changing those 3 things.
golden beetle
Active member
Excellent idea.
The wall should be designed to look like an extra long and extra thick penis.
#penissizematters
golden beetle
Active member
The people who have become "more informed" are those who recognize now, without a doubt remaining, that the Republican Party is the party of hate, racism and ignorance, corporate greed and oligarchy, rejection of science, as well as repressed homosexuality.
#penissizematters
tomfly
The only thing left should be foot prints.
The process vetting a Candidate is based on the pretense of honesty. If you look at the track record of Politicians. They will say and do anything to get elected. Both parties will prop-up the Candidate that they feel serves their best interests. Intelligence, a balanced moral code, integrity all should be essential qualities for any individual elected to office. These are not the values that the upper party officials seek. They want someone who will follow the parties agenda and without questioning the validity of that duty. The current vetting process is a skewed system without any virtue.
All good statements, but again the political élite in both parties will fight with all the resources they have to restrain individualism, a sense of community, and allowing the states to self juristic. All three would remove power from a centralized system. The only way to accomplish that, the American public would have cleanse the government through the electoral process.
golden beetle
Active member
tomfly
The only thing left should be foot prints.
Not as much as you are. I am starting to believe that you are actually a closet conservative.
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
I don't buy it Tom. I think voters are generally lazy. When you are looking to one person to make a difference rather than engage in changing politics at the local, county and state level you can see why guys like trump and sanders have appeal. One promises economic populism via the greedy corporation route. He pits folks against each other and claims all societies woes are the fault of evil Corp. amd corrupt politicians. The other simply says all politicians are inept stupid liars and he's awesome so he wil make America great again. Never mind he has no plans and his statements are ridiculous. If we are that
Any not to look at these guys closer and gain a better understanding of who they are shame on us.
Any not to look at these guys closer and gain a better understanding of who they are shame on us.
lightenup
A fan of Boobery
We need someone who thinks like this....with humility and a desire to serve and be the best they can for the nation, not a boob who thinks they are perfect for the job and the best thing since sliced bread,,,
"Any student of Washington’s life might have predicted that he would acknowledge his election in a short, self-effacing speech full of disclaimers. “While I realize the arduous nature of the task which is conferred on me and feel my inability to perform it,” he replied to Thomson, “I wish there may not be reason for regretting the choice. All I can promise is only that which can be accomplished by an honest zeal.” This sentiment of modesty jibed so perfectly with Washington’s private letters that it could not have been feigned: he wondered whether he was fit for the post, so unlike anything he had ever done. The hopes for republican government, he knew, rested in his hands. As commander in chief, he had been able to wrap himself in a self-protective silence, but the presidency would leave him with no place to hide and expose him to public censure as nothing before."
From a Smithsonian article on George Washington...
But people like this will never find themselves in a place of power in today's world.....humble folks would never push hard enough to get to the places they need to be to run the USA.....
all the candidates suck....we are doomed..
Beetle, you are as big a boob as Trump......
"Any student of Washington’s life might have predicted that he would acknowledge his election in a short, self-effacing speech full of disclaimers. “While I realize the arduous nature of the task which is conferred on me and feel my inability to perform it,” he replied to Thomson, “I wish there may not be reason for regretting the choice. All I can promise is only that which can be accomplished by an honest zeal.” This sentiment of modesty jibed so perfectly with Washington’s private letters that it could not have been feigned: he wondered whether he was fit for the post, so unlike anything he had ever done. The hopes for republican government, he knew, rested in his hands. As commander in chief, he had been able to wrap himself in a self-protective silence, but the presidency would leave him with no place to hide and expose him to public censure as nothing before."
From a Smithsonian article on George Washington...
But people like this will never find themselves in a place of power in today's world.....humble folks would never push hard enough to get to the places they need to be to run the USA.....
all the candidates suck....we are doomed..
Beetle, you are as big a boob as Trump......
tomfly
The only thing left should be foot prints.
I disagree Mac what you see as lazy, I see as disillusioned. Most Americans sit in the center and hold the same core values. Until now the consciences was; Who ever I vote for will not change anything. " Either way my vote does not matter." I disagree with that sentiment. If you don't vote you remove the small voice that you have. I don't believe people are all that stupid. I do believe that they are scared. I think the are fed up with welfare period. I think they are fed up with 1000 applicants for one job. I think they are fed up with an ever more and more intrusive government. I think they are fed up with what we have to show for a 21 trillion dollar debt. They are fed up with PC culture. I think the are fed up with every special interest group that has a bitch having a say, And they feel that they have none. Mac you can believe what you want. The Government has refuses to fix the problems and kept kicking the can. What you seeing now are problems that are auto correcting themselves. One of the unforeseen processes of this, is a pissed off public and the beginning of a cold revolution.
MACFLY
Too many streams too little time
First stupid and lazy are 2 different things. I think there is ample evidence to suggest both are in play. First let's look at some facts. We have some of the lowest voter turn out for federal elections and even less turn out at the state, county, and local level where real change can be implemented. This isn't a recent phenomenon it's been a lengthy trend. Second there are over 80 congressmen still in congress for 20 years or longer so clearly we keep voting for the same people over and over again expecting a different result. That to me suggests perhaps we are so smart. Third and this is key we voted 8 years ago for a guy who had a slogan of change but no one seriously vetted him, challenged his assertions, dug into his background and his views in a realistic manner. Fast forward to current day and there is a guy saying he wants to America great again. What exactly do we really know and understand about him? How deeply has he been vetted? I see millions of people rationalizing this guys action and words. Why because as you say they are frustrated with the establishment. I get it. I just don't agree with it. Similarly you have millions of people following Sen sanders why becuse he puts out the same basic speech whenever he has the mic. Corporate America is to blame for your woes and I'm the guy who make it right. His record indicates he won't accomplish much but no one pays attention to that. Just keep listening to the rhetoric.
Perhaps if we were more serious, participated a bit more in our communities we could actually achieve real change, fix what ails us, and then not be so reliant on a single person or a large federal Goliath. That's my thought on all of this.