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Just wanted to introduce myself guys and let you know I now live in tv but lived in Rangeley for the last 25 years of my life. Some decent fishing here in vt but I'd drive 3 hours just to land that red belly beast in the Rangeley region!!! Look forward to talking and sharing with you all.


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I'm thinking we should let Catskill Mountain Man give you the official greeting.

(he needs more greeting experience if he wants to get promoted at wal mart)
 
moosekid said:
I'm thinking we should let Catskill Mountain Man give you the official greeting.

(he needs more greeting experience if he wants to get promoted at wal mart)
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Hahaha there's always room for improvement in our careers!


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lightenup said:
Hi from NJ, I'll be in Vermont in two weeks....skiing the proper side of Mt. Mansfield....
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That's awesome. After this weekends expected storm you should be skiing a minimum of 3' of native non man made snow. I've had to temporarily give up skiing/snowmobiling because of the high work demand of my job during the winter(road foreman) but am able to take advantage of 4 10 hour day work weeks in the summer time which enable me to commit a fair amount of time to slaying the red belly beasts of western maine. Hopefully there are a few central vermont trout bums on here that can point me in the right direction down here as well. Although I live right on the wino ski and have managed to find 8"-14" browns and rainbows in front of my house. Stocked though.


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lightenup said:
Hi from NJ, I'll be in Vermont in two weeks....skiing the proper side of Mt. Mansfield....
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I just got back. Cold, but very good. When you get your skills up, give me a call, I'll show you some proposer woods skiing on the expert side of the hill.
 
rangeleyflyfisher said:
That's awesome. After this weekends expected storm you should be skiing a minimum of 3' of native non man made snow. I've had to temporarily give up skiing/snowmobiling because of the high work demand of my job during the winter(road foreman) but am able to take advantage of 4 10 hour day work weeks in the summer time which enable me to commit a fair amount of time to slaying the red belly beasts of western maine. Hopefully there are a few central vermont trout bums on here that can point me in the right direction down here as well. Although I live right on the wino ski and have managed to find 8"-14" browns and rainbows in front of my house. Stocked though.


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Where on the Winooski do you live? North or south of Montpellier? They stocked it with landlocks this year too, why I don't know, since they'll never make it past any of the dams. Plenty of wild fish also, depending on what part of the river you fish. You also don't have to go all the way to Maine to slay the red belly beasts, plenty of options there. Sure, they're not as big, but you won't see anyone on some of the streams, and the numbers make up for it. You should also invest in a canoe or boat. The smallie fishing in the local reservoirs is off the chain in the summer, as in 18-20" 5lb fish.

The he fishing can be really good up there, you just need to burn some shoe leather, the locals aren't quick to give up their spots.
 
I live 45 sec off of exit 9 just north of Montpelier in Middlesex. My family all live in Rangeley and fishing buddies as well. It's hard to find an excuse not to fish there. Plus it's where I learned to fish and I've got so many great memories and ones I can't wait to make with my boy. I will however being making a better effort to try and hook up with a local who might be willing to allow a respectable angler to tag along.


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I don't run into too many fly anglers up there, if I even run into anyone. The local shops are of little help, sometimes I get the feeling they're trying to get info out of me. Look on the map, any blue line north of 89 and rt.2 that doesn't dry out has trout, some all 3 species. Don't be afraid to bushwhack. Waterbury and Green River Reservoir have good smallmouth fishing. Closer to home are the tribs of the Winooski. If you really want to speedup the learning curve, fish with Willy who owns Catamount Fishing. Half a day with him will be money well spent. He'll hook you up with all the spots since your local.
 
rangeleyflyfisher said:
I live 45 sec off of exit 9 just north of Montpelier in Middlesex. My family all live in Rangeley and fishing buddies as well. It's hard to find an excuse not to fish there. Plus it's where I learned to fish and I've got so many great memories and ones I can't wait to make with my boy. I will however being making a better effort to try and hook up with a local who might be willing to allow a respectable angler to tag along.



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You're not too far from the TU MadDog chapter and they're a great bunch with active fishing trip schedules. I'm sure some of them will be happy to show you some spots. That area of VT got hammered during Hurricane Irene and is still nowhere near back to normal. I've never seen scouring of the streams and rivers like that storm and the insect life plummeted and the wild fish with them, but Mother Nature heals in time. I grew up fishing the Mad more than any river as we owned a ski house on the hill above that river near Waitsfield.

I can vouch for Trout Nazi's recommendation for the Waterbury Reservoir and its excellent smallie fishing. I've also managed walleye and landlocks from that reservoir.
 
Trout Nazi said:
I just got back. Cold, but very good. When you get your skills up, give me a call, I'll show you some proposer woods skiing on the expert side of the hill.
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Only legitimate Triple Black Diamond on the East coast resides on my side of the mountain.......I bet you wouldn't try it either.....it's ridiculous. Maybe in a couple feet of nice clean fresh powder....but only then....I am sure I reside on the "expert side of the hill"..:bootyshak
 
My wife and I lived in VT for a bit when we were working at Dartmouth. If you have access to a boat, canoe or kayak, try the Connecticut for smallmouth and pike. Walleye too if your adventurous. I don't know how well they've held up but I liked the White, Wells and Waits rivers, especially the upper reaches. If you don't mind a little drive there are some interesting waters up by the Quebec border; unfortunately I never got a chance to spend much time up there.

