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Delaware Still cooking despite precip levels close to average

NJFred

Trout Hunter
Lordville at 75 degrees.. Lower WBD continues to be near 72 (as judged by the Hancock gage). All this when NYC reservoirs are essentially at normal fill and filled. 95.5% actual vs 96.8% normal filled. More incredible, precip near normal as well for the Spring (From NYC's own web site see below).

9.39 inches from April to current date is normal. 7.95 inches actual (with heavy rain in the forecast). Actual precip only 85% of normal and only a little over an inch below ave for the time period.

We can only wonder what their black box is forecasting for water over the next month (not that this really matters). Another reminder that anything over table 4a in terms of releases is strictly "voluntary" by NYC and in "normal" water availability NYC is simply going to continue to screw the fishery.

Precipitation
(inches)
Actual Historical
April: 3.11 3.60
May: 2.58 4.29
June: 2.26 1.50
 
Lordville at 75 degrees.. Lower WBD continues to be near 72 (as judged by the Hancock gage). All this when NYC reservoirs are essentially at normal fill and filled. 95.5% actual vs 96.8% normal filled. More incredible, precip near normal as well for the Spring (From NYC's own web site see below).

9.39 inches from April to current date is normal. 7.95 inches actual (with heavy rain in the forecast). Actual precip only 85% of normal and only a little over an inch below ave for the time period.

We can only wonder what their black box is forecasting for water over the next month (not that this really matters). Another reminder that anything over table 4a in terms of releases is strictly "voluntary" by NYC and in "normal" water availability NYC is simply going to continue to screw the fishery.

Precipitation
(inches)
Actual Historical
April: 3.11 3.60
May: 2.58 4.29
June: 2.26 1.50

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Fred, grab a seat.

Jim is springing for eats at the Circle E.

All you have to do is sit through his schpiel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFwFgG9NE8

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I've been telling my son I'd take him fishing for a while now. Yesterday, I took him on a party boat out of the Atlantic Highlands yesterday and we had a blast.

I'll get him on the D in the fall I guess, unless we get some cold water before then.
 
I've been telling my son I'd take him fishing for a while now. Yesterday, I took him on a party boat out of the Atlantic Highlands yesterday and we had a blast.

I'll get him on the D in the fall I guess, unless we get some cold water before then.

Fluke, Bluefish, Stripers?......Keepers? I
need to get back out on those diesel suckers.....

"I love the smell of diesel in the morning....smells like fishin'...."
 
Lordville at 75 degrees.. Lower WBD continues to be near 72 (as judged by the Hancock gage). All this when NYC reservoirs are essentially at normal fill and filled. 95.5% actual vs 96.8% normal filled. More incredible, precip near normal as well for the Spring (From NYC's own web site see below).


Precipitation
(inches)
Actual Historical
April: 3.11 3.60
May: 2.58 4.29
June: 2.26 1.50


This season highlights the fact that the OST is the issue. We had a dry early spring, but capacity is essentially at avg levels and rain for the month is above normal yet we are in very low conservative release levels because of extremely conservative projections that no one can see under the OST. Its a joke. Any plan will fail if the OST continues to be applied with such non transparency and armageddon is predicted over a dry april and may. If this storm hits and nothing changes delaware river advocates really have a beef because we will be ABOVE avg capacity for the year and near 100% yet still in at 250cfs releases because of no "future precipitation" forecasted despite the fact a 1-2'' rain just happened but of course was not predicted so no reason or ability to account for it. Keeping my fingers crossed.
 
I've been telling my son I'd take him fishing for a while now. Yesterday, I took him on a party boat out of the Atlantic Highlands yesterday and we had a blast.

I'll get him on the D in the fall I guess, unless we get some cold water before then.

Yup... like the salt. The fish will be there but the way it's going, they will be only as big as they are today and some may look anemic. The stop eating at around 73 degrees.
 
Yup... like the salt. The fish will be there but the way it's going, they will be only as big as they are today and some may look anemic. The stop eating at around 73 degrees.

Maybe they stop eating for you, NJFred.

Not to boast of my skills personally, but I'm able to catch fish on flies in 75+ degree water, consistently.

Just about when oldtimers like you say the fish wont eat, right?

Cabarle says that they'll take olives in 80 degree water, so he's always got one in his box for the hot days.
 
Well looks like some good news. All rivers seem to have gotten material water. Best news of all is the situation above Walton...Walton Gauge on the WBD showing 1200CFS this AM.

How ironic would it be to see Cannonsville spill by the end of the month? Unlikely but another rain storm or two above the reservoir like this one and it could certainly happen.

Oh... at least this AM the release from Cannonsville hasn't changed. Funny thing is that now, finally, NYC, may increase the Cannonsville release a bit more. However, Hale is at 2,500CFS. Until the WBD gets a little lower we don't need more of a release. This would be a prime example of why we need at thermal release trigger in the mix. It can conserve water maximizing the release when we need it.
 
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