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Fish & Boat Commission to Inspect Marcellus Shale Drilling Sites

Joe D

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Harrisburg, PA – Law enforcement officers and biologists with the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission (PFBC) will begin conducting field inspections of active drilling sites for Marcellus Shale gas wells beginning next month, the agency announced today.

“Until now our agency has only reacted to those drilling sites where a problem resulted in material entering a waterway or wetlands,” said Dr. Douglas Austen, PFBC executive director. “We are now taking a proactive approach to identify possible problems at a drilling site and to work with the company to ensure necessary measures are in place to minimize the possibility of damaging nearby waterways.”

The agency will focus on those well sites that are in close proximity to Commonwealth waterways, including wetlands. The inspections will determine if adequate measures are in place at the drilling site and access roads to prevent damage to the nearby aquatic resources. As part of the inspections, PFBC staff will also be obtaining water quality data from several locations in the nearby waterway.

“The commission recognizes the need for and importance of the development of the Marcellus Shale for gas production and believes in can be accomplished in a manner that provides protection to Pennsylvania’s valuable aquatic resources,” Austen added. “Because of the importance of this issue, waterways conservation officers and field staff have set aside other job duties and functions for a period of time in order to conduct these field inspections.”

More than 150 active well sites have been identified so far for inspections, which are expected to take place over the next several months.

The mission of the Fish and Boat Commission is to protect, conserve, and enhance the Commonwealth’s aquatic resources and provide fishing and boating opportunities. For more information about fishing and boating in Pennsylvania, please visit our website at www.fishandboat.com.
 
Harrisburg, PA – Law enforcement officers and biologists with the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission (PFBC) will begin conducting field inspections of active drilling sites for Marcellus Shale gas wells beginning next month, the agency announced today.

I guess it's a good thing I investigated that whole "frack fluid is legal on the roadways in PA" thing. I hope they didn't come down too hard on the guy...
 
"DEP Secretary John Hanger said the new fees, which went into effect Oct. 26, are based on well length and type, and replace a flat $100 fee established in 1984. Under the new structure, vertical wells with a bore length of up to 2,000 feet will now have a base permit cost of $250 with an additional $50 applied for each additional 500 feet of length."
Agency facing $58M loss to monitor gas drilling - Washington Greene PA News - www.observer-reporter.com


Seems a little cheap for a permit that can bring in millions of dollars.
 
I agree with Joe D. The fees seem absurd considering the cost the DEP and PA Fish and Boat are incurring to monitor them. But, just to play devil's advocate the oil companies are incurring lots of cost. Wonder how much payola it took to get all their cheap permits?
 
I guess they figure that the casino licenses that yield the state a larger cut of the gambling revenues than the casino owners, is a big enough rip-off of the business community in the Commonwealth.
 
It also costs more for your guides license than it does for a dentist license.

Jeff, I did the research a few years ago when petitioning the PFBC and the PA state legislature. Most all licenses in PA cost less than a fishing guide permit... from barbers to doctors. I managed to get a bill introduced to change the fees structure that got shelved in committee. Anyway, what this shows is how the smaller you are the more the politicians will step on you. We don't tip enough.
 
I guess it's a good thing I investigated that whole "frack fluid is legal on the roadways in PA" thing. I hope they didn't come down too hard on the guy...

And what did you find out, I never saw a lick of info you posted on you findings? Perhaps I missed it, you post some many good things it's tough to keep on top of it all. BTW, in the beginning of it all I'm pretty sure I said "treated" frack fluid.
 
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And what did you find out, I never saw a lick of info you posted on you findings? Perhaps I missed it, you post some many good things it's tough to keep on top of it all. BTW, in the beginning of it all I'm pretty sure I said "treated" frack fluid.

"treated frack fluid"? You are such a lying weasel!

Here's your quote below from post 119 in the "dewatering the WB thread":

Here's a shocker I learned over the weekend: apparently it is legal to dump frack water on highways, as long as it is not near a water body! They're dumping it now in the middle of the night in unmarked trucks. If their practicies are so safe, why do some of them in the middle of the night like that?

In that thread I also quoted this twice.

In the "Rapid expansion of gas drilling has led to problems with disposal, contamination" thread it came up again and you called it "used" frack fluid.

SHOW us where you called it "treated" !

Remember when you wrote to me "Apparently you suck at reading..."?

What do YOU suck at? HEARING what your PFBC guy said? Do you suck at TYPING correctly? Do you suck at LYING to instill fear in people? Do you suck at lying to cover up your lies?

And you wrote that you don't trust ME? Absurd.

Everyone should suspect EVERYTHING you have written and will write on the subject. YOU obviously can't be trusted to provide truthful information.

