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The beautiful truth: Fishing at the bash

Simms

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Good Evening Ladies, Gentlemen, and Purists,

Before you is a document. The holy grail of all documents ever produced in recorded history. It is not a secret; however it is a document that will make even the strongest purist shed a tear. It will have Johnny Utah grinding his teeth and trico mike will crank out as many spey flies as he can to offset the filth he will shortly read.
 
Good Evening Ladies, Gentlemen, and Purists,

Before you is a document. The holy grail of all documents ever produced in recorded history. It is not a secret; however it is a document that will make even the strongest purist shed a tear. It will have Johnny Utah grinding his teeth and trico mike will crank out as many spey flies as he can to offset the filth he will shortly read. Then there will be some of you who sit behind your electronic fortress and smile as you fucking damn well want to employ….(wait for it) BEADSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! You will offer no response in favor or against, but you will sit there and soak in as much info as your cranium will allow. So when the chrome begin to the flood the Salmon River, I won’t be the only one that sounds like a can of buckshot walking down the river with the beads in my backpack ;)

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In all seriousness, there have been some of you who have expressed interest in learning how to “bead fish.” So I have constructed a minor write up on the methods, rigs, colors, and sizes that I PERSONALLY USE AND EMPLOY. This DOES NOT mean the way I do it or the bead colors I select are gospel. But there is absolutely no doubt about it, the way in which I bead fish is hugely successful. To be honest, the only thing that may differ between one bead whore or another is normally egg color or leader set up. For the most part, everyone abides but the same outline.
RIGGING
This is a topic in which can differ the most in terms of beads fishing. But to start, 99% of bead fishermen employ a FLOATING LINE. Bead fish is much like nymph fishing where one needs to “bounce” the beads off the bottom. Early fish will take beads anywhere in the water column, however once the sharks are gone and winter begins to set in, beads need to mimic what a natural bead does as it get dislodged from rocks and that’s bounce along the bottom.
For early season chromers, rigging is not a “technical” and as my dad would say, “doesn’t have to be a piano.” It can be sloppy or unskillfully put together. Unfortunately, early season the past few years as meant critically low flows, therefore one must take a bit more care to their setup than a normal 750cfs early season flow.

The way I fish for chromers (and trout for that matter when nymphing) is put on a FURRLED leader. I purchase them from JONI (flygoddess.com). Buy 2 get 1 free. They are incredible furled leaders and she has made me “custom” leaders in terms of thickness and material. I have her make my steelhead leaders out of fluorocarbon instead of the normal synthetic (for dries) or mono that she usually does. So with the furled leader attached to the end of my SA Sharkskin GPX (shameless plug ;)), I now have the option of adding any length tippet I want. This method also makes “re-rigging” much easier as one only needs ONE piece of tippet now, instead of stepping down like most of us used to do/currently do. As far as the tippet, I always go the length of my leader. 10’ (including length of furled) may seem a touch long, but for steelhead I only employ a 10’ or 11’, therefore turning over an indie rig is easy, plus it allows the bead(s) to be as far away as possible without possible steelhead detection of the leader/flyline.

As far as tippet material, I stand firm when I say this, and CTOBIAS (another SR regular) will 100% agree with me, is DRENNIN tippet material. Drennin is NOT cheap, it is fluorocarbon, but the shit is like rope…I use 4 or 6lb test and it has the breaking strength of 10 or 12lb RIO/Seagaur, its UNREAL. I would HIGHLY recommend this material.

As far as what lb test, early season you can get away with larger, but I think of it this way. Why not eliminate a factor out of the “why am I not hitting any steelhead” equation right off the bat? So, due to drennin being extremely tough, you will RARELY see me go over 4 or 6lb. Say what you want, but Ill put it up to your 10 or 12lb tippet any day ;) Swinging flies and HIGH/BROWN water is another story. But for the flows we’ve been experiencing the last few years, especially early season, I don’t even arry anything above 6 or 8lb test.
Another method to rig it is the way we all still fish for trout with a 9 or 12’ tapered leader or knotted leader. This method is PERFECT too, however I find the furled leader and just adding one piece of tippet much easier. Plus, the furled leader is much small in diameter than the butt section of a tapper/knotted leader, allowing it to get down to the strike zone quicker. EITHER METHOD IS FINE!