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lightenup said:
Only legitimate Triple Black Diamond on the East coast resides on my side of the mountain.......I bet you wouldn't try it either.....it's ridiculous. Maybe in a couple feet of nice clean fresh powder....but only then....I am sure I reside on the "expert side of the hill"..:bootyshak
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Sorry, but the steepest would have been Devil's Tail on what was then Glen Ellen. They never formerly opened the run, but we skied it in the 70s and very early 80s. It was cut on the right side of FIS if you look up the mountain. Scotch Mist was pretty hairy given the chair lift stantions as well, but not as steep as Devil's Tail.
 
It's not all about how steep something is. The amount of trees, rocks, consequences of a fall all come into play. I've dropped into some near vert chutes out west that had plenty of snow and runout, that looked much worse than they were. Alternatively I've been in the trees out east in situations pondering how they are gonna drag my broken ass out of the woods if I don't hit every turn on the mark. Also, it don't count unless you can ski down any of the inbounds doubles or triples with speed and rhythm. If your gonna crash, you at least need to look good before it happens.
 
lightenup said:
Here ya' go boys......
World's Scariest Ski Slopes- Page 5 - Articles | Travel + Leisure

The Black Hole...(don't get exited Simms)...53% pitch tree filled death run.....not on my tired knees:)
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I'm going to be up the same time as you. I may have to do the 42mile drive around to Smuggs just to drag your ass down Black Hole. If my knees can do it, so can yours.

Corbetts is every bit as scary as SS, the drop-in is bigger. Worst part about both is that you can't see shit after you land because of the all the snow in your face. You're on an insane pitch with rocks and you can't see for a good 20ft till things clear. Done with that stuff these days. Great Scott is very doable. Ironically, me and some other dude from Jersey that I randomly ran into at the top were the only ones doing those chutes all morning. Jersey was represent'in in the house that day. I ran into another dude all the way at the bottom who lost his ski and his boot. He was ill'n the rest of the way down.

And Goat is steep, but Starr is steeper and less forgiving, and always icy. You need to be on first chair to enjoy those glades because they get skiied out fast.
 
Trout Nazi said:
I'm going to be up the same time as you. I may have to do the 42mile drive around to Smuggs just to drag your ass down Black Hole. If my knees can do it, so can yours.

Corbetts is every bit as scary as SS, the drop-in is bigger. Worst part about both is that you can't see shit after you land because of the all the snow in your face. You're on an insane pitch with rocks and you can't see for a good 20ft till things clear. Done with that stuff these days. Great Scott is very doable. Ironically, me and some other dude from Jersey that I randomly ran into at the top were the only ones doing those chutes all morning. Jersey was represent'in in the house that day. I ran into another dude all the way at the bottom who lost his ski and his boot. He was ill'n the rest of the way down.

And Goat is steep, but Starr is steeper and less forgiving, and always icy. You need to be on first chair to enjoy those glades because they get skiied out fast.
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How does one loose a ski boot whilst skiing? Was his foot still attached......Also the only way I may even consider braving black hole, or even upper Madonna lift line is fi two feet of powder falls over night.....If you do come over, I'll be the one with the awesome form...
 
lightenup said:
How does one loose a ski boot whilst skiing? Was his foot still attached......Also the only way I may even consider braving black hole, or even upper Madonna lift line is fi two feet of powder falls over night.....If you do come over, I'll be the one with the awesome form...
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I think he was a beginner that got in way, way over his head. Otherwise, I don't know how it happens. My RS 130's are welded to my feet. I need to let them warm up before I can put them on or off. My feet are very happy when they come off.

The secret to skiing all of those steep and extreme spots is fresh powder,a couple of feet of it. Otherwise its suicide. No one drops into those chutes once they're skiied out, and I'm done with the trees on Mansfield by 10am. All you need is a couple of beginner snow boarders who've watched too many Travis Rice videos to slide through sideways and ruin everything.
 
I skied both Smuggs and Stowe over New Years. Both awesome mountains but the fast lifts and Stowe justified the extra cost (stowe was 90 while I paid 55 to ski Smuggs). I got the bug pretty bad with skiing this year. I've only been at it for the past few years but I've finally turned the corner. Just booked my flight to vail for late February!
 
emoussa said:
I skied both Smuggs and Stowe over New Years. Both awesome mountains but the fast lifts and Stowe justified the extra cost (stowe was 90 while I paid 55 to ski Smuggs). I got the bug pretty bad with skiing this year. I've only been at it for the past few years but I've finally turned the corner. Just booked my flight to vail for late February!
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Its $80 if you use your Evolution card. Still way too much in my opinion, I don't like what they're trying to do to the mountain. Upside is they can't touch Mansfield or their old-school lodge since its a historical site. If your really intrepid, you can ski to Smuggs off the backside of Big Spruce, and buy a one-time ticket at Smuggs to go back. A couple of hairy spots to hike through though. And brook trout in Sterling pond btw. Have fun in Vail, you should hit it just right. Next year try Snowbird, the powder is second to none.
 