As for my findings, because I am so humble, let's just say I took care of things for the good people of Pennsylvania. You are welcome too, Ryan.

If anyone has any OTHER problems with illegal pollution issues in PA, PM me; I've got people...
 
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"treated frack fluid"? You are such a lying weasel!

Here's your quote below from post 119 in the "dewatering the WB thread":



In that thread I also quoted this twice.

In the "Rapid expansion of gas drilling has led to problems with disposal, contamination" thread it came up again and you called it "used" frack fluid.

SHOW us where you called it "treated" !

Remember when you wrote to me "Apparently you suck at reading..."?

What do YOU suck at? HEARING what your PFBC guy said? Do you suck at TYPING correctly? Do you suck at LYING to instill fear in people? Do you suck at lying to cover up your lies?

And you wrote that you don't trust ME? Absurd.

Everyone should suspect EVERYTHING you have written and will write on the subject. YOU obviously can't be trusted to provide truthful information.

As for my findings, because I am so humble, let's just say I took care of things for the good people of Pennsylvania. You are welcome too, Ryan.

If anyone has any OTHER problems with illegal pollution issues in PA, PM me; I've got people...

I'm pretty sure I wrote in one of the first few posts that it was treated fluid, I guess it wasn't in the very first one but I think I did clarify it shortly after. If I didn't oh fuckin' well it's what I meant and was simply a mistake, I wasn't posting it to satisfy you anyway and I'm not under oath here. And I didn't purposely omit it either, I honestly thought early on I had clarified it and it was understood that's what we were talking about. You didn't take care of anything for PA, you sound like AK with that kind of nonsense. If you really did do any research then you would hve probably come across it as treated fluid and known I made mistake in omitting it, did you? no you have no findings do you, I aksed where you posted them and you haven't answered that question. For a guy that constantly questions others you rarely answer a question posed to you? You don't even have the common courtesy to answer a PM, even if it's to say fuck off and stop PMing me. I don't care if you think everyone should suspect anything I wrote, you don't even count in my book. Your the same level of scum in my eyes as the anti-hunters and I'd look to knock your block off if I ever came across you.
 
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I'm pretty sure I wrote in one of the first few posts that it was treated fluid, I guess it wasn't in the very first one but I think I did clarify it shortly after. If I didn't oh fuckin' well it's what I meant and was simply a mistake, I wasn't posting it to satisfy you anyway and I'm not under oath here. And I didn't purposely omit it either, I honestly thought early on I had clarified it and it was understood that's what we were talking about. You didn't take care of anything for PA, you sound like AK with that kind of nonsense. If you really did do any research then you would hve probably come across it as treated fluid and known I made mistake in omitting it, did you? no you have no findings do you, I aksed where you posted them and you haven't answered that question. For a guy that constantly questions others you rarely answer a question posed to you? You don't even have the common courtesy to answer a PM, even if it's to say fuck off and stop PMing me. I don't care if you think everyone should suspect anything I wrote, you don't even count in my book. Your the same level of scum in my eyes as the anti-hunters and I'd look to knock your block off if I ever came across you.

You didn't clarify anything. You know it; we ALL now know it. You posted that nonsense to rile everyone up about how horrible the situation was. And it was BS.

I did not post my findings. Why would you care about them? YOU did nothing to get to the bottom of the situation when you were stating that Frack water was being spread on the roadways... AND YOU WERE supposedly "SHOCKED".

"Not under oath here" ? So we now know how much honor you have in your words.

I may not "count" in your book, but at least people now know how much YOU should count.

Why am I scum? Because I try to post the truth? What does that make someone who posts a lie about something as important as toxic waste, and then lies to cover his lie?

Knock my block off? You're pathetic.
 
You didn't clarify anything. You know it; we ALL now know it. You posted that nonsense to rile everyone up about how horrible the situation was. And it was BS.

I did not post my findings. Why would you care about them? YOU did nothing to get to the bottom of the situation when you were stating that Frack water was being spread on the roadways... AND YOU WERE supposedly "SHOCKED".

"Not under oath here" ? So we now know how much honor you have in your words.

I may not "count" in your book, but at least people now know how much YOU should count.

Why am I scum? Because I try to post the truth? What does that make someone who posts a lie about something as important as toxic waste, and then lies to cover his lie?

Knock my block off? You're pathetic.

You're right I said used instead of treated, I looked back thru just about all of my posts in both topics and can't find that I said treated at all. It was a mistake and I accept responsibility for it, it was not an attempt to intentionally deceive anyone. How can I be accused of attempting to cover up this supposed lie, I'm openly admitting to my mistake? I know you won't believe me but thankfully I don't care what you think. I think most of the good people here can realize an honest mistake, expecially one that doesn't really change the point of my post (since so far you're the only one that seems to think it was so egregious I'll stand by that feeling) which was that according to one PFBC Commissioner's statement "it is legal to dump (treated) frackwater on PA highways." Treated or untreated, it's still a shocker I think to most anglers and conservationists. I know it makes no difference to me if it were treated, it should not be dumped like that.

