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Cold water waders question.

GreyFox

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Bought a very decent pair of new Gortex waders this spring at a reputable store. Sales guy actually told me many fisherman are now using the new Gortex waders year round. Have not winter fished in a few years and thinking my old neoprene waders probably need replacement and just cannot convince myself there is enough underwear/fleece in the world to make January-April fishing comfortable wearing Gortex. On the other hand, really hate the neo's.

If Gortex being worn in the winter I suspect they must be boot foot to be warmer?

Any suggestion appreciated.
 
I gave up neoprenes years ago - too bulky and they don't breath so I just sweat in them and then get cold. I use my stockingfoot breathables and layer up with a thin, tight fitting and moisture wicking material and then add looser and heavier (also moisture wicking) layers on top of that up to 3 layers or so deep. Two pairs of socks, again moisture wicking and you're all set.
 
I have been wearing neoprene for years and i like them. They are hot in the summer but i deal with it. They are a great help in the winter and fall though.
 
Breathable are the way to. Honestly I dont see the point in spending a ton of cash on waders. They all end up leaking. Buy from a company with a good return policy. I used boot for years for fishing saltwater. Then I got into the fly things this year freash so I got a pair of stocking foot to provide better support on slippery rocks etc. I have fished on some COLD nights in the salt in breatheables. They are just more versatile. Longjohns and fleece pants in the winter and shorts in the summer (unless you wet wade which i do occasionally)
 
Everybody gave great advice. Fleece is you friend and cotton is your ENEMY. Layer right and you'll be fine.

Jeremy
 
I concur with Breathables. With all of the hi-tech undergarments available these days, you can easily customize your warmth levels. I use under armour cold gear in fall and Hot Chilly's when the temps drop for winter steelheading. They are a little pricey, but worth every penny, imho.
 
Bought a very decent pair of new Gortex waders this spring at a reputable store. Sales guy actually told me many fisherman are now using the new Gortex waders year round. Have not winter fished in a few years and thinking my old neoprene waders probably need replacement and just cannot convince myself there is enough underwear/fleece in the world to make January-April fishing comfortable wearing Gortex. On the other hand, really hate the neo's.

If Gortex being worn in the winter I suspect they must be boot foot to be warmer?

Any suggestion appreciated.
I fish for chromers in the winter, and layer up under a pair of boot foot breathables. My trick is to use throw-away foot warmers that self stick under my toes. They eventually will cool off (lack of oxygen from being in the water) all I do is get out for 5 minutes and they heat right back up again!
Breathables are good all year round! Plus, they all leak eventually anyway...may as well just buy one pair!
 
Bought a very decent pair of new Gortex waders this spring at a reputable store. Sales guy actually told me many fisherman are now using the new Gortex waders year round. Have not winter fished in a few years and thinking my old neoprene waders probably need replacement and just cannot convince myself there is enough underwear/fleece in the world to make January-April fishing comfortable wearing Gortex. On the other hand, really hate the neo's.

If Gortex being worn in the winter I suspect they must be boot foot to be warmer?

Any suggestion appreciated.

Greyfox,

I've never owned a pair of Gortex waders so I cannot comment on them. However, I've been winter fishing the Salmon River for 12 years now and over the years have learned how to stay warm all day on the river and the whole package is not that expensive. One day last winter we hit the river and it was -10 and only got up to 17. We were on the river from 7am -6pm and never got cold.

Hodgeman 3.5mm neoprene waders:
60.00 - stocking foot waders or
85.00 - boot foot waders (Dicks Sporting Goods)

Undergarments:

For feet:
7.00 - Wigwam or Cabella's wickaway sock liners (Ramsey's or Cabella's)
12.00 - Wigwam or Cabellas -40 Merino wool socks (Ramsey's or Cabella's)

For lower body:
15.00 - Rocky cold weather long underware (with wickaway) (Walmart)
You can do the same with Merino wool but it will cost more. Then wear a pair of comfortable pants. Preferably not jeans cause the seams will create pressure points.

For upper body:
15.00 - Rocky cold weather long undershirt (with wickaway) (Walmart)
Then wear a fleece shirt and over that a cotton hooded sweatshirt (you probably already have these).

For face:
5.00 - Fleece face mask. I wear Turtle Fur (like fleese). (Ramsey's or Cabella's)

Hands:
20.00 - 2 pair of Merino wool gloves. Second pair in case your gloves get wet. (Fat Nancy's)

Outer garment:
Waterproof jacket. Doesn't need to be heavy. You probably already have one.

Things to remember:
Do not wear cotton against your skin.
Your feet and legs will be fine, but layer your upper body so if you begin to sweat you can remove some clothes.
Keep hand warmers going in your coat pockets so you can warm your fingers when cold. Cold fingers will make you shiver faster than anything and take your mind off of what's really important...that fish biting on the other end of your line.
If you wear stocking foot waders get boots that are 2 sizes larger than your foot size. The air space will help keep your feet warm.
The first 30 minutes on the river your body will be adjusting to the cold...that will pass.
When your feet start feeling cool (about every hour) get out of the water and walk a bit or run in place to get your heart rate up.

I would try this with your Gorgex waders and see of you stay warm before buying neos.

I carry a backpack with a few items that have become essentials to me when winter fishing. Water, emergency blanket, toilet paper, and a change of clothes in case I go for a swim. Backpack gas stove with fuel (about the size of a coffee cup), tin cup for heating water, and single cup coffee pouches. A cup of hot coffee on the river will do wonders for you on a cold damp day.

Good luck and stay warm,
Cdog
 
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Wear Patagonia Capilenes and you will be fine under a set of breathables. You have many weight options, although they are not cheap... I wear this under a pair of Simms breathables with a pair of SmartWools - never had a problem since moving from the neoprenes which are just too bulky for me.
 
if you're looking to gear up for winter wading, sierra trading post is having a sale right now...

Sale at Sierra Trading Post - Save 35-70% on Famous Name Brands

if you can't find everything you're looking for in the sale, check out the rest of their inventory, everything they carry is at a discount anyway.

i just ordered a pair of wading boots (for m'lady), hiking boots, casual shoes, 2 full sets of thermal undies and 2 pairs of sock liners for 150+ shipping.
 
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