last I heard Orvis had turned over manufacter to Simms or some other major wader mfgr to be sold under the Orvis name, if this is true, the quality should be ok. Aslo I have had the Orvis Guide waders for three years with no problem, I also know a guy who fisher 2-3 times a week and has had his for over a year with no problem. I think the problems were with one of the cheaper models.