You did not post your findings that would dispute the Commissioner's statement because I don't think you found anything, but yet your trying to claim you found something that would on this topic? Yet I'm lying and posting BS? Me, get to the bottom of it? You were the one "researching" it because you though it wasn't true. Fool, I'm not here to prove anything for you.

What I meant by not under oath is that I'm not testifying so I'm not going to be punished for any mistake. Has nothing to do with honor in my word, I always try to be truthful here and as accurate as I can. I admit my mistakes when they occur, as I did here. You seem to just be here to jump on any mistake or miswritten statement from certain people.

You're scum because that's what I think of you, it's a personal opinion I'm sharing here. I don't like you just as you have told me you don't like me.

I accept that it may be pathetic but pathetic or not, I truly would like to knock your block off. On one hand you could be flattered, you're the only here that makes me feel that way.
 
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Well at least the fish and boat commision will try to monitor them. The DEP as of Friday 11/20 just laid off 40 people in the northeast pa region
 
Here y'go:

Note the bottom paragraphs -- the ones about spreading fracking fluids on the roads...

Here's the link:
Earth Island Institute | Earth Island Journal | The EnvironmentaList

Here's the story:
Cabot Oil and Gas Faces Lawsuit in Marcellus Shale Drilling

Of all the towns that have been subjected to drilling for natural gas in Pennsylvania since the opening up of the Marcellus Shale, none have suffered more than Dimock. In just over a year several drinking water wells have been contaminated (one of which exploded on New Years Day, ripping through an 8 foot slab of concrete), numerous spills have dumped highly toxic wastewater, diesel fuel, and fracking fluid into local streams and rivers, and residents have been exposed to dangerously high levels of methane gas and heavy metals. The series of infractions on the part of Cabot Oil and Gas, a Houston based energy company that has large holdings in Dimock, resulted in a $120,000 fine from Pennsylvania’s Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) earlier this month. But the cost to residents has been far greater.

On Friday of last week 15 families in Dimock announced that they were suing Cabot for poisoning their water and the likelihood that exposure to toxic chemicals has led to personal injury, including neurological and gastro-intestinal complications. Among the plaintiffs is a Cabot employee and Dimock resident who has knowledge of company practices and violations that have not yet been reported. According to Leslie Lewis, an attorney with one of the firms representing the families, the charges against Cabot are far reaching and reveal a profound degree of negligence and fraudulent conduct. “To me they just seem like a rogue operation,” she says. “Anything goes.”

Things were supposed to go differently in Dimock. Residents were promised handsome royalties and assured that their property and surrounding farmland—their greatest asset—would not be harmed. Today, if they wanted to leave, chances are they wouldn’t be able to sell their homes. “We've all had property damage,” said Pat Farnelli, one of the plaintiffs in the case. “We've all had major downward shifts in the quality of our lives. Probably most of us are starting to feel some health effects. You've got to worry about your kids, your grandkids that live here.”

Farnelli, whose home is surrounded by gas wells, says that her children started to develop stomach problems late last summer. They would be fine at school but when they returned home at the end of the day and drank the water, the symptoms would reappear. Farnelli thought it was some kind of stomach virus and didn’t really suspect gas drilling until her neighbors told her that their water was contaminated. One day her neighbor showed her a glass of water that she says looked a bit cloudy and smelled like formaldehyde or some kind of chemical solvent. “It didn’t smell like water,” she told me.

In some cases it didn’t look like water either. Farnelli says that some residents had tap water that looked like unpasteurized apple cider with a kind of sludgy sediment on the bottom. It was a brownish orange color and had greasy bubbles on top. In 2008 Cabot drilled twenty wells in Dimock and has rapidly increased production since. They hope to drill sixty wells by the end of this year and between fifty and seventy in 2010.

There are many ways to contaminate drinking water wells. According to a Consent Order issued by the DEP in early November, Cabot failed to properly cement well casings in several instances, which can allow methane and other toxic chemicals to leak or migrate into underground aquifers and nearby drinking water wells. When that gas gets trapped in the headspaces of wells, as it did in the case of Norma Fiornetino’s drinking water well on New Years Day, it can explode. Today many residents live in fear that the same might happen to them and that their land and water has been ruined.

But they’re also in a bind. With their homes devalued and royalty payments only trickling in, all they have left are the mineral rights underneath their property. The lawsuit is intended to make up for the damages to property, health, and quality of life but it may be too late to restore the land and water to its previous condition.