Trout Nazi said:
Its $80 if you use your Evolution card. Still way too much in my opinion, I don't like what they're trying to do to the mountain. Upside is they can't touch Mansfield or their old-school lodge since its a historical site. If your really intrepid, you can ski to Smuggs off the backside of Big Spruce, and buy a one-time ticket at Smuggs to go back. A couple of hairy spots to hike through though. And brook trout in Sterling pond btw. Have fun in Vail, you should hit it just right. Next year try Snowbird, the powder is second to none.
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The addiction I've developed is real. I only started during my senior year at college about 4 years ago but I'm at the point where I'm bombing down diamonds now. Last time I went I noticed my skis and knees stay together and I dont skid while turning anymore. I can actually use the ski to do alot of the work and consequently can ski long consecutive days. I really want to get good at varied terrain, bumps and trees. Can't wait for Vail.
 
madison said:
LU,
The Rumor at Gore has a 70 degree drop along it's headwall.
Thats some steep shit!
Mads
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That's for climbing!!:)

I'm over my days of trying to ski things I shouldn't......I love a groomed cruiser, or deep steep open powder....I can do without the trees and bumps these days.....
I guess you could say I'm getting old, fat and lazy......

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Moosa, like the slower lifts.....it's a classic vibe, brings me back to my younger days learning to ski, now I like it because I have time to recover my sore, tired, outta shape ass, before the next run.....
 
Rusty Spinner said:
You're not too far from the TU MadDog chapter and they're a great bunch with active fishing trip schedules. I'm sure some of them will be happy to show you some spots. That area of VT got hammered during Hurricane Irene and is still nowhere near back to normal. I've never seen scouring of the streams and rivers like that storm and the insect life plummeted and the wild fish with them, but Mother Nature heals in time. I grew up fishing the Mad more than any river as we owned a ski house on the hill above that river near Waitsfield.

I can vouch for Trout Nazi's recommendation for the Waterbury Reservoir and its excellent smallie fishing. I've also managed walleye and landlocks from that reservoir.
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Our area got hit pretty bad during Irene. Not as bad as some places but it makes you take a small stream for granted. You wake up, turn on the news and see heli videos of a cemetery that has been reorganized. Old caskets and tomb stones everywhere on stream banks like river rocks lining the edges. Vermont is tough because of the amount of silt in the stream banks. I'm used to Rangeley where the water is crystal clear even 12 hours after a rain storm. Just different geography is all. But I can't wait to get out on these waters. There's some intense rapids just half mile down stream from my ?house that I see vehicles at all the time. All fly anglers. Gotta hold some dandys.


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If your talking about that section along Rt.2, I fish down in there. Anywhere below the dam is pretty good.
 
Are you talking the damn in Waterbury? I live just below the inlet of the mad river. I've got easy access to both sides of it via a dirt road on one side I can ride my sxs to and the other is the property my volunteer FD I'm in is located. I've seen people wading up and down my whole stretch in the back yard I've just got to make it out there to see what the scoop is. What did you seem to have luck with trout nazi. The couple times I've fished a couple hours before dark the browns would destroy any brown colored dry fly. Didn't seem to matter the make or model. If it was a rusty color it was evening snack to them. I've got no experience nyphing these waters but probably just like Rangeley is going to be my best bet at monster fish. Although selfishness to fish dries has landed me some notable 3lbs Brooke's and over 20" salmon in Rangeley. But those were rare cases.


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rangeleyflyfisher said:
Are you talking the damn in Waterbury? I live just below the inlet of the mad river. I've got easy access to both sides of it via a dirt road on one side I can ride my sxs to and the other is the property my volunteer FD I'm in is located. I've seen people wading up and down my whole stretch in the back yard I've just got to make it out there to see what the scoop is. What did you seem to have luck with trout nazi. The couple times I've fished a couple hours before dark the browns would destroy any brown colored dry fly. Didn't seem to matter the make or model. If it was a rusty color it was evening snack to them. I've got no experience nyphing these waters but probably just like Rangeley is going to be my best bet at monster fish. Although selfishness to fish dries has landed me some notable 3lbs Brooke's and over 20" salmon in Rangeley. But those were rare cases.


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No, the dam downstream from you I think, another in Waterbury, another by Bolton. There are 17 fucking dams on that river. If that river didn't have so many dams, it would be world class, and have an actual salmon run out of Champlain. Waterbury is a whole different story, that area is the Trophy Trout section, otherwise known as the Petting Zoo. This is where most of the stocking occurs, and most of the creel and stringer guys go to. You live in a very good location. Just fish any of he riffs between you and Waterbury. There are a few very deep holes where the big boys live, however they do venture out into the riffs. That is a very big stonefly and caddis river, you'll see all the shucks on the rocks come May, thats your ticket.

There is a ton of fishing in your location. Look at the map, head a little north, thats all you need to do. If you want landlocks, drive an hour to the Kingdom.
 
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