JOE.T
Dry Flies Only
No we should not be thanking NYC.
If you really took the time to understand how much water is available you would realize that there is enough water to accomplish 3 things.
1.NYC Drinking water
2.Montaque at 1750
3.Enough water for a healthy fishery.
You don't need need a 1000 cfs, in fact you don't need even 500 cfs on the WB
It was proven many years ago "The Shepard Study" that 325 CFS would provide enough water to keep the trout healthy from the top to bottom of the WB.
You need a little more on the EB (maybe 75 cfs) to keep it cool enough to Harvard and the Neversink maybe another 40 cfs.
What you need to understand is that the FFMP only uses the Cannonsville,Pepacton and the Neversink as Total Storage.
They are not taking into account the 4 other reservoirs.
1.Schoharie
2.Ashokan
3.Rondout
4.Croton
These 4 are accounted in there equation for drinking purposes but not the FFMP.
That's roughly 260 Billion Gallons of additional water they have.
You also now have
1.Lake Wallenpaupack
2.Rio
To take care of Montaque, which wasn't the case 7/8 years ago.
So in other words there is plenty of water in the entire system to achieve all 3 goals.
If you told me we're going to 325 cfs from May through August I'd throw the party.
I don't think everyone would agree with the lower number but it would work for the fishery.
However you do need thermal protection down to Buck.Forget Calicoon,Hankins, and Lordville.
That has to be in place..It never should get above 72 down to Buck.
You could pulse water from Midnight to Noon the next day at 1000.It would bring the temps down low enough where you probably could go every other day until the heat wave subsides..The 1000 is just an educated guess it could be less.
To reiterate this thermal protection is not a consistent release.
Just some ideas, but I really think if your going to express your opinions you need to be educated on the subject as some of us "complainers" are.
I suggest some of you need to actually read my post.For some odd reason JC and a few others have distorted what I actually wrote.
I never proposed a 1000 CFS on the WB.
You need to look at the big picture, and negotiate from a position that there is much more water than suggested in FFMP.
Negotiating is a give and take, all I've seen over the many years is the fishery giving and NYC taking more and more.
One more thing unless you actually have a Viable Business plan on how you will achieve your goals and objectives you haven't a chance.
I would ask anyone here do you know of any plans you could show me?
JC Do you have one from FUDR that you could share with the Group?
The Business plan should include how you will fund the lobbyist we need,the research that needs to be done on the rivers, and possibly a professional team of Consultants that know how to Broker deals at high levels such as these.
How someone will get National TU on board with both feet.
One bugs are parties, I've yet to see any plan whatsoever come out of one yet.A lot talk, a lot of smoke and mirrors, but for some of the astute ones that have been around we know better.
SHOW ME THE MONEY
****The Lobbyist idea is Dennis Watson's BTW ,he could help with that part.