Not surprisingly, the company has continued to deny that it is responsible for the undoing of Dimock. In a prepared statement, Cabot CEO Dan O. Dinges said, “we see no merit in these claims and are disappointed that these citizens felt it necessary to proceed in this fashion.”

However, it has become increasingly difficult for the company to brush away the complaints of residents in the face of overwhelming evidence. And the whistleblower in the case will certainly test the company’s ability to defend its practices. “It's horrifying to hear him speak,” said Lewis, referring to Nolan Scott Ely, the Cabot employee who has joined the lawsuit. “It'll all come out.”

"We believe we're going to find some very unpleasant things as a consequence of this suit that have yet to appear in the paper," says Michael Lebron, a spokesperson for the litigants.

Farnelli says that numerous spills and infractions have gone unreported. Particularly alarming is the dumping of wastewater on roads and fields in Dimock. Throughout the summer, Farnelli says, Cabot made a point of “watering” the road that she lives on—a dirt road that has washed out several times since drilling began—to control dust even though no one was complaining about the dust. The strange thing was that it rained a lot last summer, and to Farnelli and others Cabot’s actions never really made sense. Why water the road just before it was supposed to rain?

Using tank trucks, the company would spray the road from one end to the other. Walking back from her neighbor’s one day, Farnelli noticed that the water smelled bad and seemed to have some kind of oil or detergent in it. You could see rainbows in it when the sun hit and there were large bubbles on the surface that just sat there and didn’t break. When residents complained, Cabot started using trucks that said “Fresh Water” on them.

"We think it was produced water,” Farnelli told me. “We think it was frack water." Hydraulic fracturing is a controversial technique that breaks open the shale by injecting millions of gallons of water, sand, and chemicals also known as fracking fluid deep underground to release the gas. The produced water that comes to the surface often contains naturally occurring radioactive elements and the residual chemicals used in the fracking process. Storing and treating the produced water has emerged as one of the most important issues facing Pennsylvania and New York, where horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing are relatively new. According to Farnelli Cabot also sent tank trucks into surrounding fields to empty them of wastewater. Sometimes it would take two days.

“We know that was frack water because there were people who lived around here working for them. And they were some of the ones who had to do it,” she says.

Local residents who have worked on clean up crews after Cabot’s spills have also been exposed to highly toxic chemicals. According to Lewis, on one occasion, two local workers were sent into a pit as part of a clean up crew with no protective gear. They literally burned their hands from the toxic waste.

In the meantime Cabot continues to expand its drilling operations throughout the country. Although the price of natural gas has fallen dramatically, the company’s production for the year is up approximately 10 percent according to a recent statement. In the third quarter of this year they reported a net income of $38.9 million.

Residents of Dimock are still struggling to pay their mortgages.

“One hand giveth not nearly as much as what was promised,” says Lebron, “while the other hand took away everything.”
 
As I have noted in other threads herein on the Marcellus Shale controversy; Dimock, the town having all the problems with Cabot Oil Co., is also the home town of Pennsylvania's Representative from the 10th Congressional District, Christopher Carney.

No one knows if his well has been affected, or if he has been home long enough to check on it. At any rate, he has been silent on this issue. You can contact him on this matter here on his website:

Representative Christopher P. Carney, Proudly Serving the People of the 10th District of Pennsylvania

Carney, a new congressman, still seems to be on a long learning curve with his district. He is not a native of Pennsylvania, (He was a College Professor at the Scranton Campus of Penn State.) and he appears to be still learning about it, BUT, and this is important, he is from Cedar Rapids, Iowa and the state of Iowa is notorious for the pollution of it's drinking water!

Report says herbicide levels in Iowa drinking water are dangerous Iowa Independent

It is evident that he is knowledgeable about the problems caused by ground water pollution and he has been curiously silent on this matter. His district covers the entire North East corner of Pennsylvania and includes the watersheds of the Susquehanna River and the Delaware River.

It would be interesting to find out how much money the Gas Industry has contributed to his Campaign fund?

Bob K.
 
Christopher Carney

enough to check on it. At any rate, he has been silent on this issue.

BUT, and this is important, he is from Cedar Rapids, Iowa and the state of Iowa is notorious for the pollution of it's drinking water!

It is evident that he is knowledgeable about the problems caused by ground water pollution and he has been curiously silent on this matter. His district covers the entire North East corner of Pennsylvania and includes the watersheds of the Susquehanna River and the Delaware River.

It would be interesting to find out how much money the Gas Industry has contributed to his Campaign fund?

Bob K.

Because if someone is NOT rabidly against the drilling industy, this MUST be true, yes?
 
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