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HOOKS/WEIGHT/HOW TO RIG
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Weight. For some reason, I ALWAYS run dins more weight, no matter water depth. IDK why but I do. So if I’m putting on a 5lb piece of tippet to my furled leader, I chop off the last 18’’, retie it on using a blood not or whichever you may prefer and put my weights ABOVE the knot. This is just a simple solution to keep the weights away from the eggs and in one place. I’ll even scatter them from 18’’ all the way up to 3’ away, much like the pinner dudes ;)
I dont have a pinning set up ;) MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
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As far as the hooks, here is another operator in the equation of “why am I not hitting any steelhead.” Again, I try to eliminate this as well but using the smallest hook the season will allow. However, you’ll most see me using a size 8 or 10 straight eye heavy guage EGG HOOK (troutbeads.com makes the best egg hook). As stated earlier, hooks size and anything else depends on season/water flow. Earlier=bigger/later=smaller. BUT, like I said, I eliminate any possible of scaring any fish due to hook size and just put on a size 8 or 10. I have noticed NO difference in terms of keeping fishing buttoned vs un-buttoned.

Rigging a bead is EASY and there are many ways. However, the way I rig a bead is as follows. I run the line through the bead TWICE. AFTER you have run the line through the bead TWICE, TIE YOUR HOOK ON. Once your hook is tied on, position the bead 2’’ above the hook. After you move the bead to the 2’’ mark, insert your 80lb test or toothpick.
 
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Nice beads...but we won't ask about those Calluses on you plams...... :sperm::wanker:
 
There is still half of my post to be uploaded. Dennis is working on it now. It may be too long. THATS WHAT SHE SAID.
 
Simms, I dont care that you fish beads.Personally I like to tie anf fish flies. Speys hairwings eggs it doesn't matter. so you will not get an arguement out of me.If you want so nice hairwings let me know I will twist some up for you.
 
Thanks for the post Simms. I have yet to really give beads a real try. We'll have to meet up on the river this fall and I'll give it a try for longer than 5 minutes.


There is one thing that really interested me in your post, and honestly, answered a question I've had for a few years now. I always read how CP guys are landing these steelhead on 4lb and 6lb tippet, and now I see how if using Drennan leader/tippet material. When using any tippet material, it is all about the diameter of the line, the thinner the better and using the 2x, 3x, 4x etc measuring standard, one is able to have some form of standard. It sounds like good stuff and clearly it is strong, but their system of strength vs width is misleading in my opinion. I will however give it a try for winter fishing. Right now I use Orvis Mirage fluorocarbon for fall fishing, and when the water temps hit the low 40's, I move over to Seaguar G-Max, as I have found it to be the strongest material per diameter, or by X measurement. The Orvis Mirage doesn't hold it's strength once the temps get low, and G-Max is really pricey ($15 for 25 yards), so for the same money, I will try this Drennan and get 50 meters. But let's look at the diameter vs strength and see what the Drennan really should be rated at, as any steelhead with piss and vinegar will break 4lb tippet like it's spaghetti if it's really 4lb material.


Let's look at the Drennan diameter vs. line strength.

Using the diameter or X, measuring standards: the 4lb test is 3x tippet. The 6lb test is 1x tippet. This is pretty thick stuff and based on landing reports, appears equal to the Orvis and G-Max. Look at the charts below, first is Drennan, then Orvis, and last is G-max.

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Looking at these charts, I would say that Drennan is misleading in their "strength" capabilities and they really should double what they are saying. So when you are landing a fresh chromer or salmon on 4lb & 6lb drennan, it is really closer to 9.2lbs and 14.5lbs. For the price, I will definitely be giving this stuff a try , recognizing I am really using 9-14 pound, 1x, 2x, & 3x material. I see All Season Sports carries it and with their quick inventory turnaround, it'll be fresh stuff, so I will buy a spool of their 3lb, 4lb & 5lb material.

For fall steelhead, I usually use 2x & 3x tippet, for winter, I bump down to 4x. For salmon I use 0x-2x depending on how much pressure the fish have had and how fresh they are.

I can't wait to land a winter steelhead and say I did it using 3lb test!
 
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Thanks for the charts Eric!

Drennin really is the cat's meow!

There's still half my post to be uploaded..stay tuned!!!!
 
I totally agree, Drennen is the best. Strong, stays limp in cold conditions and has never let me down.
 
I started using drennen for the first time last winter too and had great results with their 4lb test. Going down to 4lb in low water once they've been pounded up river is a big advantage and I wasn't having a problem controlling and landing fish on it either, though the winter time does help slow the fish down a little on the fight. I like going 8lb during october when they're real fired up and then downgrade to 4-6lb once you notice fish are getting a little tougher.
 
Drennan is expensive as shiat. I do like it though. I only use Rio, and Drennan when I am in NY to get some.
 
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